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Request: Evidence about Leviticus 25:10 and 6,000,000

Postby SwiFT » 1 week 4 days ago (Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:32 pm)

Hello, I'm someone that is new to studying Holocaust revisionism. I've searched through a lot of threads on this forum (great resource) but I can't find any clear cut evidence that Jews in the 19th century believed this Kabbalah-esque interpretation of Leviticus 25:10 that demands a 6,000,000 sacrifice. I've read many resources talking about this subject, but I can't find any writings that make it clear that this is what Jews believed in the 19th century, and that the number didn't just come from a mainstream estimate of the amount of Jews in Central or Eastern Europe. Obviously this number was entered into Jewish group consciousness before even World War I, but it seems possible to me that meme of six million could have simply been a longtime estimate to the amount of Jews in Europe. A number passed around without correct in the days before the internet. Any help would be appreciated.



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Re: Request: Evidence about Leviticus 25:10 and 6,000,000

Postby borjastick » 1 week 4 days ago (Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:16 am)

SwiFT I've just read Leviticus 25-10 and see no reference about 6,000,000. Perhaps I've misunderstood your comment.

However, biblical reference to 6,000,000 or not, the fact remains that from the late 19th century zionist proponents were obsessed with the six million jews in peril routine, pushing it at anyone they could and insisting this was a real danger from various 'enemies' as and when desired.

Jump forward to the holocaust and the obsession continued with everyone to this day expected to believe the figure. It's a nonsense figure that cannot be and has not been supported by any facts.
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'

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Re: Request: Evidence about Leviticus 25:10 and 6,000,000

Postby SwiFT » 1 week 4 days ago (Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:48 am)

This scan is from The Holocaust Dogma of Judaism by Ben Weintraub, but I've seen reference to in many places, including in other posts on this forum.

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Re: Request: Evidence about Leviticus 25:10 and 6,000,000

Postby Hannover » 1 week 4 days ago (Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:25 am)

Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869.

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http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times- ... e-1869.php

Welcome, Hannover

The '6,000,000 Jews' lie and the laughing Mexican:

If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: Request: Evidence about Leviticus 25:10 and 6,000,000

Postby borjastick » 1 week 4 days ago (Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:59 am)

In fact a quick look at this web site http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Jews/Je ... umber.html gives some more meat to the whole subject of the 6m. Furthermore Birdman, whoever he is, makes it clear that the 6m could have been any amount beginning with a six as the translation is somewhat unclear, as mentioned above.

He then concludes that the holocaust was of course invented around the 6m figure so as to bring forward the zionist dream of a homeland for the jews.

Even if the original text in the Torah was correct that 6m had to die, that was so far off in the future as to be incomprehensible at the time of writing. So it would seem that once the jews had bred enough to have way more than 6m on the planet, they could organise the 'holocaust' to rid themselves of the required 6m to facilitate the return to Palestine.
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'

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Re: Request: Evidence about Leviticus 25:10 and 6,000,000

Postby gandalfssocks » 1 week 4 days ago (Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:43 am)

Germany’s economy was in a mess when Hitler was elected Chancellor in January 1933. Unemployment peaked at 6 million during the final days of the Weimar Republic – near enough 33% of the nation’s working population.

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Re: Request: Evidence about Leviticus 25:10 and 6,000,000

Postby Sannhet » 1 week 4 days ago (Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:03 am)


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Re: Request: Evidence about Leviticus 25:10 and 6,000,000

Postby Hektor » 1 week 4 days ago (Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:12 am)

SwiFT wrote:This scan is from The Holocaust Dogma of Judaism by Ben Weintraub, but I've seen reference to in many places, including in other posts on this forum.

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This is the verse in question:
And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family.
http://biblehub.com/kjv/leviticus/25-10.htm


The only figure I can see there in the English is 50 I think that is the year following 7 Sabbath years, which is each 7th year were debts are canceled and economic activity is put to a rest.

The 6 million reference seems to be deduced from the letters in the Hebrew alphabet, which also can represent numbers. This is eisegesis at its best (or worst).

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Re: Request: Evidence about Leviticus 25:10 and 6,000,000

Postby Sannhet » 1 week 4 days ago (Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:25 am)

What is the earliest reference to 6,000,000 after 1944 or so? If we can determine that it comes from a source with likely or known ties to Jewish mysticism, this would bolster this line of argument very much.

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Re: Request: Evidence about Leviticus 25:10 and 6,000,000

Postby borjastick » 1 week 4 days ago (Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:51 am)

Sannhet wrote:What is the earliest reference to 6,000,000 after 1944 or so? If we can determine that it comes from a source with likely or known ties to Jewish mysticism, this would bolster this line of argument very much.[/quote)

Israel on Tuesday honored Japan's "Schindler" by naming a street after the Japanese diplomat who issued thousands of exit visas to desperate European Jews, against his government's orders.


Chiune Sugihara helped about 6,000 Jews escape war-torn Lithuania, the advancing Nazis and an almost certain death with his actions during World War Two.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Israel ... WII-456199
Not 6m but any number starting with a six will do for jewish mysticism. Take a look at this one and then apply the same logic to many jewish stories and you'll find a 6 somewhere in the mix.
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Re: Request: Evidence about Leviticus 25:10 and 6,000,000

Postby Sannhet » 1 week 3 days ago (Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:38 am)


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First case of post-Holocaust 'Six Million Jews' in print?

Postby Sannhet » 1 week 3 days ago (Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:04 am)

Sannhet wrote:What is the earliest reference to 6,000,000 after 1944 or so? If we can determine that it comes from a source with likely or known ties to Jewish mysticism, this would bolster this line of argument very much.

To address this question -- though I am sure there are CODOH-Forum people with more info on this than I have -- see the Google Ngram for 'six million Jews.'

The earliest post-Holocaust (actually during the Holocaust as alleged) that I find is from a 1943 (month unknown) publication, by a mysterious group called the "American Zionist Emergency Council," apparently formed by a Rabbi Abba Hillel Silver. The problems with their claim are: (1) in 1943, there is no way that an American Zionist lobby group could've known anything with certainty what was going on in chaotic wartime Europe; this is strong evidence for the Six Million figure's origins being in naked black-propaganda; (2) according to orthodox Holocaustism, six million Jews were not yet dead in 1943 as a very large share of the total died in 1944 and 1945.

There is no Google Books ability to read this book, excerpt very limited excerpts. Here is the publication info:

Bibliographic information
Title: Palestine, Volumes 1-5
Contributor: American Zionist Emergency Council
Publisher: The Council, 1943
The excerpt:

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"[1943:] Almost six million Jews lay dead in Europe, victims of the sadistic hate of the Nazis. A million and a half -- and this is an uncertain, unknown count -- remain in Europe in situations sometimes almost as....

Note the subtle chutzpah here. You may miss it if you're not paying attention. The author is sure, states confidently, that six million Jews "lay dead," killed by the Nazis....but as far how many are alive, that he is "uncertain"...

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Where did Rabbi Silver or people close to him get the Six Million figure? And/or why did they choose to use it? Can we reasonably suppose close ties to Jewish mysticism? I don't know. Here is a personal recollection of Rabbi Silver from a friend:
Because of [Rabbi Abba Hillel Silver's] intense Jewish nationalism, he
was certainly not a "classical" Reformer. Nevertheless, he shared with
that school the conviction that Judaism as a religio-ethical way of thinking
and living was the central fact of human existence, superior to all other
religious and philosophic systems. Rational and pragmatic about most
matters, he possessed more than a touch of mystical passion about
this view and about his God faith
. Even his Zionism must be viewed in
this light, as a perusal of his writings and addresses will clearly reveal.
It was the incarnation of the Messianic drive of the people of Israel,
rooted in a long past of racial experience and dreaming, for spiritual
hegemony in the world.

(from Abba Hillel Silver: A Personal Memoir, 1967, by LEON I. FEUER) [Link]


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