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Re: Hitler's Peace Offers Vs Unconditional Surrender

Postby Dresden » 1 year 5 months ago (Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:35 pm)

The owners and controllers of the mass media are the ones who pushed for war:

"Half a dozen men controlling the film industry (Hollywood) were bent on inflaming the American people to clamour for war." -- Senator Clark, 10th September, 1941

"It is not only the dictators who are sensitive to criticism. Already the pitch has been reached in Great Britain where it is considered bigoted or reactionary to do other than praise the Jews for their industry and ability. Few papers will risk any attack on the Jews, however well-founded, for fearing of appearing even distantly anti-Semitic." -- Sidney Rogerson, The Next War

"Appearing before a Senate Committee investigating propaganda in films, he (Senator B.C Clark) said the industry was turning out dozens of pictures to infect the minds of their audiences with hatred and to arouse their emotions. America's 17,000 cinemas virtually constitute daily and nightly mass meetings for war." -- Daily Express, September 11th, 1941

"There is scarcely a newspaper or reputable review in this country that will open its columns to the realities of the German situation; indeed, anything that is favourable to the Hitler regime is turned down by the British Press with scorn." -- G.E.O. Knight, In Defence of Germany

"Money is easier made by lying than by telling the truth. The Press has been responsible for numerous wars." -- Dr. Otto Dietrich, German Secretary of State


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Re: Hitler's Peace Offers Vs Unconditional Surrender

Postby Dresden » 1 year 5 months ago (Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:43 pm)

JEWS AND THE RED CROSS PROTEST AT ANTI-GERMAN PRESS DISTORTION

"Not a few Jews found these statements (Samuel Untermeyer's) and many others far too strong to swallow. They were so startling that some American associations made direct enquiries. Judge John Payn, Chairman of the American Red Cross and the League of Red Cross Societies, had received a report from the German Red Cross, which said:

"The reports of atrocities which have been spread abroad for reasons of political propaganda are in no way in accordance with the facts. Arbitrary and unauthorised acts, a few of which occurred in the first days of the national revolution, have been effectively stopped by energetic measures on the part of the government." -- German Red Cross


PURE INVENTIONS

"All such reports are pure inventions. The Central Union states emphatically that German Jewry cannot be held responsible for these inexcusable distortions which deserve the severest condemnation." -- Central Union of German Citizens of Jewish Faith, March 25th, 1933

"Lurid as were the details of bodily mistreatment, it must be emphatically stated that this form of National Socialist attack on Jewry was exaggerated by the foreign Press far out of proportion to its importance in the German anti-German movement and was a far removed from the general tone of German life as Negro lynchings in our south is from normal American life." -- John B. Holt, American observer in Germany

"The alleged anti-Jewish activities in Germany, which people are taking pains to make known to the world, are in substance such that the most stupid reader of the most mendacious boulevard paper can not be taken in. There is an excess of lies and slander which simply negates itself. One can almost do nothing better in the interests of a real enlightenment concerning the developments in Germany than to disseminate these lies in the world and also in Germany itself." -- Karl Rauch, (anti-National Socialist), Die Literarische Welt, February 23rd, 1933
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Re: Hitler's Peace Offers Vs Unconditional Surrender

Postby Dresden » 1 year 5 months ago (Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:51 pm)

INFORMATION BLACKOUT:

"In no country has the historical blackout been more intense and effective than in Great Britain. Here, it has been ingenuously christened, 'The Iron Curtain of Discreet Silence', by the able English lawyer and historian of warfare, Frederick J.P Veale. Virtually nothing has been written to reveal the truth about British responsibility for the Second World War and its disastrous results." -- Harry Elmer Barnes

THE 'DANCING FUHRER' LIE

"For twenty-years a Birmingham M.P., Boyle has a deep interest in the Chamberlain family. . . he also disclosed that the British version of the famous film in which Hitler skips with joy at the defeat of France was doctored by us for propaganda purposes. Hitler's tread that day was in fact remarkably sober." -- Sunday Telegraph, 26th March, 1972

"The Press is our greatest evil." -- Thomas Moore, M.P., House of Commons, May 25th,1938
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Re: Hitler's Peace Offers Vs Unconditional Surrender

Postby Dresden » 1 year 5 months ago (Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:59 pm)

ADOLF HITLER

"The rest of the world, however, whom we have done no wrong and whom we ask nothing but to be left to go our way in peace, has for months past been engaged in spreading lying reports and slander about us.
"During the time that a national revolution was taking place in Germany, which, unlike the French and Russian revolutions, did not indulge in human carnage or murder hostages, did not, as in the times of the rising in Paris and of the red revolutionaries in Bavaria and Hungary, destroy buildings and works of art by fire, but which, on the contrary, did not smash a single shop window, and neither plundered shops nor damaged houses." -- Adolf Hitler

"Unscrupulous agitators have been at work spreading atrocity stories which can only be compared with those lies that were fabricated by the same instigators at the beginning of the Great War." -- Adolf Hitler

"Nine-tenths of the difficulties under which we are suffering can be traced in malicious news reports." -- M. Vladimir d'Ormesson, Confidence in Germany, 1928

"Calumny reigns supreme in the country. Daily exaggerations weaken public opinion and overthrow it. In certain spheres, money plays an unholy role. Certain financial and economic groups are able to destroy mankind at will." -- M. Henry Cheron, French Keeper of the Seal, November 13th, 1934

"Realising the position the Fuhrer clearly stated in May, 1936, at a meeting of the Reichstag that all attempts to relax this international tension would be in vain as long as successful measures were not taken to avoid the pollution of international public opinion by irresponsible poisoners." -- Dr. Otto Dietrich, German Secretary of State.
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Re: Hitler's Peace Offers Vs Unconditional Surrender

Postby Dresden » 1 year 5 months ago (Sun Mar 20, 2016 1:18 pm)

Control of the Mass Media

From the book:

How Wars are Made, by Michael Walsh

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/wars ... ory/1.html

From Protocol No. 2:

"In the hands of the States of today there is a great force that creates the movement of thought in the people, and that is the Press. The part played by the Press is to keep pointing out requirements supposed to be indispensable, to give voice to the complaints of the people, to express and create discontent.

"It is in the Press that the triumph of freedom of speech finds its incarnation.

"But the goyim States have not known how to make use of this force; and it has fallen into our hands. Through the Press we have gained the power to influence while remaining ourselves in the shade."

From Protocol No. 7:

". . . We must compel the governments of the goyim to take action in the direction favoured by our widely-conceived plan already approaching the desired consummation, [written 100 years ago] by what we shall represent as public opinion, secretly prompted by us through the means of that so-called "Great Power" -- the Press, which, with a few exceptions that may be disregarded, is already entirely in our hands.
"In a word, to sum up our system of keeping the governments of the goyim in Europe in check, we shall show our strength to one of them by terrorist attempts and to all, if we allow the possibility of a general rising against us we shall respond with the guns of America or China or Japan."

And from Protocol No. 12, this is a bit protracted; however it does demonstrate the immense power they wield by using the "26 soldiers of lead".

"We shall deal with the press in the following way. What is the part played by the press today? It serves to excite and inflame those passions which are needed for our purpose or else it serves selfish ends of parties. It is often vapid, unjust, mendacious, and the majority of the public have not the slightest idea what ends the press really serves.
"We shall saddle and bridle it with a tight curb: we shall do the same also with all productions of the printing press [i.e. books, magazines, pamphlets, etc.], for where would be the sense of getting rid of the attacks of the press if we remain targets for pamphlets and books?

"The produce of publicity, which nowadays is a source of heavy expense owing to the necessity of censoring it, will be turned by us into a very lucrative source of income to our State. . .

"No one shall with impunity lay a finger on the aureole of our government infallibility. The pretext for stopping any publication will be the alleged plea that it is agitating the public mind without occasion or justification. I beg you to note that among those making attacks upon us will also be organs established by us, but they will attack exclusively points that we have pre-determined to alter.

"Not a single announcement will reach the public without our control. Even now this is already attained by us inasmuch as all news items are received by a few agencies in whose offices they are focused from all parts of the world. These agencies will then be already entirely ours and will give publicity only to what we dictate to them. . .

"All of our newspapers will be of all possible complexions -- aristocratic, republican, revolutionary, even anarchical -- for so long, of course, as the constitution exists. . .

"They will have a finger on any one of the public opinions required. When a pulse quickens these hands will lead opinion in the direction of our aims, for an excited patient loses all power of judgment and easily yields to suggestions. Those fools who will think they are repeating the opinion of a newspaper of their own camp will be repeating our opinion or any opinion that seems desirable for us."

This tirade continues on stating how they will use the press to attack themselves and give the 'impression' that there is, in fact, free speech, while all the time it will be them, manipulating the minds of the stupid goyim who believe they are following the lines of their party. With that control over a hundred years ago, be clear that there is nothing today, nor form of media nor entertainment that emanates from the mainstream that will not carry their message into the minds of the unsuspecting.
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Re: Hitler's Peace Offers Vs Unconditional Surrender

Postby onetruth » 1 year 4 months ago (Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:55 pm)

Steve F wrote:]From Protocol No. 2:

"In the hands of the States of today there is a great force that creates the movement of thought in the people, and that is the Press. The part played by the Press is to keep pointing out requirements supposed to be indispensable, to give voice to the complaints of the people, to express and create discontent.


Steve f

You are quoting from a fake text . This is a fabricated text purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination. There was no such plan , there was no group called the elders of Zion. In fact this this forgery was first published in Russia in 1903 and was proven to be a fake .

I cant believe you are using this text in order to prove some history facts.

If you contest this , kindly bring us any source that authenticates the existence of such a group called Elders of Zion.

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Re: Hitler's Peace Offers Vs Unconditional Surrender

Postby Dresden » 1 year 4 months ago (Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:01 am)

You are delusional and ill informed, one"truth".

The Protocols fit what has been happening in the world since 1897 to a tee.

Only a willfully blind idiot or a liar can deny this.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm
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Re: Hitler's Peace Offers Vs Unconditional Surrender

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Steve F.:
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Re: Hitler's Peace Offers Vs Unconditional Surrender

Postby Dresden » 1 year 4 months ago (Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:22 am)

Moderator wrote:Steve F.:
onetruth should not be subjected to name calling.

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Do not respond with name calling.

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Ok.....sorry about that!
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Re: Hitler's Peace Offers Vs Unconditional Surrender

Postby Dresden » 1 year 4 months ago (Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:27 pm)

Churchill and Britain's plan to destroy Germany:

"The German people, together with the so-called dictatorships and totalitarian countries, of course, form the great obstacle to Britain in her victorious career towards world domination. As the methods of peaceful propaganda which the British Government previously employed did not prove sufficient for the refutation of the thesis of German intellectual equality of rights, Britain resorted to war. As the Great War had failed to realise Britain's ambition, the German nation was now to be utterly destroyed." -- Sidney Rogerson, The Next War

"Britain was taking advantage of the situation to go to war against Germany because the Reich had become too strong and had upset the European balance. To correct the fundamental trouble, from Britain's point of view, Germany, after her defeat, must be weakened as a protective measure. No morality enters into the matter, only consideration of power politics and British survival." -- Ralph Franklin Keeling

"The English would never have contrived World War Two if they had not been sure of Roosevelt's help. . . what is the net result? First, the Asiatic barbarians, held at bay since 1683, have been let loose in Western Europe. . ." -- H.L. Mencken, Life Magazine, August 5th, 1946, p.46

"This (the American declaration of war) is what I dreamed of, aimed at and worked for and now it has come to pass." -- Winston Churchill, 15th February, 1942


"We never thought of making a separate peace even in the years when we were all alone and could easily have made one without serious loss to the British Empire and largely at your expense." -- Churchill letter to Joseph Stalin, 24th January, 1944

"Germany has become a dangerous competitor for the principle imperialistic powers of Europe, Great Britain and France. They therefore declared war on Germany and under the pretext of fulfilling their obligations to Poland.
"It is now clearer than ever how far the real aims of the governments of these powers are from the purpose of defending disintegrated Poland or Czechoslovakia. This is shown only by the fact that the governments of Great Britain and France have proclaimed that their aim in this war is to smash and dismember Germany, although this is still being concealed from the mass of the people under cover of slogans of defending 'democratic' countries and the rights of small nations." -- Soviet Foreign Commissar, Vyacheslav Molotov, 6th Session Supreme Soviet, 29th March, 1940

"We will of course be told tomorrow morning, that Hitler has attacked Poland. Certain people have been waiting and longing for this moment. They were expecting this attack, having been hankering and praying for it. These men are called Mandel, Churchill, Hore-Belisha and Paul Reynard.
The great league of Jewish reaction was determined to have its own war. This was its holy war. They knew very well that only such an attack would give them a chance to capture public opinion.
It will not be very difficult to find the necessary proofs in the German archives that certain gentlemen in cold blood prepared the conditions which made this attack inevitable. Woe betide them should the true history of the war ever be written." -- Prof. Maurice Bardeche, France


"One of the most priceless incidents in the course of the discussion took place when a black exchange student asked Prof. Jacobsen, in good German, how it was that Germany and not England could be chiefly responsible for the war, considering the fact that the German leaders were severely disappointed when Great Britain and France declared war, while the English leaders were delighted and in a good mood when they were able to carry out the British and French declarations of war against Germany.
"This is a classic example of the question which no one can answer who adheres to the thesis of the primary guilt of Germany." -- Prof. David L. Hoggan, The Artificial War
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Re: Hitler's Peace Offers Vs Unconditional Surrender

Postby Dresden » 1 year 4 months ago (Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:36 pm)

Harry Elmer Barnes on War Guilt:

"The Primary and direct responsibility for the European war, which grew into the Second World War, was almost solely that of Great Britain and the British war group, made up of both Conservatives and Labourites.
"If Britain had not gratuitously given Poland a blank cheque, which was not needed in the slightest to assure British security, Poland surely might not have risked a war with Germany. Nevertheless, there would still have been no justification for British intervention in such a war or for the provocation of a European war." -- Harry Elmer Barnes, U.S. War Historian

". . . virtually no truth has been told in England on the Second World war since 1939. No public, even the British public, can stand too large a dose of truth all in one batch. A complete account of the origins of the Second World War could not have been accepted or digested all at one time. Even Professor Taylor's (A.J.P. Taylor) personal safety might have been placed in jeopardy." -- Harry Elmer Barnes, U.S. War Historian

Note: Harry Elmer Barnes is perhaps the most respected revisionist historian in the United States of America, of whom the noted and foremost British authority, George Peabody Gooch said;

"No other American scholar has done so much to familiarise his countrymen with the new evidence and to compel them to revise their wartime judgements in the light of this new material."

"If another war comes and the history of it is ever written, the dispassionate historian a hundred years hence, will not say that Germany alone was responsible for it, even if she strikes first, but that those who mismanaged the world between 1918 and 1937 had a large share of responsibility in it." -- Lord Lothian, British Ambassador to the U.S., March, 1938
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Re: Hitler's Peace Offers Vs Unconditional Surrender

Postby onetruth » 1 year 4 months ago (Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:58 pm)

Steve F wrote:
"If another war comes and the history of it is ever written, the dispassionate historian a hundred years hence, will not say that Germany alone was responsible for it, even if she strikes first, but that those who mismanaged the world between 1918 and 1937 had a large share of responsibility in it." -- Lord Lothian, British Ambassador to the U.S., March, 1938


Steve f

Again you bring us half quotes in a way that leads to wrong conclusions and misrepresentation of history. First Lord Lothian was appointed ambassador to the united state only in 1939 not 1938.

It is true that Lord Lothian , at first , was a strong supporter for appeasement and the munich agreement but all that changed after Hitler's violation of the Munich Agreement and occupation of Czechoslovakia.

in March 1939 , Lord Lothian wrote to his friend on 29 March 1939 the following :


" to believe that Germany was only concerned with recovery of what might be called the normal rights of a great power, but it now seems clear that Hitler is in effect a fanatical gangster who will stop at nothing to beat down all possibility of resistance anywhere to his will '.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Ke ... te_note-16

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Re: Hitler's Peace Offers Vs Unconditional Surrender

Postby Dresden » 1 year 4 months ago (Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:34 pm)

That's ok, onetruth.....I don't trust Wikipedia.

It's a truncated quote with no ellipsis.
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Postby Dresden » 1 year 4 months ago (Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:21 pm)

THE RUSSIAN -- GERMAN DECLARATION OF WAR

"The common view is stated with the usual abandon in W.L Shirer's The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, of which, incidentally, the A.J.P. Taylor book, Origins of the Second World War, is a devastating refutation.

"Shirer declares that the German note to Russia on June 22nd, 1941, 'topped all the previous ones for sheer effrontery and deceit' because it charged that Russia had practised sabotage, terrorism and espionage against Germany, had resisted German attempts to establish a stable order in Europe, had conspired with Great Britain in the Balkans, and had menaced the Third Reich with troop concentrations.

"As a matter of fact every word in these charges was true." -- Harry Elmer Barnes, U.S War Historian

Note: The Jewish author, William L. Shirer's, Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, is probably the most hyped book on the Third Reich in existence; there can be few who do not have a copy and who use it to base their opinions on the period. In fact, it is no more authoritative and reliable than are for instance notorious tabloids such as The News of the World and The Sun. It had been at one time my intention to conclusively expose each of its falsehoods, deliberate distortions, half-truths and omissions, using only the most reliably-sourced documented evidence. It quickly became apparent that the task would take too long for the time available, as the book is from first page to last a calculated distortion. - Michael Walsh, Witness to History

I trust that Witness to History will help to set the record straight, and recommend also A.J.P. Taylor's The Origins of the Second World War and Liddell Hart's History of the Second World War.

"It is doubtful if a more extensive anthology of errors (Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich) concerning the personality and policies of Hitler and the causes and responsibility for the Second World War has ever been assembled, even in war time." -- Harry Elmer Barnes

"Although Hitler offered very generous terms to Poland in 1938 - 1939, they were nothing compared with those he offered Molotov in Berlin in November, 1940.
"Izvolski would quite literally have swooned with ecstasy over such a prospect -- not only the freedom of the Straits but access to the Persian Gulf and the great riches of the Middle East. The fact that Russia rejected these brusquely is the best proof that Stalin wished war rather than a peaceful adjustment with Hitler." -- Harry Elmer Barnes, U.S. War Historian
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Re: Hitler's Peace Offers Vs Unconditional Surrender

Postby Dresden » 1 year 4 months ago (Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:29 pm)

ALEXANDER SOLSZENIZYN

"I would like to remind you about the kind of system the foreign relations have been taken up with. Here it is:

"It was a system that got into power by armed revolt, that dispersed the constituent assembly.

"It was a system that liquidated political opponents without any judicial proceedings, that suppressed the strikes of the working men, that pillaged the villages so insufferably thus driving the peasants to rebellion, which were crushed bloodily.
"It was a system that destroyed the Church, that drove twenty governments of the country into starvation.

"It was a system that was first to introduce concentration camps in the twentieth century, as well as the method of taking hostages. i.e. not by catching the persecuted ones, but rather their families or indiscriminately any one to shoot them down.

"It was a system that deceived the working people with all its decrees; the decree concerning the land reform, the decree concerning peace, the decree concerning the manufacturing plants, the decree concerning the freedom of the Press.
"It was a system that liquidated all the other parties. I ask you to get me right; it did not alone destroy the parties as such, it did not only dissolve the parties, but it liquidated their members.

"It was a system that introduced the genocide of the peasants: fifteen million peasants have been deported for liquidation.

"It was the system that introduced serfdom anew.

"It was the system that provoked an artificial famine in the Ukraine during peace time. Six million people died of hunger in the Ukraine at the border of Europe during the years 1932 and 1933.

"During the years 1918 and 1919 the Tcheka shot more than 1,000 people a month without legal procedure. At the climax of Stalin-terror, during the years 1937-1938, the number of people shot to death averages more than 40,000 a month.

"-- and with this country, with this Soviet Union, the whole allied democratic world entered a war alliance in 1941." -- Alexander Solszenizyn, June, 30th, 1975. U.S. -- American Union Organisation
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