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Postby Reviso » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:56 am

A topic about the Gleiwitz affair had been recently created.I had posted on it. Now, I find it no more. Is it possible to know the reason ? Thanks.
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Re: Gleiwitz

Postby ClaudiaRothenbach » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:49 pm

Reviso wrote:A topic about the Gleiwitz affair had been recently created.I had posted on it. Now, I find it no more. Is it possible to know the reason ? Thanks.


This is a holocheese forum.
Gleiwitz is only quite indirectly connected with the holohoax. :mrgreen:
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Re: Gleiwitz

Postby Hektor » Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:37 pm

But there is a connection, even an important one.
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Re: Gleiwitz

Postby Moderator » Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:41 pm

Hektor wrote:But there is a connection, even an important one.

Tell us about the connection.
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Re: Gleiwitz

Postby Älghuvud » Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:02 pm

Moderator wrote:
Hektor wrote:But there is a connection, even an important one.

Tell us about the connection.
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Although I cannot see any direct connection between the Gleiwitz incident and the Holocaust either I am very interested in this topic. I know there are at least two revisionist versions about it.

One being that there was indeed a German false flag operation but without any violence and without Hitler's knowledge. There was only a short broadcast in the Polish language after two SS men had entered the studio. Both men left with "Heil Hitler!" and there was not a single shot fired. As there were real border raids in other places - partly committed by regular Polish military - Germany actually didn't need this incident as a pretense. Therefore some people hold that this was one of Heydrich's solo runs which was later distorted by Allied propaganda as a proof for Germany being responsible for the outbreak of WW II.

The other being that the whole thing was not a false flag operation at all but that Gleiwitz had really been raided by irregular Polish troups which were some time later repelled by German soldiers or border guards. I once heard that Heydrich described the incident - which at any rate was not the immediate cause for Germany invading Poland - afterwards with the help of an electrical model.
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Re: Gleiwitz

Postby Mortimer » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:40 pm

Älghuvud wrote:
Moderator wrote:
Hektor wrote:But there is a connection, even an important one.

Tell us about the connection.
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Although I cannot see any direct connection between the Gleiwitz incident and the Holocaust either I am very interested in this topic. I know there are at least two revisionist versions about it.

One being that there was indeed a German false flag operation but without any violence and without Hitler's knowledge. There was only a short broadcast in the Polish language after two SS men had entered the studio. Both men left with "Heil Hitler!" and there was not a single shot fired. As there were real border raids in other places - partly committed by regular Polish military - Germany actually didn't need this incident as a pretense. Therefore some people hold that this was one of Heydrich's solo runs which was later distorted by Allied propaganda as a proof for Germany being responsible for the outbreak of WW II.

The other being that the whole thing was not a false flag operation at all but that Gleiwitz had really been raided by irregular Polish troups which were some time later repelled by German soldiers or border guards. I once heard that Heydrich described the incident - which at any rate was not the immediate cause for Germany invading Poland - afterwards with the help of an electrical model.

What Carlos Porter has to say about Gleiwitz - http://www.cwporter.com/gleiwitz.htm
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Re: Gleiwitz

Postby Reviso » Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:44 pm

You can read here :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... ictim.html
an article "World War II's first victim", by Bob Graham , in The Telegraph, 29 Aug 2009.
Bob Graham tells us the official version, but he doesn't explain why the witnesses of the facts were so reluctant to speak about them. (Look at the seven last paragraphs of the article.)
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Re: Gleiwitz

Postby Hektor » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:19 am

Moderator wrote:
Hektor wrote:But there is a connection, even an important one.

Tell us about the connection.

I am still investigating the details. But the Naujocks story is prototype of many "Holocaust testimony" stories told by SS-men.
http://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/ ... ld-war-ii/
As I still look into it. But there is good reasons not to believe the Naujocks affidavit in many points.
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Re: Gleiwitz

Postby Haldan » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:37 am

First off, let me just say I don't believe a word Naujocks says about this in his affidavit. It is so characteristic of "Holocaust Testimony", too. Isn't it?

I remember researching this for many years ago. I have notes someplace about books dealing with this topic - I think Hoggan does it, but I'm not 100% sure of it since I will not look at the notes now (maybe this will peek my curiosity soon again).

But can somebody tell me:

    How and where was the affidavit obtained, specifically? Under what circumstances?

    What's the connection to the alleged Holocaust other than his affidavit reeking of similarities to other affidavits (but dealing with "Holocaust" issues)?

    Has somebody else -- allegedly involved in this "covert operation" -- ever spoken a word about it?

    What was the name of the civilian / concentration camp man / detainee that they allegedly used for this "covert op"?

The Germans did hardly need Gleiwitz as some excuse to invade Poland, either. They had loads of reasons to deal with Poland (all legitimate).

Should this topic be moved to:
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Now that we have such a good category to discuss issues like the one in this thread? :P

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Re: Gleiwitz

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Re: Gleiwitz

Postby Hektor » Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:35 pm

I think one needs to follow a dual approach on this.
a) Try to use Naujocks testimony to built a case for what he's saying. Critique that.
b) Critically assess what he is saying. Find and test odd statement by him.

One thing I find very odd is for example the following:
Muller stated that he had 12 or 13 condemned criminals who were to be dressed in Polish uniforms and left dead on the ground at the scene of the incident to show that they had been killed while attacking. For this purpose they were to be given fatal injections by a doctor employed by Heydrich. Then they were also to be given gunshot wounds.

Now why have the hassle with the doctor? Why not simply kill them with the gun shot wounds...? Of course one can now come with egg dancing on it, but it's odd nevertheless.
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Re: Gleiwitz

Postby Hannover » Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:57 pm

The so called 'Gleiwitz Incident' as an excuse for Germans to start shooting makes little sense. After all, the well documented Polish atrocities against Germans and the very fair proposals by Germany for return of stolen land did not require an incident in order to justify force against Poland.

I have two pieces on Gleiwitz which I hope add to the discussion. I look forward to comments.

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The Gleiwitz “False Flag” Incident is Pure Fiction

By Carolyn Yeager

The following article is based on my notes for my radio program of March 19, 2012, and expanded to include further research and also clarification of a few details that became somewhat unclear largely because of the weather-related interruptions during the program. Once again, I hope readers will spread this article far and wide. Pictured right: German Radio Station Gleiwitz in 1936.

Why the story was invented in the first place

Robert H. Jackson, a U.S. Supreme Court Justice from 1941 to 1954, was sent to Europe when the war was ending to make sure that Germany alone would be blamed for the Second World War. Jackson, as leader of the U.S. legal team, helped draft the London Charter of the International Military Tribunal, which created the legal basis for the Nuremberg Trials.

Above: Chief Prosecutor for the United States Robert Jackson at Nuremberg making an aggressive case against the "Nazis."

After studying some of the documents, Jackson knew well and emphasized that the German declaration of war on the United States was perfectly legal. Therefore, he pointed out, it had to be shown before the court that the war in Europe was, from the beginning, a German aggression contrary to international law (making it a Crime Against Peace). Thus, the invasion of Poland had to be shown to be an aggressive move, with no justification and no blame on Poland. Further study of the files brought Jackson to doubt that a fair trial would support, in any way, the finding of Germany’s exclusive responsibility. On the contrary, he said:

“The Germans will certainly accuse our three European allies to have pursued a policy that has enforced the war. I say this because the seized documents from the German Foreign Office, which I have seen, all come to the same conclusion: “We have no escape, we must fight, we are surrounded, we are strangled.” How would a judge react if this is found in the trial? I think he would say: “Before I condemn anyone as the aggressor, he ought to describe his motives.”

And that would be catastrophic, Jackson continued, because

“… if this trial leads to a discussion of the political and economic causes of the war, this may cause infinite damage, both in Europe I do not know well, and in America that I know fairly well.”

As a servant of the U.S. Government and U.S. war policy, Jackson came up with the only solution: to ban any discussion on the causes of the war before the Nuremberg tribunal. In other words, not to have a fair trial. In the transcripts of the proceedings, nothing is found on the war policies of the West, Poland, or the USSR since almost all documents and testimonies that would have been relevant in this respect were rejected by the court as irrelevant.

But affidavits like the one signed by Alfred Naujocks, in which he claimed, without any corroboration, that he participated in a German undercover operation to attack the Gleiwitz radio station on very the night that Hitler ordered the invasion of Poland and blamed it on the Poles in order to “justify” his “crime against peace”—this was admitted by the court with no questions or discussion. Naujocks did not appear in person, only his affidavit was put in evidence; there was no opportunity for cross-examination of the witness by the defense.

In such a way did the “evidence” accumulate to find Germany's National Socialist government guilty of “Crimes Against Peace.”

Some background on Robert Jackson and his politics

Jackson was appointed to federal office by President Franklin Delano Roosevelt in 1934, serving initially as general counsel of the U.S. Treasury Department's Bureau of Internal Revenue (today's Internal Revenue Service), then as Assistant Attorney General heading the Tax Division of the Department of Justice. In 1937 he became Assistant Attorney General heading the Antitrust Division. In 1938, Jackson became United States Solicitor General, serving until January 1940 as the government's chief advocate before the Supreme Court.

Below: Robert Jackson takes the oath of office as an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court in 1941, witnessed by Pres. Franklin Roosevelt (seated), apparently in the Oval Office.


Jackson was a supporter of the New Deal and of Roosevelt, who regarded him as a potential heir—in 1937 Roosevelt considered having him run for Governor of New York. Jackson was a fellow Democrat, fellow country squire, and fellow Dutch-American.

Roosevelt appointed Jackson to the Supreme Court in 1941, even though he didn’t have a law degree. In 1943, in keeping with the liberal policies of Roosevelt’s “stacked court,” Jackson wrote the majority opinion (based on individual rights) which overturned a West Virginia public school regulation that made it mandatory to salute the flag and imposed penalties upon students who failed to comply.

After the war, in 1954, Jackson played a major role in the Brown vs. Board of Education decision. While it was being considered, Jackson wrote a draft memorandum titled “CHANGED CONDITIONS” in which he stated that prior to Brown, segregation was legal … but that the premise for overruling the separate but equal doctrine was that he now recognized as erroneous the "factual assumption" that "there were differences between the Negro and the white races, viewed as a whole." So, while Jackson could not justify the decision made in Brown in law, he did so on the basis of a “political and social imperative.” (He used the same political and social imperative rather than law to underpin decisions made at the Nuremberg IMT.)

During the deliberations on Brown in 1954, Jackson was hospitalized. Chief Justice Earl Warren visited him several times to discuss the Brown decision, and took from Part 4 of Jackson’s draft opinion this line: “Negroes have achieved outstanding success in the arts and sciences as well as in the business and professional world.” On May 17, 1954, Jackson went to the Court from the hospital so there would be a full court present on the day Brown was handed down as a unanimous decision. Jackson died in October, 1954.


What the German reports said at the time

A communication was sent from the chief of police in Gleiwitz on the night of August 31 that the radio station was assaulted by irregular Polish troops who, for a short time, succeeded in occupying the station before being chased out by the German Frontier Police. During their defense [of the station] one Polish irregular was mortally wounded and left behind.

Another communication came from a representative of the town of Troppau about the customs house of Hohenlinde. In the night of August 31, it was attacked by Polish irregulars who succeeded in occupying it; but thanks to a counterattack by Waffen-SS auxiliary troops, the irregulars were routed.

If true, this means that the first two war crimes of WWII were committed by the Poles! First, by making incursions into German territory when a declared state of war did not exist. Second, by using irregular, non-uniformed troops (doing so invites attacks on any suspicious civilians).

In the official German documents about the border raids, there are mentioned fully 44 acts of Polish aggression over the six days and nights before the German invasion (which began around 4 a.m. on September 1st). On the night of August 31st, there were reportedly 14 incidents of provocation by Polish irregulars of which Gleiwitz and Troppau were but two. In this text, it is clearly stated that the attackers did not wear Polish uniforms, but that they were irregular troops, based in Hohenlinde and in Gleiwitz. And finally, according to the German documents detailing Polish prewar attacks, the post of Hohenlinde was not burned (as stated by H. S. Hegner) but merely occupied.

In his speech to the nation on Sept. 1, 1939, Adolf Hitler did not mention, except indirectly, this so-important Gliewitz “false flag” that was supposedly ordered by him to justify his invasion order, but instead spoke at length about the ongoing provocations over the past four months by the Poles. He pointed out that since 1919-1920, 100,000 ethnic Germans who were Polish citizens had been forced to flee their homes in Poland.

He had only this to say about what occurred during the previous night:

These proposals for mediation have failed because in the meanwhile there, first of all, came as an answer the sudden Polish general mobilization (Aug. 30), followed by more Polish atrocities. These were again repeated last night (Aug. 31). Recently in one night there were as many as twenty-one frontier incidents: last night there were fourteen, of which three were quite serious. I have, therefore, resolved to speak to Poland in the same language that Poland for months past has used toward us. This attitude on the part of the Reich will not change.

Further on in his speech, Hitler said

This night for the first time Polish regular soldiers fired on our territory. Since 5:45 A.M. we have been returning the fire, and from now on bombs will be met by bombs.

Fire coming across the border from Polish regular soldiers does not mean a raid on a radio station by irregulars. The raid on the Gleiwitz station and the customs house in Hohenlinde must be included in the “three which were quite serious.” But is that how a leader makes use of a “false flag” event that he ordered, intending to use as a pretext? No.

The words “Gleiwitz” or “radio station” never came up in the speech, nor afterward from Hitler. So much for it being a German “false flag” from the German perspective!

Roosevelt's pretext for war

Let me remind you that when U.S. President Roosevelt carefully created his pretext for war—the bombing of Pearl Harbor by the Japanese—he played it up for all it was worth to Congress the next day. That's what false flags are for. Roosevelt opened his speech by saying:

Yesterday, December 7th, 1941 -- a date which will live in infamy -- the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.

The United States was at peace with that nation and, at the solicitation of Japan, was still in conversation with its government and its emperor looking toward the maintenance of peace in the Pacific.

He described the attack in detail, rallied the citizens, and ended with:

I ask that the Congress declare that since the unprovoked and dastardly attack by Japan on Sunday, December 7th, 1941, a state of war has existed between the United States and the Japanese empire.

That's how it is done.


The “confession” of Alfred Naujocks is the sole basis for the story

The only “evidence” for the Gleiwitz radio station attack as a Nazis operation consists of the uncorroborated "confession" (signed statement) in 1945 of a German SS officer, Alfred Naujocks, who was then in the hands of the Allies. Here is the affidavit taken from the transcript of the tribunal.

COL. STOREY:

I now offer in evidence Document 2751-PS, which is Exhibit USA-482. It is an affidavit of Alfred Helmut Naujocks, dated November 20, 1945. This affidavit particularly refers to the actual occurrences in connection with the Polish border incident. I believe it was referred to by the Witness Lahousen when he was on the stand:

“I, Alfred Helmut Naujocks, being first duly sworn, depose and state as follows:

“1. I was a member of the SS from 1931 to 19 October 1944 and a member of the SD [Sicherheitsdienst: SS Security Service] from its creation in 1934 to January 1941. I served as a member of the Waffen-SS from February 1941 until the middle of 1942. Later I served in the Economics Department of the Military Administration of Belgium from September 1942 to September 1944. I surrendered to the Allies on 19 October 1944.

“2. On or about 10 August 1939 the Chief of the Sipo and SD, Heydrich, personally ordered me to simulate an attack on the radio station near Gleiwitz, near the Polish border, and to make it appear that the attacking force consisted of Poles. Heydrich said: ‘Actual proof of these attacks of the Poles is needed for the foreign press, as well as for German propaganda purposes.’ I was directed to go to Gleiwitz with five or six SD men and wait there until I received a code word from Heydrich indicating that the attack should take place.

My instructions were to seize the radio station and to hold it long enough to permit a Polish-speaking German, who would be put at my disposal, to broadcast a speech in Polish. Heydrich told me that this speech should state that the time had come for the conflict between the Germans and the Poles and that the Poles should get together and strike down any Germans from whom they met resistance. Heydrich also told me at this time that he expected an attack on Poland by Germany in a few days.


Map of German-Polish frontier in 1939.

“3. I went to Gleiwitz and waited there a fortnight. Then I requested permission of Heydrich to return to Berlin but was told to stay in Gleiwitz. Between the 25th and 31st of August I went to see Heinrich Müller, head of the Gestapo, who was then nearby at Oppeln. In my presence Müller discussed with a man named Mehlhorn plans for another border incident, in which it should be made to appear that Polish soldiers were attacking German troops …. Germans in the approximate strength of a company were to be used. Muller stated that he had 12 or 13 condemned criminals who were to be dressed in Polish uniforms and left dead on the ground at the scene of the incident to show that they had been killed while attacking. For this purpose they were to be given fatal injections by a doctor employed by Heydrich. Then they were also to be given gunshot wounds. After the assault members of the press and other persons were to be taken to the spot of the incident. A police report was subsequently to be prepared.

“4. Müller told me that he had an order from Heydrich to make one of those criminals available to me for the action at Gleiwitz. The code name by which he referred to these criminals was ‘Canned Goods.’

“5. The incident at Gleiwitz in which I participated was carried out on the evening preceding the German attack on Poland. As I recall, war broke out on the 1st of September 1939. At noon on the 31st of August I received by telephone from Heydrich the code word for the attack which was to take place at 8 o’clock that evening. Heydrich said, ‘In order to carry out this attack, report to Müller for “Canned Goods.”‘ I did this and gave Müller instructions to deliver the man near the radio station. I received this man and had him laid down at the entrance to the station. He was alive, but he was completely unconscious. I tried to open his eyes. I could not recognize by his eyes that he was alive, only by his breathing. I did not see the shot wounds, but a lot of blood was smeared across his face. He was in civilian clothes.

“6. We seized the radio station as ordered, broadcast a speech of 3 to 4 minutes over an emergency transmitter, fired some pistol shots, and left.”

And then “sworn to and subscribed to before Lieutenant Martin”.

Note that the simulated attack on the radio station is ordered already on August 10, whereas the Ribbentropp-Molotov pact was not signed until the 26th of August. It seems the prosecutors are wanting to show that it was pre-planned in order to emphasize the criminal nature of it. Heydrich tells Naujocks that the purpose is to create something for German propaganda and for the foreign press ... but was it used for that? No.

Who were the five or six SD men who accompanied him? Why aren't they named? Pointing out that a Polish-speaking German was going to be put at his disposal to broadcast the message over the radio transmitter seems an unnecessary apendage.

After two weeks of waiting, Naujocks goes to see Gestapo chief Heinrich Müller and hears a discussion with a man named Mehlhorn about another planned incident in which it should be made to appear that Polish soldiers were attacking German troops. Twelve or thirteen condemned criminals were to be dressed in Polish uniforms and left dead on the ground. But rather than just shooting them, they were to be given “fatal injections” by a doctor employed by Heydrich, and then given gunshot wounds. Afterwards, members of the press were to be taken to the spot and shown the dead bodies. Do we have any reports of this? No.

Müller told Naujocks he had been ordered by Heydrich to make one of those condemned criminals available to him for Gleiwitz. On the 31st of August, Naujocks reported to Mueller again and requested his one “dead man” be delivered near to the radio station. The man who was delivered was still alive, but unconscious. Naujocks saw no gunshot wounds on the man and he, Naujocks, did not shoot him. But also, this man was not wearing a Polish uniform as previously determined, but was dressed in civilian clothes!

He then said “they” (wearing Polish uniforms?) broadcast a message of 3 to 4 minutes over the emergency transmitter … fired some shots, and left.

Identical to Holocaust survivor stories that had to be partially dreamed up by Nuremberg prosecutors (even to the “fatal injections” by Nazi doctors), this story doesn't hold together and doesn't sound like the kind of plan intelligent Germans would come up with. As pointed out above, it was totally unnecessary. It was only of value to the Nuremberg prosecutors who needed some believable German aggression against Poland for their “Crimes against Peace” charge.

But the Nuremberg prosecutors were accusing the SD of carrying out a crime against peace by staging so-called border incidents before the outbreak of the [German-Polish] war to give Hitler an excuse for starting the war. However, as the defense for the SD showed, nothing of the sort was carried out by the pertinent departments (Amt. III and VI). Naujocks explained this away by saying it was a personal request made to him by Reinhard Heydrich. No one in the appropriate SD departments had any knowledge of such an operation.


Background Information on Alfred Naujocks Born in Kiel in 1911, where he studied engineering. As is said in the affidavit, he became a member of the SS in 1931, and the SD in 1934. In 1941, with the rank of SS Sturmbannfuehrer, he was dismissed from the SD after disputing one of Reinhard Heydrich's orders. He was demoted and had to serve in the Waffen-SS on the Eastern Front. In 1943, due to his health, he was sent to the West, where he served as an economic administrator for the troops in Belgium. These experiences may have soured him and made him want to look after himself first when the opportunity arose. Because...in November of 1944, Naujocks surrendered or “deserted”—turned himself over to U.S. forces—who placed him in detention as a possible war criminal. He is said to have “escaped custody” after the war, but he signed the Nuremberg affidavit on November 20, 1945 – the day before testimony at the war crimes trial started. Was he in custody at that time, and was he released following the carrying out that service for the United States prosecutors?

Naujocks turned up later as a businessman in Hamburg operating under his own name, and later sold his story to a newspaper, under the title “The Man Who Started The War.” All this occurred very much in the open. He died of a heart attack in 1966 in Hamburg without ever being interviewed by a historian. Strange.


Summary of what H.S. Hegner wrote

The writer H.S. Hegner, aka Harry Wilde, included an account of the Gleiwitz incident from the Polish/Jewish propaganda point of view in his book Die Reichskanzlei 1933-1945. Since no one else has done so, (realize that there exists no official version with respect to this subject—not in the French Yellow Book [of diplomatic documents] about the war, nor in Churchill's Memoirs) Hegner's has become the most widely quoted reference for Gleiwitz, in spite of the fact that it differs in important ways from the Naujocks affidavit.

A summary of Hegner's version was included in Spanish revisionist Joachin Bochaca's Los Crimenes de los “Buenos” (The Crimes of the “Good Guys”), 1982, quoted below.

Heinrich Mueller, a high functionary in the Gestapo, had been tasked (by someone, perhaps Hitler) with concocting an official motive for Germany's declaring war on Poland. A hundred prisoners from German concentration camps were taken to the city of Oppeln, next to the Polish frontier. These men were put into German SS uniforms and posted near the frontier. There they were surprise-attacked by German soldiers dressed in turn in Polish uniforms, who pounced on the poor prisoners -- the faux SS -- and murdered them. That was part one.

Once this was done, the Germans in their Polish uniforms next headed toward the Polish frontier and, in passing, occupied and burned their own German customs post in Hohenlinde. Next, an alleged agent of the Gestapo named Naujocks, in command of German soldiers disguised as members of a Polish patriotic paramilitary organization -- a detail that Hegner omits to mention -- attacked the German radio station in Gleiwitz.

In the Gleiwitz operation there was only one fatality, which Müller conveniently took care of. It was of a prisoner wearing a Polish military uniform, who had been rendered unconscious by an injection and was afterwards executed in the course of the action.


Differences between Hegner and Naujocks:

One hundred prisoners instead of twelve or thirteen.

Heinrich Müller concocts the fake incident, rather than Reinhard Heydrich

Says the Customs House in Hohenlinde was burned, while Naujocks doesn't even mention Hohenlinde.

Naujocks is said to be a member of the Gestapo rather than the SS and SD.

Naujocks commands “German soldiers” rather than “a few SD men.”

The single prisoner at Gleiwitz was dressed in a Polish military uniform rather than civilian clothes.

The prisoner was not given a fatal injection, but only to render him unconscious, and was executed by the Germans, while Naujocks says he did not shoot him.

This is all reminiscent of rumors and stories that are passed around—the details change in ways that make it something quite different. Downright lies are also added to make it a more interesting or more useful story for the teller. Since there is no official record to go by, it becomes “anything goes” … and what is found on the Internet proves that out. The "Gleiwitz False Flag" is a fabrication invented for Nuremberg and there is nothing more to it than that.

Background on H.S. Hegner, aka Harry Wilde

Harry Paul Schulze was born on July 16, 1899 in Zwickau, to Clara Hegner and Paul Schulze, a butcher. He became a journalist and author under the pseudonyms Harry Schulze-Wilde, Harry Schulze-Hegner and H.S. Hegner.

In his youth he apprenticed as a businessman, but in the1920's he went on his own as a city tour guide in Erfurt and Weimar. He became involved in the German leftist youth movement; becoming a member of German Labor Youth. He then became involved with the Christian Revolutionaries under the leadership of the leftist, Pleivier. Schulze was a member of the communist party until 1932. In 1933, the Hitler government jailed him for suspicious activity.

He managed to run away to Dresden, where he had an aunt; then, pretending to be a representative for a publisher, made his way to Prague. There he met Comintern representatives Willi Muenzenberg and Johannes Becher. They sent him to Amsterdam to check out the story of Marinus van der Lubbe, who was found guilty of starting the Reichstag Fire, which occurred in February 1933..

In Amsterdam Hegner-Schulze became close friends with Dutchman Jef Last, and together they wrote a book about von der Lubbe, which came out in 1939. Their friendship was of a nature that indicated a homosexual relationship. After the war, Hegner-Schulze wrote a book about National Socialism against homosexuality with the title (in English): The Fate of the Dammed. Wilde also lived in France, Belgium and Luxembourg, before fleeing to Switzerland in 1942.

After the war—He founded a magazine in 1947 in Munich called (in English) Echo of the Week. He also wrote biographies for the publishing house Rowohlt, under the name Harry Wilde, including a monograph about Walther Rathenau, the German-Jewish diplomat of the Weimar regime. What he wrote suggested suppressed homosexual desires in Rathenau. In 1959, his book Die Reichskanzlei 1933-1945 came out in Germany. As best I can gather, this is where his account of the Gleiwitz incident first appeared. Later he wrote books on Rosa Luxemburg and Leon (Lev) Trotsky.

From this point on, Hegner led a secluded private life with his daughter, Cordelia, while at the same time he had a boyfriend, Joachim Klose. He is categorized as a historical journalist … heavy on the stori part. One critic stated: “Where the real history ends, and where the stories of the author Hegner, alias Schulze-Wilde, begins, no reader can tell.”


What more is left to be said?

Where are pictures of the dead man found at the radio station? The Nazis would surely have photographed the scene to document the “Polish crime.” Where are the newspaper headlines and the newsreels that are said to have been produced for the same purpose? Every false flag operation has to have these. Gunther Kumel has stated that neither Hitler, nor Goebbels, nor any other official made use of the Gleiwitz incident to vindicate the attack on Poland.

The Gleiwitz incident, in which a gang of Polish irregulars occupied a German radio station on the frontier before being chased away, could not have triggered the German invasion of Poland a few hours later. By March 1939, Polish atrocities against the German minority had reached peaks unknown before. Ethnic Germans were fleeing into the woods to prevent being murdered. Seventy thousand reached Germany and were placed in camps. How many others fled to friends and relatives? The number is not known. As Germans crossed the border, the Polish Military shot at them with live ammunition, killing many. Polish artillery shot at German civilian aircraft heading for East Prussia. The Poles had prepared lists of all ethnic Germans and started to kill them in the first days of September (Bloody Sunday is an example).

Since everyone in Germany and Europe knew these facts, there was no need for an additional faked provocation. What was necessary for the Allies at Nuremberg, however, was a way to bury the Polish provocations that were aimed at forcing Germany to attack. Turning all the Polish aggressive acts into “false flags” that were really carried out by Germany to fool the world, is the solution they came up with. Since the victors were then in total control, they had no trouble pushing through anything they wished. They are still in control and still keeping it in place.

The real aggressor was Poland, and it's guarantors in case of war with Germany—France and England. Those three are the nations truly guilty of “crimes against peace.”

References:

1. http://www.german-views.de/2012/01/27/o ... cy-part-1/

2. http://carolynyeager.net/ein-anderer-hi ... -decisions and http://carolynyeager.net/hitlers-final- ... josef-beck

3. http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/ ... GlenI.html

4. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Wilde

5. https://portal.dnb.de/opac.htm?method=s ... osition=10

6. http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/ ... ITLER1.htm (Hitler’s speech on Sept. 1)

7. http://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/ ... ld-war-ii/

8. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=67047739

and:
http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Gleiwitz&TheStartOfWW2-GlenI.html
Gleiwitz and the Start of WW2
By Joaquin Bochaca
Digging for the Truth About the 'Gleiwitz Incident' And Who Started WWII
By JOAQUIN BOCHACA - Thanks Glen I
From the Barnes Review, Sept-Oct 2006, pp 42-45: Series on "Authentic World War II History"

IN THIS ARTICLE FROM the eye-opening book Los Crimenes de los "Buenos" [The Crimes of the "Good Guys," 1982], SENOR JOAQUIN BOCHACA sets the record straight on an incident whose truth, even today and in expert Revisionist circles, is largely unknown. It occurred on the cusp of World War II, on the night of August 31-September 1, 1939. In fact, it was the event the court historians claim really started WWII.

BACKGROUND
As in the case of the Reichstag fire of 1933, and with equal duplicity, the implacable foreign enemies of Germany accused Hitler of creating what today would be called a "false flag" operation, a "supposedly Polish (but actually German) attack on a German radio station," in this case to start World War II. Hitler "needed an incident," we are taught, and "needed a Polish attack." This would then justify his supposedly long-planned invasion of Poland, which happened on September 1, 1939. Hitler's enemies further imply (by omitting facts that TBR now reveals) that it was an entirely peaceful, good-neighborly Poland that Hitler attacked, an intimidated nation that only had sought British and French aid against a threatening "Nazi juggernaut."
In point of fact, there had indeed been a peaceful and well-run Poland, from 1926-1935, governed by Poland's national independence hero, Marshall Joseph Pilsudski. He had sought excellent relations with Germany, and in 1934 signed a non-aggression pact with the Third Reich. Some have suspected that Pilsudski was actually poisoned in 1935 because of his friendliness toward Germany; he died with suddenness of what was called liver cancer. Pilsudski had chosen peace with Germany after contemplating the implications of the long, defensive Maginot Line into which France was pouring unheard-of billions, and became convinced that France would never actually go on the offensive against Germany; hence Paris's offer of a military guarantee to Poland would prove useless. How right the late Pilsudski was proven to have been in 1939. But in 1939 he was gone and the ultra-nationalists under Gen. Rydz-Smigly were in power, and had convinced themselves that England and France would invade Germany the moment Poland and Germany went to war.
The famous, supposed "Nazi false flag" operation was the August 31-September 1, 1939, attack supposedly by pseudo-Poles who were "really" German commandoes in disguise, on a German radio station near the German border city of Gleiwitz. We are taught that it was Hitler's excuse for going to war, a war in which tens of millions would die. In point of fact, the evidence for the almost universally accepted version of the Gleiwitz radio station attack has always been of the most tenuous kind. It consists of the "confession" in 1945 of a German SS officer, Alfred Naujocks, then in the hands of the Allies. Naujocks was obviously trying to survive at the time, and offering Allied propaganda officials the statement or "confession" they demanded could mean the difference between freedom or long years of prison, torture or perhaps hanging. Adding urgency to Naujock's considerations was the fact that thousands of SS had already been savagely murdered in Allied death camps such as Neuengamme.
As an [sic] historical prelude, on March 31, 1939, England and France gave an unconditional guarantee, a true "blank check," to Poland to defend it militarily and march with it on Germany. It has been called a "blank check" because it put no conditions on Poland; Poland could say or do whatever it wanted to the German Reich or to its own Germanic minority of 1.2 million. Ultra-nationalist hotheads and mobs in Poland now wanted directly to provoke a war wherein the three countries would attack the Reich simultaneously; then Poland, so went the notion, would annex half of Germany.
This would fulfill Marshall Rydz-Smigly's personal dream of trotting on horseback as a conqueror through the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin and watering his steed in Berlin's Spree River. This supposed three-nation attack on Germany would also let Poland fulfill a Pan-Slavist dream of "retaking" German lands that, a thousand years before, had indeed been lightly settled by Slavs. (Berlin, Leipzig, Dresden and other Slavic-named German cities in the east actually were tiny Slavic villages a millennium ago. The Germans actually had been there before the Poles, but had moved south into the collapsing Roman empire 700 years earlier, leaving what is now eastern Germany nearly uninhabited.)
With the new Polish clique seeing war as eminently desirable for the creation of Greater Poland and the historic Slavist chance to reverse 10 centuries of German eastward development, civilian mobs (and loose-cannon factions within the Polish military), urged on by inflammatory press reports, felt free, after the signing of the British-French unconditional guarantee, to harass, boycott, beat, pillage and even massacre ethnically German Polish civilians whom the 1920 Treaty of Versailles had drawn inside Poland's new borders. All these provocations were designed to needle Adolf Hitler into "taking the bait" and starting a war. Hitler did go to war, but not until after five months of official protests, and increasing warnings to Warsaw, during the spring and summer of 1939.

THE ATTACK ON GLEIWITZ STATION -- THE "GOOD GUYS" START WWII:
We would like now to refer, even if very summarily, to what would be -- and I employ the conditional tense deliberately -- the first war crime of World War II, chronologically speaking. I am referring to the attack on the radio station at Gleiwitz. Hungarian author Joseph Sueli refers to the episode in the following manner:
(QUOTE)On the night of August 31, I was listening to Radio Gleiwitz, a German radio station just next to the Polish border. Suddenly, a few minutes after midnight, the musical program stopped and excited voices announced, in German, that the city of Gleiwitz had been invaded by irregular Polish troops, who were just then approaching the radio station.
Then suddenly there was silence. I kept the radio on and at two o'clock in the morning [now the first of September] Radio Gleiwitz began broadcasting in Polish. Radio Cologne [from the other end of Germany] announced that German troops were now rousting out the invaders of Gleiwitz.
At six in the morning the German troops invaded Poland. Some days after the war began I read a tiny paragraph in the English press, according to which the Germans asserted, among other things, that the Poles had, in fact, begun the war, invading Gleiwitz in the wee hours of the morning of September 1.(UNQUOTE)
Here is a summary of the version of the incident put out by author H.S. Hegner:
(QUOTE)Heinrich Mueller, a high functionary in the Gestapo, had been tasked (by someone, perhaps Hitler) with concocting an official motive for Germany's declaring war on Poland. A hundred prisoners from German concentration camps were taken to the city of Oppeln, next to the Polish frontier. These men were put into German SS uniforms and posted near the frontier. There they were surprise-attacked by German soldiers dressed in turn in Polish uniforms, who pounced on the poor prisoners -- the faux SS -- and murdered them. That was part one.
Once this was done, the Germans in their Polish uniforms next headed toward the Polish frontier and, in passing, occupied and burned their own German customs post in Hohenlinde. Next, an alleged agent of the Gestapo named Naujocks, in command of German soldiers disguised as members of a Polish patriotic paramilitary organization -- a detail that Hegner omits to mention -- attacked the German radio station in Gleiwitz.
In the Gleiwitz operation there was only one fatality, which Mueller conveniently took care of. It was of a prisoner wearing a Polish military uniform, who had been rendered unconscious by an injection and was afterwards executed in the course of the action.(UNQUOTE)
Now let's see what the Germans had to say about it:
(QUOTE)August 31. 4. Communication from the chief of police in Gleiwitz. The Gleiwitz radio station was assaulted by irregular Polish troops who, for a moment, succeeded in occupying the station. The irregulars were chased out by the German Frontier Police. During their defense [of the station] one Polish irregular was mortally wounded.
5. Communication from a representative of the town of Troppau: In the night of August 31/September 1, the customs house of Hohenlinde was attacked by Polish irregulars who succeeded in occupying it; but thanks to a counterattack by the auxiliary troops (Waffen-SS), the irregulars were routed (UNQUOTE)
If we compare Hegner's text with the official German text we will see that that whole convoluted action makes no sense. It was not witnessed by anyone -- that is, anyone neutral -- and there were no photographs taken by German propaganda of the SS men in their purported disguise as Polish "irregulars" -- not a well pulled-off false flag. We must assume that no such photographs exist.
On the other hand, in the official German document there are mentioned fully 44 acts of Polish aggression over the six days and nights before the German invasion (about 4 a.m. on September 1). In this text it is clearly stated that the attackers did not wear Polish uniforms, but that they were irregular troops, based in Hohenlinde and in Gleiwitz. And finally, according to the German documents detailing Polish prewar attacks, the post of Hohenlinde was not burned, but merely occupied.
If we compare the two texts -- that of Hegner and the official German report -- we will see that:
1) If the Germans had disguised prisoners in SS uniforms and afterwards killed them, to show outraged Germans that their boys had been done in, there can be no reasonable doubt that it would have been with the goal of making the event known, whether by photographs or by written documents. Neither of the two incidents listed in the German version quoted above, Hohenlinde or Gleiwitz, nor the other 42 incidents between August 25 and September 1 contained in the Germans' Weissbuch [White Book], mentioned that even a single German in the SS had been killed.
2) The official German sources mention the irregular nature of the attacking troops, and so define the single Polish fatality mentioned in both their account and Hegner's. It is simple logic that if this report had been "cooked up" by members of the Gestapo -- as Hegner claims -- it too would have been with the intention of making it public. In fact, the only writer affiliated with the Allies who has tried to sell this bizarre story of prisoners disguised as Germans and Germans disguised as Poles is Hegner, who may have his own agenda. There exists no official version with respect to this subject -- not in the French Yellow Book about the war nor in Churchill's Memoirs.
The only versions we are served up today are the gospel of the aforementioned Hegner and three or four additional authors who cite Hegner as their source.
The clearest explanation is this: irregular Polish troops -- probably not under the command of the regular Polish army -- made an incursion into German territory. This constituted the first two war crimes of World War II, both by "the Allies," because it is a war crime to ever use irregular, non-uniformed troops -- this invites attacks on any suspicious civilians [See page 51 of this issue for the inevitable consequences of such actions. -- Ed.] -- and another to attack a country when a declared state of war does not exist.
In this whole confused affair only one thing emerges with clarity: that in the hours preceding the outbreak of hostilities there were numerous altercations between Polish irregulars and regular or auxiliary Germans (SS Field Gendarmes, customs police etc) and that these altercations all took place on the soil of Germany.
We must not forget one continuing discrepancy as to time. The Hungarian writer Sueli reported hearing, at 12 midnight, Gleiwitz station saying it was under attack; at two in the morning he says he heard Radio Gleiwitz broadcast in Polish; a little later he heard another station, Radio Cologne, announce that the attack was being repelled.
However, the official German communique gives 9 p.m. (on August 31) as the hour of the attack, while Hegner affirms that it was at 8 p.m. Why does the German communique not describe the attack as being in the early morning hours of September 1, as does Suelis's account? We are inclined to suppose that, when on the eve of a war 44 separate belligerent actions are recorded along a frontier as long as the German/Polish border of 1939, one of them could have been omitted, especially if there had been more than one attack in roughly the same place.
We have wished to call particular attention to these events in Gleiwitz/Hohenlinde because there has been an effort, at the expense of real history, to incorporate Hegner's yarn, later repeated by other authors who cited him, into the official history by the well-known publicity tactic of systematic repetition. Eventually such a myth then becomes "a well-known fact."
JOAQUIN BOCHACA, ESQ. is undoubtedly the premier Revisionist author in the Spanish language world, which features Revisionist writers virtually unknown to English-speakers (although not to Europeans). Bochaca, an attorney with a uniquely hard-hitting, clear, and masculine prose, is also a literary theorist and translator of Ezra Pound from the English and Hermann Hesse from the German. He also speaks and translates French, but above all else, this Barcelona resident is a lover of Catalan and of his native Catalonia.

(sidebar) Alfred Naujocks -
Was He the Man Who Started WWII?
BORN IN 1911, SS-STURMBANNFUEHRER ALFRED HELMUT NAUJOCKS (pictured) was, according to court historians, ultimately responsible for World War II in Europe. According to the establishment version of history, on August 31, 1939, Naujocks and his men, disguised as Poles, allegedly led a "false flag" attack on the German-language Gleiwitz (Gli-wice) radio station (shown left) in Poland, which led to bogus reports of Poles overrunning the station as part of a concentrated series of 21 faked anti-German attacks on the German-Polish border.
In order to make the attack scene convincing, the Germans allegedly brought in Franciszek Honiok, a German known for sympathizing with the Poles, who had been arrested the previous day by the Gestapo. According to the establishment story, Honiok was dressed to look like a Polish insurgent; then killed by lethal injection, his body was given gunshot wounds and left at the scene so he looked as though he had been killed while attacking the station. His corpse was presented as proof of the attack to the police and press.
At the same time as the Gleiwitz attack, we are supposed to believe there were other incidents orchestrated by Germany along the Polish-German border, such as house torching in the Polish Corridor. The entire project, dubbed Operation Himmler and comprising 21 incidents in all, supposedly was intended to give the appearance of Polish aggression against Germany.
In November of 1944, Naujocks deserted and turned himself over to U.S. forces -- who placed him in detention as a possible war criminal.
In his affidavit presented at the Nuremberg Trials, Naujocks declared the attack against the Gleiwitz Radio Tower was under orders from Heydrich and Heinrich Mueller, chief of the Gestapo. After the war he worked as a businessman in Hamburg, where he tried to get rich by peddling his story to the media as "the man who started the war." In fact, his story was phony.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.
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Re: Gleiwitz

Postby Hektor » Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:49 pm

Was there any reports or reflection on such an incident in the German or Polish media and literature of that time?
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