propaganda credibilty loss / Marines pose with SS runes

[Breker]

After awhile the false stories about the German SS lose their impact. These men certainly aren't bothered.



Read classic propaganda and use of 'directed history' in story here:

'Fury from Auschwitz survivors as U.S. Marines sniper squad is seen in Afghanistan with 'SS' flag ...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1luxU6izn
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[Carolyn Yeager]

In this story in the Daily Mail, International Zionism's low-level employee Mikey Weinstein is not in any position of authority about the issue at hand, but he is quoted extensively. The purpose of that is to try to build up a reputation for this Jewish person and his ridiculous organization. Does this photo prove that the Nazis have taken over America? To some it will.

In fact, I'd say on re-reading that Mikey sent the story to The Mail, along with his comments. So The Mail called a Marine Commander for comments. That's called being pro-active.

Looking at this further, the headline says: Fury from Auschwitz Survivors as Marines seen with SS flag .....
Yet, in the story it reads: Mr Weinstein said he has been flooded with calls from former Marines offended by the photo and from one member of his group who is a survivor of the concentration camp in Auschwitz, Poland.


This allows the article writer to give all the basic facts about the Holocaust again.

[Haldan]

These marines disgrace the SS.
-haldan

[Inquisitor]

"...fury from Auschwitz survivors..."

Does it ever occur to these people that not everything related to WW2 Germany is about THEM? The overwhelming majority of nearly one-million individuals who served in the Waffen-SS never set foot in any concentration-camp, let alone concenred themselves with Jews and Jewish deportations one way or the other. Read the memoirs of Paul Hausser, Hubert Meyer, Otto Weidinger, Kurt Meyer, Rudolf Lehmann/Ralf Tiemann, Otto Kumm, Leon Degrelle, etc, etc. These former member of the SS have collectively penned thousands and thousands of pages of recollections of thier WW2 experiences...and Auschwitz, nor "Aschwitz survivors" even warrant a mention therein!

Again, it's not all about YOU, you arrogant narcissists!

[Mkk]

Inquisitor, you are completely right. I remember Leon Degrelle denying the gas chambers and so on in some of his writings.

As for the article:
Can't these boys have a bit of fun? Who did it hurt, exactly?

The article alleges all the usual "war crimes" to the SS. I'm not saying the SS never did anything wrong, certainly not, but what the allies did was much worse but yet they were never put on trial. Some incidents have been falsely ascribed to the Germans, such as Oradour which seems to actually have been the fault of partisans.

One comment stands out:

loads and loads of jewish americans fought in WW2 knowing they would be given no mercy if captured by the SS

Western POWs were generally treat well, and I've never seen it alleged that Western Jewish POWs were singled out for extermination.

[Inquisitor]

The article alleges all the usual "war crimes" to the SS. I'm not saying the SS never did anything wrong, certainly not, but what the allies did was much worse but yet they were never put on trial. Some incidents have been falsely ascribed to the Germans, such as Oradour which seems to actually have been the fault of partisans.

I have studied the SS/Waffen-SS for years, and done so by seeking out literature and research NOT utterly run-through with Allied/Jewish propaganda, etc. If one reads, for instance, the firsthand accounts, memoirs and the like from Waffen-SS personnel, they almost invariably admit that excesses, or "atrocities" did happen, though they were extremely rare, often taken completely out of any realistic context by "historians" and more often distorted out of all proportion. The so-called "Malmedy-Massace" is a prime example, and in military cirlces right up there with "holocaust" tales in WW2 lore. Yet to the day, the "official" tale, as told by the Allies, is hotly disputed, even by several brave mainstream historians, such as Michael Reynolds. Indeed, Reynolds, who has written extensively on the Waffen-SS, and appereas to otherwise buy most of the standard anti-NS baloney(holocaustia, etc.) is surprisingly quick to defend the W-SS, and points out various "atrocities" committed AGAINST the Waffen-SS by partisans, Allied soldiers, etc.

As with virtually EVERYTHING else surrounding WW2, a great deal of historical revision is necessary, in ALL areas, if anything resembling truth is ever to be known!

[Wings]

As far as I have been able to find out, the SS had far higher ethics and deportment and honor than any of the factions against which they faught, whatever small wablles or mis-haps as may have occurred.


Looting, rape, murder of civillians, maltreatment of Prisoners, were tacitly permitted or even encouraged by all of the 'allies' of the US-CCCP-UK combine, some more than others, of course.

None of these were tacitly tolerated by the SS or by any other portion of the German Military.

[Wings]

These marines disgrace the SS.
-haldan

I doubt any of the Marines pictured have any understanding whatever of the SS.

It would likely break their Hearts, if they did.

[Mkk]

As far as I have been able to find out, the SS had far higher ethics and deportment and honor than any of the factions against which they faught, whatever small wablles or mis-haps as may have occurred.


Looting, rape, murder of civillians, maltreatment of Prisoners, were tacitly permitted or even encouraged by all of the 'allies' of the US-CCCP-UK combine, some more than others, of course.

None of these were tacitly tolerated by the SS or by any other portion of the German Military.

Indeed. Rape was punishable by death in the German army. Not to say the soldiers didn't have *cough* relations with the local populace. In France alone it is estimated 200,000 illegitimate births in 1942 (or atleast that is how I follow the wording of the following: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... d-War.html ) Same in the Netherlands. Here is a photo of German troops entering that country:

And in the Ukraine:


It is common knowledge that the Eastern populations were very welcoming of the Axis armies. Even the Soviet reports admit that. Over a million of them fought in the German army.

[Wings]

Can we name any Civillian Populations who did not welcome the German Army?

Far as I know, the only people who did not, were communists/zionists/bolshevics, their minnions/lackies/collaborators...or, the credulous and mis-informed, who had been entirely duped by them.

[Wings]

The U.S. Soldiers of to-day, posing with the 'SS' Flag, represents such an irony.


I do not question the sincerity and courage of our Troops.

I do recognise, that as individuals, they are mis-informed about History, and, mis-informed in ways which tend to prevent them from ( being open to ) learning....just as is the case with people in the U.S. generally...and, by now, with people in europe, generally.

I have had no qualms now for a long time to say and understand, that we, the US, were totally on the wrong 'side' in WWI and WWII.

And everything which has occured since WWII, has been just more of it.

[Mkk]

Can we name any Civillian Populations who did not welcome the German Army?

Not even France. Here is a picture of a Franciste rally:

There were several thousand French volunteers, such as these:

Dutch legion in Amsterdam: