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DId a White House Spokesman 'deny the Holocaust'?

Postby Spect3r » 4 months 1 week ago (Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:30 am)

Yesterday during a press conference related to the latest attacks in Syria, Sean Spicer a White House spokesman said the follow:

"We didn't use chemical weapons in World War II. You know ... someone as despicable as Hitler, who didn't even sink to using chemical weapons,"
http://www.dw.com/en/white-house-spokes ... a-38391887

Is he actually denying the Holocaust?



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Re: DId a White House Spokesman 'deny the Holocaust'?

Postby Lysander_Spooner » 4 months 1 week ago (Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:57 am)

Could be. People who have access to lots of information can easily determine that the Big H never happened. I doubt that Trump believes it.

There is this underlying animosity between Trump's camp and the jews, despite Trump having a jewish son-in-law. Spicer might have been having some fun. I understand he has walked back this comment by now. He said something our little masters didn't like.

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Re: DId a White House Spokesman 'deny the Holocaust'?

Postby Depth Charge » 4 months 1 week ago (Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:46 am)

I think it's clear he wasn't denying the 'holocaust', or even shooting out some innuendo. He's merely referring to the fact that Hitler didn't use chemical weapons, which is true. I don't rate Spicer as a speaker or apparent intellectual rebel, he gets flustered a lot and comes across like a high school president.

Instead, the Jewish/Masonic cabal is simply asserting their power by seeing an opportunity to have some of their lackeys grovel. Outrage is a Yiddish/holocaust currency, remember that. We can also now more or less safely ignore the idea that Team Trump is some backdoor nationalist/patriot crew.

The hypocrisy is multi-tiered. First, the only country to use WMD in WW2 was America, against a foe that had offered peace overtures six months prior. So not only did they use WMD, they used them needlessly, twice, while having the added gall of accusing someone else of using them when they didn't, going to far as to doctor photographs.

Second, America accuses Syria of using WMD, lying and crying foul about the child victims. This is the same America facilitating child genocide Yemen.

There is also the growing question of why rumors of America using some type of refined uranium explosive are not going away, first in April 2003 then again in 2004: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/10/11 ... -prove-it/

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Re: DId a White House Spokesman 'deny the Holocaust'?

Postby Spect3r » 4 months 1 week ago (Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:51 am)

Depth Charge wrote:I think it's clear he wasn't denying the 'holocaust', or even shooting out some innuendo. He's merely referring to the fact that Hitler didn't use chemical weapons, which is true.


So in what category of weapons is Zyklon B included?

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Re: DId a White House Spokesman 'deny the Holocaust'?

Postby Depth Charge » 4 months 1 week ago (Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:19 am)

Spect3r wrote:
Depth Charge wrote:I think it's clear he wasn't denying the 'holocaust', or even shooting out some innuendo. He's merely referring to the fact that Hitler didn't use chemical weapons, which is true.


So in what category of weapons is Zyklon B included?


From the hoaxer's perspective, Zyklon B is ammunition and gas chambers were the murder weapons. Obviously, Spicer was talking about tactical use in the field, but in this instance the uproar is enough to conflate the two for the idiot masses.

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Re: DId a White House Spokesman 'deny the Holocaust'?

Postby Spect3r » 4 months 6 days ago (Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:22 am)

Depth Charge wrote:
Spect3r wrote:
Depth Charge wrote:I think it's clear he wasn't denying the 'holocaust', or even shooting out some innuendo. He's merely referring to the fact that Hitler didn't use chemical weapons, which is true.


So in what category of weapons is Zyklon B included?


From the hoaxer's perspective, Zyklon B is ammunition and gas chambers were the murder weapons. Obviously, Spicer was talking about tactical use in the field, but in this instance the uproar is enough to conflate the two for the idiot masses.


His wording is actually pretty open to debate as he said "in his own people" and unless there was a civil war going around in the 3rd Reich that i am not aware of, I can not see how he could be referring to Hitler using chemical weapons outside the supposedly Extermination Camps

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Re: DId a White House Spokesman 'deny the Holocaust'?

Postby Review » 4 months 6 days ago (Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:54 am)

Spect3r wrote:
Depth Charge wrote:I think it's clear he wasn't denying the 'holocaust', or even shooting out some innuendo. He's merely referring to the fact that Hitler didn't use chemical weapons, which is true.


So in what category of weapons is Zyklon B included?


Pesticide, invented by a german jew ? (Specifically, I remember reading that he supervised the researchers who developed Zyklon-B, based on Zyklon-A)

Fritz Haber: Jewish chemist whose work led to Zyklon B
bbc.com/news/world-13015210
skepticism.org/timeline/december-history/10523-birth-fritz-haber-jewish-inventor-zyklon-poison-gas.html

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Re: DId a White House Spokesman 'deny the Holocaust'?

Postby Hektor » 4 months 5 days ago (Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:25 pm)

Depth Charge wrote:
Spect3r wrote:
Depth Charge wrote:I think it's clear he wasn't denying the 'holocaust', or even shooting out some innuendo. He's merely referring to the fact that Hitler didn't use chemical weapons, which is true.


So in what category of weapons is Zyklon B included?


From the hoaxer's perspective, Zyklon B is ammunition and gas chambers were the murder weapons. Obviously, Spicer was talking about tactical use in the field, but in this instance the uproar is enough to conflate the two for the idiot masses.


Yes just like they'd conflate delousing gassing with homicidal gassing, vermin with jews, cremation with gassing, etc.

I'd say he had chemical weapons use in mind (against civilians). The hypothetical gas chambers to kill people would be "chemical slaughterhouses" at best. Many otherwise educated people and of course a lot of idiots do believe in those.

Someone poking fun at the Spicer remarks:



Sean Spicer Defends Himself: “Gas Chambers Were Such A Minute Part Of World War II”

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer asserted on Tuesday that Adolf Hitler had never used “chemical weapons.” During Tuesday’s White House press conference about Russia’s support of Syria, Spicer was asked why the White House expected Russian President Vladimir Putin to drop support for Syrian president Bashar al-Assad. “Someone as despicable as Hitler didn’t even sink to using chemical weapons,” Spicer said. “You have to ask yourself if you are Russia, is that a country and a regime you want to align yourself with?” Later in the briefing, Spicer was given a chance to correct the record about Hitler’s use of deadly gas on Jews in concentration camps. “He was not using his gas on his own people the same way Assad was,” the press secretary explained.

“And to put that into perspective,” Spicer continued, “we’re talking here about the single greatest and most feared mass murderer of the 20th century by far. As a matter of fact, if you were to open a dictionary and look up under ‘monster’ and ‘psychopath,’ you’d find a picture of Adolf Hitler right up there alongside Hannibal Lector. And in case you’re wondering – yes, I’m well aware of the fact that Hannibal Lector is a fictional movie character, but I’m sure you’ll understand that he’s the only one scary and morbid enough I could think of to make the reference. And even then, I mean, come on people, compared to what Adolf Hitler did, Lector is like a ballerina.”


However, since the criticism from everyone present at the conference wasn’t showing any signs of dying down whatsoever, the press secretary went on the defensive. “By the way, I really don’t understand why everybody’s getting so upset about the gas chamber reference, I was only trying to make a point,” he said. “I mean, I was talking about a historical fact – a terrible and despicable one, but something that’s historically accurate regardless. What’s more, compared to all the other methods the Nazis devised to torture and execute Jews during the war, the gas chambers were such a minute part. There’s really no reason to react in such a way. It’s not like I told a lie, I just used history as a means to make a point.”

“But, make no mistake – Assad is worse than Adolf Hitler in that regard,” Spicer argued. “Assad had the guts to use much more severe chemical weapons on his own people, he couldn’t care less about the fact that those were his own countrymen. At least Adolf Hitler had the decency and common sense to target only Jews and make sure no Nazi ever saw the inside of a gas chamber. I’m not going to go so far as to say that Adolf Hitler was a man of principles or integrity, but at least the guy knew what he was going for and how to get it. At the end of the day, the fact that he used gas speaks of his practicality more than it does of his cruelty. Similarly, if Assad had used his chemical weapon against the rebels, we’d be having a different conversation altogether right about now. But, that’s not the case.”

“World War II lasted for almost 6 full years and during that time, countless atrocities were committed by the Nazis. However, the one thing they never did was target their own race. President Assad, however, did. Whether or not that makes him equal or worse than Hitler is not up for debate. In other words, the point here is not what was done, but rather, whom it was done to. And if you look at things that way, it’s pretty obvious that it’s high time for a change. Dictionaries need to remove pictures of Lector and Hitler and put a picture of Assad under ‘psychopath.’ I guess that each century does, indeed, have both its heroes and monsters,” Spicer concluded.
http://politicalo.com/sean-spicer-defen ... ld-war-ii/


It should be noted that Hitler had chemical weapons at his disposal but refrained from using them. Obviously he had some restraints there, since they could have tipped the war in favor of Germany.

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Re: DId a White House Spokesman 'deny the Holocaust'?

Postby Spect3r » 4 months 5 days ago (Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:57 pm)

Just to make things clear i am not saying there was gas chambers in Auschwitz.

Hektor wrote:
Sean Spicer Defends Himself: “Gas Chambers Were Such A Minute Part Of World War II”

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer asserted on Tuesday that Adolf Hitler had never used “chemical weapons.” During Tuesday’s White House press conference about Russia’s support of Syria, Spicer was asked why the White House expected Russian President Vladimir Putin to drop support for Syrian president Bashar al-Assad. “Someone as despicable as Hitler didn’t even sink to using chemical weapons,” Spicer said. “You have to ask yourself if you are Russia, is that a country and a regime you want to align yourself with?” Later in the briefing, Spicer was given a chance to correct the record about Hitler’s use of deadly gas on Jews in concentration camps. “He was not using his gas on his own people the same way Assad was,” the press secretary explained.

“And to put that into perspective,” Spicer continued, “we’re talking here about the single greatest and most feared mass murderer of the 20th century by far. As a matter of fact, if you were to open a dictionary and look up under ‘monster’ and ‘psychopath,’ you’d find a picture of Adolf Hitler right up there alongside Hannibal Lector. And in case you’re wondering – yes, I’m well aware of the fact that Hannibal Lector is a fictional movie character, but I’m sure you’ll understand that he’s the only one scary and morbid enough I could think of to make the reference. And even then, I mean, come on people, compared to what Adolf Hitler did, Lector is like a ballerina.”


However, since the criticism from everyone present at the conference wasn’t showing any signs of dying down whatsoever, the press secretary went on the defensive. “By the way, I really don’t understand why everybody’s getting so upset about the gas chamber reference, I was only trying to make a point,” he said. “I mean, I was talking about a historical fact – a terrible and despicable one, but something that’s historically accurate regardless. What’s more, compared to all the other methods the Nazis devised to torture and execute Jews during the war, the gas chambers were such a minute part. There’s really no reason to react in such a way. It’s not like I told a lie, I just used history as a means to make a point.”

“But, make no mistake – Assad is worse than Adolf Hitler in that regard,” Spicer argued. “Assad had the guts to use much more severe chemical weapons on his own people, he couldn’t care less about the fact that those were his own countrymen. At least Adolf Hitler had the decency and common sense to target only Jews and make sure no Nazi ever saw the inside of a gas chamber. I’m not going to go so far as to say that Adolf Hitler was a man of principles or integrity, but at least the guy knew what he was going for and how to get it. At the end of the day, the fact that he used gas speaks of his practicality more than it does of his cruelty. Similarly, if Assad had used his chemical weapon against the rebels, we’d be having a different conversation altogether right about now. But, that’s not the case.”

“World War II lasted for almost 6 full years and during that time, countless atrocities were committed by the Nazis. However, the one thing they never did was target their own race. President Assad, however, did. Whether or not that makes him equal or worse than Hitler is not up for debate. In other words, the point here is not what was done, but rather, whom it was done to. And if you look at things that way, it’s pretty obvious that it’s high time for a change. Dictionaries need to remove pictures of Lector and Hitler and put a picture of Assad under ‘psychopath.’ I guess that each century does, indeed, have both its heroes and monsters,” Spicer concluded.
http://politicalo.com/sean-spicer-defen ... ld-war-ii/


It should be noted that Hitler had chemical weapons at his disposal but refrained from using them. Obviously he had some restraints there, since they could have tipped the war in favor of Germany.


Interesting reading.


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