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Re: 'God created Israel', 'holocaust' is a fanatical religion

Postby hermod » 4 months 1 week ago (Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:03 am)

Possible to have a few Holocaust-related quotes from this book?


"But, however the world pretends to divide itself, there are ony two divisions in the world to-day - human beings and Germans. – Rudyard Kipling, The Morning Post (London), June 22, 1915

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Re: 'God created Israel', 'holocaust' is a fanatical religion

Postby Hektor » 4 months 1 week ago (Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:49 am)

Dresden wrote:"The book, called “Being a Citizen in Israel,” makes repeated mentions to God as being behind the founding of Israel in 1948, and cites Bible passages as justification"

It's true.....G-d really did create Israel in 1948.....it's all right there in the Scofield Bible.

Actually, he uses a Bible commentary by a man called Cyrus Ingerson Scofield, and he appears to have been a proponent of Zionism and pre-tribulation rapture dogma. It's an important tenet for why certain Churches are now pro-Jewish, pro-Zionist and don't even care about the obvious hostility Jews display to Christianity.


Dresden wrote:"The book openly defends Israel’s status as a “Jewish nation state,” cheering the nation’s ethno-cultural nationalism as wholly appropriate....."

Only Jews can have a Nation of their own.....not the White Goyim.

Racism is bad.....unless you're a supremacist Jew.

"All animals are equal.....but some animals are more equal than others" - George Orwell

".....centers primarily on the Druze, insisting that they are loyal to the state and don’t identify as Arabs"

So, what do they "identify" as.....non-persons?

"Officials defended the book’s contents, insisting that several Arab editors had reviewed and approved its contents"

What were the names of these "several Arab editors"?.....We'll never know.

Insanity is the right word for this nonsense.


Special pleading and playing a deception game.

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Re: 'God created Israel', 'holocaust' is a fanatical religion

Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 4 months 1 week ago (Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:14 am)

Hi IHaveNoName,

Welcome to the forum, and in reading this thread I'm impressed with your gracious answers to the questions asked of you. I hope this forum provides a resource for you in your personal search for the truth.

Interesting the hear that the gas chambers weren't a major part of holocaust education growing up, and that parallels Raul Hilberg's 3 volume "The Destruction Of The European Jews" where in all those pages, the gas chambers get a whole single page pretty much (that involves a Red Cross van driving up with the Zyklon B if memory serves, with implication that it was a disguised vehicle.) The gas chambers are something so horrifying that there is the implication but not the discussion. Until Jean Claude Pressac came along in the early 1990's to address that.

But even knowing more the reality of what the holocaust is, will effect how you see art. For instance in that movie Hashmatsa (Defamation) by Yoav Shamir there is a scene of Israeli kids visiting Auschwitz. And if you know what I know, that the gas chambers are a myth, one then views that scene differently, seeing more that these kids are having this emotional trip put on them, which is going to make the kids the kind of people the State wants them to be.

Anyway good luck in this transgressive intellectual adventure, and welcome.

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Re: 'God created Israel', 'holocaust' is a fanatical religion

Postby Spect3r » 4 months 1 week ago (Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:49 am)

Honestly cant see whats surprising about this.
Plenty of Zionists believe they have right to Israel because... (wait for it) they are God chosen people and that is their Promised Land!!!

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Re: 'God created Israel', 'holocaust' is a fanatical religion

Postby borjastick » 4 months 1 week ago (Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:58 am)

Spect3r wrote:Honestly cant see whats surprising about this.
Plenty of Zionists believe they have right to Israel because... (wait for it) they are God chosen people and that is their Promised Land!!!


Their God not mine and not the God of most of the world's population, so where does that leave their position?
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'

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Re: 'God created Israel', 'holocaust' is a fanatical religion

Postby Spect3r » 4 months 1 week ago (Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:18 am)

borjastick wrote:
Spect3r wrote:Honestly cant see whats surprising about this.
Plenty of Zionists believe they have right to Israel because... (wait for it) they are God chosen people and that is their Promised Land!!!


Their God not mine and not the God of most of the world's population, so where does that leave their position?


Looking at it through their eyes i would say it leaves them in a pretty good position... they got their country and all. Looking from the rest of the World it leaves us in a very worrying position.

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Re: 'God created Israel', 'holocaust' is a fanatical religion

Postby borjastick » 4 months 1 week ago (Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:01 am)

Spect3r wrote:
borjastick wrote:
Spect3r wrote:Honestly cant see whats surprising about this.
Plenty of Zionists believe they have right to Israel because... (wait for it) they are God chosen people and that is their Promised Land!!!


Their God not mine and not the God of most of the world's population, so where does that leave their position?


Looking at it through their eyes i would say it leaves them in a pretty good position... they got their country and all. Looking from the rest of the World it leaves us in a very worrying position.


Maybe but it's all smoke and mirrors. It's based on the holocaust being real, and not just in their minds, and it's not. The problem for israel and jews around the world is that the holocaust cloak of sympathy and respect is slipping off and as such they are very exposed to the feelings of people towards them and their lies once it slips permanently. And it will.

You say it's worrying for the rest of us. I see it as revealing and quite funny. Jews have no OFF button and never understand when to shut up and sit quietly in the corner. They scream and shout and desire victim hood more than anything else it seems. They also implode regularly throughout history and that seems certain to continue. Their only recourse at the moment seems to be to fight hard through the media and interweb to clamp down on freedom of speech and investigation. They want lies and deception to be on the menu forever to protect their deceit of massive proportions regarding the holocaust. Yetserday's misspeak by Sean Spicer was anything but, rather it was an encouraging sign yet again that The Donald doesn't buy the holohoax lies. As I say, all very funny.
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'

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Re: 'God created Israel', 'holocaust' is a fanatical religion

Postby Spect3r » 4 months 1 week ago (Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:50 am)

borjastick wrote:
Spect3r wrote:
borjastick wrote:
Their God not mine and not the God of most of the world's population, so where does that leave their position?


Looking at it through their eyes i would say it leaves them in a pretty good position... they got their country and all. Looking from the rest of the World it leaves us in a very worrying position.


Maybe but it's all smoke and mirrors. It's based on the holocaust being real, and not just in their minds, and it's not. The problem for israel and jews around the world is that the holocaust cloak of sympathy and respect is slipping off and as such they are very exposed to the feelings of people towards them and their lies once it slips permanently. And it will.

You say it's worrying for the rest of us. I see it as revealing and quite funny. Jews have no OFF button and never understand when to shut up and sit quietly in the corner. They scream and shout and desire victim hood more than anything else it seems. They also implode regularly throughout history and that seems certain to continue. Their only recourse at the moment seems to be to fight hard through the media and interweb to clamp down on freedom of speech and investigation. They want lies and deception to be on the menu forever to protect their deceit of massive proportions regarding the holocaust. Yetserday's misspeak by Sean Spicer was anything but, rather it was an encouraging sign yet again that The Donald doesn't buy the holohoax lies. As I say, all very funny.


What i mean with worrying position is kinda the same idea as when George W. Bush said "God told me in a dream to attack Iraq" or something along this lines.
Is very dangerous when people in power has this kind of delusions.

Now regarding the subject you specifically touched... Granted that Israel does not gather as many sympathy as before but i really dont think it has anything to do with the Holocaust story but more due mainly to their politics regarding Palestine.

The Sean Spicer thing was pretty interesting thou ( i made a thread about it) and perhaps Trump doesnt go with the Holocaust story i honestly dont know.

And the Media control (by many fronts not just them) is tighter than ever before.
You now have a war on "fake news" and very soon you can kiss goodbye to Net Neutrality what will be a major blow to websites like this.
It may be their only recourse but is a pretty strong one and that is largely endorsed by other very powerful interests.

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Re: 'God created Israel', 'holocaust' is a fanatical religion

Postby Lysander_Spooner » 4 months 1 week ago (Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:05 am)

borjastick wrote:
Spect3r wrote:Honestly cant see whats surprising about this.
Plenty of Zionists believe they have right to Israel because... (wait for it) they are God chosen people and that is their Promised Land!!!


Their God not mine and not the God of most of the world's population, so where does that leave their position?


If you study rabbinic judaism you find out it is actually Satanic. Rabbis maintain that if jews give Satan proper attention, Satan won't mess with jews. Rabbinic judaism is jewish self-worship also. What is at the heart of what these people believe is very bizarre.

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Re: 'God created Israel', 'holocaust' is a fanatical religion

Postby Review » 4 months 4 days ago (Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:09 pm)

IHaveNoName wrote:
Review wrote:
IHaveNoName wrote:..I have heard of this book much lately, especially inside of Israel itself, a lot of controversy around it, a lot of debate, a lot of criticism not just about the book, but about the Minister of Education himself, Naftali Bennett.-


That's the minister who bragged about killing arabs, if I remember correctly. The only democracy in the middle east, and all..

Read above.


To Steve, Druze identify themselves as Druze, and are loyal to the country they live in, there's a whole unit in the army dedicated to Druze and they help Israel very much. There are definitely Arabs that identify with Israel and do so proudly, especially in the center of the country where people are much more open minded and accepting (from both sides).


I read they were not too happy when Israel was treating AlQaida fighters from Syria...

http://syrianperspective.com/2015/06/lo ... lance.html

Haven't heard about him bragging about killing Arabs, care to provide some evidence? ]
I didn't really understand what the article was talking about, too much cynicism to comprehend :)


It wouldve taken you one short startpage (or whatever engine) search to find the quote where he brags about how many arabs he killed in his life. Of course, it was quoted totally out-of-context :angel4:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e35719.htm


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