Yitzhak Arad's 'Killing Operations' in Treblinka

[offline Sailor]

Roberto posted on another board:

About the initial period of the camp’s operation, from July 23 to August 28, 1942, Yitzhak Arad writes the following on page 87 f. of Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka. The Operation Reinhard Death Camps:

"During the first five weeks of the killing operation in Treblinka, between July 23 and August 28, […]"

So I asked Roberto:

What "killing operation"? What is the man [Arad] talking about?

All I got from Roberto were some mocking comments about my age. And nothing about Yitzhak Arad's "killing operations".

Does anyone on this forum know what Arad wrote about the killing methods in Treblinka?

fge

[offlineMalle]

"During the first five weeks of the killing operation in Treblinka, between July 23 and August 28, about 245,000 Jews were deported there from the Warsaw ghetto and Warsaw district; from Radom district, 51,000; from Lublin district, 16,500, bringing the total in this period to about 312,500."

Quoted in "BELZEC, SOBIBOR, TREBLINKA - the Operation Reinhard Death Camps Indiana University Press - Yitzhak Arad, 1987. ISBN 0-253-3429-7" from:
Tatiana Berenstein, B.Z.I.H., Warsaw, 1957, No. 21 B.Z.I.H., 1952, No. 1(3); B.Z.I.H., 1955, No. 15-16.

[offline Hannover]

All I got from Roberto were some mocking comments about my age. And nothing about Yitzhak Arad's "killing operations".

This would be the same 'Roberto' that has been thoroughly sliced & diced at this forum.

His loopy positions and tactics are merely a case of the irrational arguing the impossible. See more on 'Roberto' here:

'R. Muehlenkamp: 'gas chambers' were hosed down, so no cyanide'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=3706

'Roberto Muehlenkamp debunked on 3.5kg of coke cremations'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=420

'Roberto Muehlenkamp: no fuel required for Auschwitz ovens'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=3703

'Roberto Muehlenkamp shredded on 'gassings' & cyanide'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=224'

Also search this forum for 'Muehlenkamp' and 'Cortagravatas' (aka 'Roberto') for more.

- Hannover

[offline Sailor]

I still dont know what Arad meant with "killing operation" in Treblinka.

Was he talking about gassing with diesel exhaust? In the meantime I checked for his book with our local library. They don't have a copy, but it will be sent from Vacaville within a week.

Roberto is very pissed with me now for posting this on this forum. But the man obviously did not know when he quoted Arad what Arad meant with "killing operations".

Now all hoaxers on that forum are angry with me for asking. Jesus Christ!

fge

[offline Hannover]

I still dont know what Arad meant with "killing operation" in Treblinka.

Was he talking about gassing with diesel exhaust? In the meantime I checked for his book with our local library. They don't have a copy, but it will be sent from Vacaville within a week.

Roberto is very pissed with me now for posting this on this forum. But the man obviously did not know when he quoted Arad what Arad meant with "killing operations".

Now all hoaxers on that forum are angry with me for asking. Jesus Christ!

fge

They can only be angry with themselves. Afterall, they believe in the impossible and are made to look foolish when they try to defend the undefendable. What a position to be in. What a bunch of schmucks they are.

- Hannover

[offline Haldan]

I still dont know what Arad meant with "killing operation" in Treblinka.

Was he talking about gassing with diesel exhaust? In the meantime I checked for his book with our local library. They don't have a copy, but it will be sent from Vacaville within a week.

Roberto is very pissed with me now for posting this on this forum. But the man obviously did not know when he quoted Arad what Arad meant with "killing operations".

Now all hoaxers on that forum are angry with me for asking. Jesus Christ!

fge

The question I ask myself Sailor, is Roberto even taking the time to read the material from the author which he quotes? It is one thing to quote a bunch of gobblygook and it is another to actually read it.

-haldan

[offline Hannover]

The question I ask myself; Sailor, is Roberto is even taking the time to read the material from the author which he quotes? It is one thing to quote a bunch of gobblygook and it is another to actually read it.

-haldan

That is the robotic behavior of those who claim to believe in the 'holocaust'. They simply spew sentences without thinking about what they are saying. And that is what makes 'holocaust' Revisionism superior in every way.

Revisionists take what is given about the storyline and demolish it with science, rational thought, and logic. Judeo-supremacists rely on a desire to dominate, faith, superstition, religion, and a cult-like obedience to stories which are laughable and utterly impossible.

- Hannover

[offline Sailor]

The library called me today, they had Arad's book for me.

The book seems to be a copy of the German Adalbert Rückerl's NS-Vernichtungslager.
And it seems to me, that the quality of the book does not even get close to Mattogno's "Treblinka". Arad apparently never heard of the main Treblinka eye witness Yankel Wiernik.

Concerning the killing opration in Treblinka, the man stated on page 42:

A room attached to the building contained a diesel engine, which introduced the poisonous carbon monoxide gas through pipes into the chambers, and a generator, which supplied electricityto the entire camp.

There you have it, the 700,000 Jews in Treblinka were gassed with diesel exhaust fumes.

I don't think that Roberto, the passport German on the cesspool forum, ever read the book.

fge

[offlineLaurentz Dahl]

The library called me today, they had Arad's book for me.

The book seems to be a copy of the German Adalbert Rückerl's NS-Vernichtungslager.
And it seems to me, that the quality of the book does not even get close to Mattogno's "Treblinka". Arad apparently never heard of the main Treblinka eye witness Yankel Wiernik.

As you note, Rueckerl's very hard-to-get (at least outside of Germany) book is the prime source of Arad.

Wiernik is not mentioned much in the text itself, but if you look through the notes you will find him listed as a source on 20+ occassions.

[offlineLaurentz Dahl]

This is what Lubomyr Prytulak has to say on the person Yitzhak Arad:

Born Isaac Rudnicki in 1926 in Sifrana, Poland (today part of Lithuania). A fighter for thirty years, first as a Soviet partisan, then with the Palmach and the IDF. In view of the atrocities that can be laid at the feet of all the organizations for which he has borne arms, one expects that Yitzhak Arad has much innocent blood on his hands, which in Israel is not so much a bar to high public office as a prerequisite. Retired from the military in 1972 holding the post of Chief Education Officer with the rank of Brigadier General, and the same year given the administrative position of Director of Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, at which point it was recognized that his credentials as a terrorist-warrior needed to be bolstered by some credentials as a scholar.

And so Arad has been credited with a Ph.D. (on the subject of the Vilna Ghetto), but the year of receipt of the degree, the university which granted it, the thesis adviser who guided it, and where copies are available today ? these are things that are not widely reported. In view of the abysmal quality of Yitzhak Arad's writing and courtroom testimony, it is hard to keep from wondering whether a fair summary of him is that his education was rudimentary, and that his Ph.D. is a sham created to bolster his image as Director of Yad Vashem and his credibility as expert witness in show trials. His preference when testifying is to be given immunity from cross-examination, as he was in the Demjanjuk trial in Jerusalem in 1987.

Photographs and captions are from the autobiographical and uninformative and mercifully out of print: Yitzhak Arad, The Partisan: From the Valley of Death to Mount Zion, Holocaust Library, New York, 1979. Listed as Chairman of the Advisory Board of this Holocaust Library is Jewish-holocaust fabulist Alexander Donat, and as a member of the board, Jewish-holocaust fabulist Elie Wiesel.

http://web.archive.org/web/200511231028 ... /arad.html

Sounds like an unbiased, decent guy...