Revisionism is causing hyper-promotion of the storyline

[offline Hannover]

It's my opinion that one of main reasons we're seeing the constant, hyper-promotion of the 'holocau$t' story is Revisionism.

Trying with all their might to dismiss Revisionist research, trying with all their might to smear Revisionists, trying with all their might to arrest and terrorize Revisionists (and terrorizing is exactly what they're doing); the bottom line is that the 'holocau$t' Industry is scared to death.

You can bet your last dollar that they watch this site closely, it's guaranteed that they will attempt make any Revisionist efforts illegal in the US. Guaranteed.

They know informed Revisionists are unbeatable in real debate, check out posts from the people from the so called 'holocau$t' History Project at this site and see for yourself, it's a bloody rout. Revisionists win hands down, it's no contest and not even close.

The Industry is now completely backed into a corner. Their only option is to continue to promote, market, demand obediance, and ofcourse, what they've been doing for decades, lie. The problem is that the more they hyper-promote their nonsense, the more people will resent it and the more people will see the fear and hatred in the eyes of the judeo-supremacists/Zionists. With that the public will begin to get curious as to why the continual drumbeat on what is supposed to be 'fact'. Real fact doesn't need this type of behaviour, this absurd and revealing hyper-promotion, self aggrandisement, and anti-science nonsense.

- Hannover

[offlineCarto's Cutlass Supreme]

It's true.

The hyper promotion is under the guise of "we must never, never forget." That's why the movies come out etc.

Yet, the major eyewitness books that the holocaust historians use: Not always so easy to find.

Or you can have Hilberg tell you what these eyewitnesses say, but Hilberg's skill is citing all the believable parts and leaving out all the unbelievable parts. For Hilberg, if something is totally false on one page, the next page might be totally true!

"Never, never forget" and yet the literature of the eyewitnesses is never pushed on the public. In fact it's swept under the rug. Why? It's an embarrassment. Obviously fraudulent.

[offlinesemblance7]

Hi Hannover

What is the connection you see between the 'Holocaust' and Revisionism? Are you suggesting 'Holocaust' Promoters are redoubling their efforts 'because' of Revisionism?

Other than the obvious (Irving v Lipstadt, etc) what cause-effects do you see?

Regards

[offlineCarto's Cutlass Supreme]

I think he answers those questions in his original post.

But let me add something: in Voices and Views by Deborah Dwork, there is a picture of the gas chamber at Auschwitz. The caption says that the heat of the bodies warmed the room.

The warming of the room is a big revisionist position. So the industry is changing their stories based on what revisionists say.

In the latest Auschwitz documentary on BBC, they add kula columns and other things to the Auschwitz story (I haven't seen it.) Hilberg never mentions that. Again, that's in response to the impossibilities of the old story that revsionists point out.

[offlinesemblance7]

It's my opinion that one of main reasons we're seeing the constant, hyper-promotion of the 'holocau$t' story is Revisionism.

Thanks CCS, It was 'hyper-promotion', per Hannover, that I was asking about. When, and connected to what Revisionist Event, did the holocaust gang move to hyper drive?

I ask (as if to tweak him - and mind, only in good sport), is Hannover feeling somewhat self-important with his statement-of-claim?

[offlineCarto's Cutlass Supreme]

"hyper drive" might mean that you almost can't open a newspaper without finding a holocaust story, 60 years after the fact. Or hyper drive might mean the amount of movies on the subject.

How many movies are there about the Stalin Purges in the last 10 years compared to holocaust movies? Maybe that will define "hyperdrive" for you.

Stalin Purges and Holocaust in Hollywood: can 10 years earlier, and a thousand miles apart, and a million people less, make such a difference regarding Hollywood attention?

Or the bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima: I don't recall ever reading a single newspaper article on a survivor of that in my entire life. Nor have I ever heard of a movie about an individual who survived it. Contrasting that to the amount of holocaust movies and newspaper articles might define "hyper promotion" for you.

Of course comparing Hiroshima/Nagasaki with the holocaust is like comparing apples and oranges. Because the holocaust didn't really happen. Hollywood helped create the holocaust myth, so their movies about it now are a fictionalization of a fiction. "Never forget" means never forget the fiction we created to put down our enemies and promote ourselves. In this sense, Hollywood holocaust movies are about Hollywood.

[offlinesemblance7]

"hyper drive" might mean that you almost can't open a newspaper without finding a holocaust story, 60 years after the fact. Or hyper drive might mean the amount of movies on the subject.

I agree CCS, however, I almost feel as if Hannover, in this thread, is 'taking credit?' somehow for Revisionists' work 'causing' an hyper-drive of 'holocaust' over-achievers? I don't see the connection (?)

I think that Revisionism, in its ultimate form, is dispassionate, calm and a simple stating of the facts (and that is where many of you guys lose me )

[offline Haldan]

The Hoaxco$t con-artists have had a "hyper-drive" of lies, Revisionists on the other hand, has had their "hyper-drive" in regards of the absence of any evidence. Physical or otherwise, there simply is none which confirms their laughable stories.

What a "holocaust"!

-haldan

[offlineRichard Perle]

"hyper drive" might mean that you almost can't open a newspaper without finding a holocaust story, 60 years after the fact. Or hyper drive might mean the amount of movies on the subject.

I agree CCS, however, I almost feel as if Hannover, in this thread, is 'taking credit?' somehow for Revisionists' work 'causing' an hyper-drive of 'holocaust' over-achievers? I don't see the connection (?)

I think that Revisionism, in its ultimate form, is dispassionate, calm and a simple stating of the facts (and that is where many of you guys lose me )

I think you misunderstand Hannover. The point, as I see it, is that the holocaust industry has increased promotion of it's story over the past 20 years seemingly as a result of the increase in revisionism. I can very well believe that there is a link. The more the stories are repeated the deeper they get pushed into the minds of the public, and the less notice this public will take of opposing views. I recently brought up the Ukrainian holocaust with a family member who had never heard of it. He could quite easily have been later persuaded that it had never happened, because he hasn't been bombarded with the stories of those who survived. Such survivors must exist and they must have tales to tell, but we haven't been exposed to them. The power of the holocaust is directly related to the amount of exposure we have had to it, and with revisionism gaining momentum, especially with the internet, the holocaust story must be repeated at an increased rate to counter any chance of revisionism making an impact on people, now or in the future.

[offlinesemblance7]

RP

I can very well believe that there is a link

OK. That is the whole impetus for my question. HOW has Revisionism caused the H over-achievers to go into hyper-drive?

[offline Haldan]

RP

I can very well believe that there is a link

HOW has Revisionism caused the H over-achievers to go into hyper-drive?

Oh, gee, perhaps by exposing their laughable lies? But they are "steaming" on as if nothing has changed.

-haldan

[offlineRichard Perle]

RP

I can very well believe that there is a link

OK. That is the whole impetus for my question. HOW has Revisionism caused the H over-achievers to go into hyper-drive?

Simply by existing.

[offlinesemblance7]

Hannover

It's my opinion that one of main reasons we're seeing the constant, hyper-promotion of the 'holocau$t' story is Revisionism.

How has Revisionism caused hyper-promotion? No one, including Hannover, is speaking to the question.

[offlineCarto's Cutlass Supreme]

Your question has been directly answered by about 3 people.
Maybe Hannover didn't answer it because he hasn't come to this website since you posted that around 11 hours ago or whatever.

I agree CCS, however, I almost feel as if Hannover, in this thread, is 'taking credit?' somehow for Revisionists' work 'causing' an hyper-drive of 'holocaust' over-achievers? I don't see the connection (?)

"Taking credit"? I don't know how you could have got that from what he said.

I think that Revisionism, in its ultimate form, is dispassionate, calm and a simple stating of the facts (and that is where many of you guys lose me

I don't know what you're talking about. Maybe it's better to just be direct. Do you have some evidence or a persuasive argument to show that the holocaust happened? If so start a new thread and let's discuss it, rather than discussing how you almost feel that Hannover is doing this and that.

[offlineNick Danger]

s7 asks:

How has Revisionism caused hyper-promotion? No one, including Hannover, is speaking to the question.

"A recent report by the David S. Wyman Institute for Holocaust Studies
found that Holocaust-denial is a real and growing problem, and continues
to be actively promoted in Europe, the Middle East, and elsewhere, and
in some cases enjoys government sponsorship."
Prof. David S. Wyman in letter to C-Span. 03/2005.


They are feeling the effects and, in my opinion, are in panic mode.
Their attempts to protect the house of cards cannot withstand the winds of revisionism