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Holocaust Victims: A Statistical Analysis

Postby borjastick » 3 months 1 week ago (Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:34 am)

Holocaust Victims: A Statistical Analysis
W. Benz and W. N. Sanning – A Comparison
By Germar Rudolf

The above is a codoh essay/analysis available here http://codoh.com/library/document/930/?lang=en

I came across it just a few days ago when Hannover mentioned it in one of his posts. What with work and visitors I have only just had the chance to finish it. It's a significant piece of work both in its volume and content but I strongly urge those who have not tackled it to do so.

In essence it looks at the data and books by Benz and Sanning about the death tolls in the holocaust and the jewish content within those. Benz sings the jewish song and was funded by them to arrive at the figure that we all know and love. Sanning, it seems to me, used far more sources of data and perhaps considerably more brain power to arrive at a greatly reduced figure.

This is a fascinating read. I never cease to be amazed at what an attractive subject the holocaust is and how I can still learn so much.

I mean I have never doubted that the jews of Hungary were targeted and nearly all removed. What happened to them is then up for discussion, but removed they certainly were. Well not so fast Meester Borja Steek, Sanning found out that perhaps as many as 300,000 Hungarian jews were still there after the war!! Did you know that?

Sanning cites that some 300,000 Jews were left after the war in Central (Trianon) Hungary alone. He bases his claim on, first, the US War Refugee Board’s Final Summary Report, which states that more than 200,000 Jews from Budapest were exempted from deportations following negotiations with the SS (S143). Second, in its aforementioned report the International Red Cross stated that some 100,000 Jews poured into Budapest from the provinces.[48] Furthermore, 200,000 Jews had been counted in Trianon Hungary in 1946, while according to Reitlinger one can assume that by then a veritable mass exodus of Jews to the West had begun (S143). One must also consider, he says, that no doubt a great many foreign, mostly Polish Jews were included in this migration. Sanning thus cites 200,000 as the minimum number of Jews present in post-war Trianon Hungary. For Benz, the number of survivors derives almost exclusively from the number of Jews present before the war, minus the decreases estimated as above, minus the actual or supposed deportations to concentration camps, i.e., (according to Nuremberg documents) to forced labor camps. Absolutely no other sources are used.

This excellent essay will take some time to read but rewards fabulously those who bother

'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'

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Re: Holocaust Victims: A Statistical Analysis

Postby Lothario » 1 month 1 week ago (Mon May 15, 2017 6:56 am)

The most astonishing part for me was paragraph 6.2. There it is stated that Korherr’s conclusions contradict his own data and that Challen concludes that Korherr, acting on Himmler’s orders, “reduced the emigration statistics by one million and increased the number of Jews evacuated to the East by that same million.”

Looks like we ‘found’ one million of the missing jews that were sent throught the Reinhardt camps.
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Re: Holocaust Victims: A Statistical Analysis

Postby Kingfisher » 1 month 1 week ago (Tue May 16, 2017 11:15 am)

borjastick wrote:Sanning found out that perhaps as many as 300,000 Hungarian Jews were still there after the war!! Did you know that?

According to the World Jewish Congress, Hungary today has 35,000-120,000 Jews, a pretty broad estimate. This is despite an intermarriage rate of 60%, which must have considerably eroded the figures since 1945. I presume the 1956 exodus would have included a lot of Jews as they were targeted in the uprising because of the number of Jews in the post-war Soviet-imposed government, and especially in the secret police, as documented by David Irving. in addition to the numbers that must have left for the West or Israel at one time or another over the years.

Budapest still has the biggest Jewish community in Europe outside Paris and the second biggest synagogue in the world. Add to that assimilation with name changes (no need to adopt Christianity, Hungary was officially atheist under the Communists) and Sanning's figure begins to look quite tenable.

Most of the Jews in Poland in 1956 have since left, with one big exodus in 1967. Why would Hungary be different?

EDT: - http://www.budapest.com/city_guide/culture/jewish_budapest.en.html gives 110,000 for Budapest alone.

- The waters are muddied a little by the reference to Trianon Hungary, today's borders as set in 1919, but these borders were much wider during WW2 and the figures quoted for deportations cover the wider area. (Everone's favourite novelist, Elie Wiesel, came from Sziget, now in Romania.)

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