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by mdmguyon
Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:39 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: What made you first question the holocaust?
Replies: 73
Views: 35744

Re: What made you first question the holocaust?

What person said that 4 million died at Auschwitz and 6 million died overall? The Auschwitz 'historians' in charge of the Auschwitz Theme Park did. What is your source for them saying that 6 million died overall? Did they give a breakdown of the other 2 million? Some people said that 4 million died...
by mdmguyon
Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:43 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: What made you first question the holocaust?
Replies: 73
Views: 35744

Re: What made you first question the holocaust?

Clem wrote:For me it was first learning of the 3 million reduction of the death toll at Auschwitz but no concomitant reduction to the sacred 6 million figure.

What person said that 4 million died at Auschwitz and 6 million died overall?
by mdmguyon
Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:39 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Einsatzgruppen / Critique
Replies: 20
Views: 9538

Re: Einsatzgruppen / Critique

The Einsatzgruppen and the Holocaust Joseph Bishop The authorities maintaining the Auschwitz camp indeed ultimately responded by revising the numbers downward. Suddenly the four million murdered dropped to an official figure of a little over a million. This is where the overall Holocaust story unde...
by mdmguyon
Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:21 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: The Six Million, Six Million Times / beginning in 1869
Replies: 29
Views: 19863

Re: The Six Million, Six Million Times / beginning in 1869

I would love to have copies of the articles myself. Maybe a google search would show up some of the headlines. These can be found at many sites. One is at http://sixmillionmyth.blogspot.com/p/six-million-myth.html. There is a youtube video, also. The figure of 6 million after World War 1 referred t...
by mdmguyon
Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:55 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: SS confessions, why so useless?
Replies: 54
Views: 15291

Re: SS confessions, why so useless?

mdmguyon said: Although, in the Malmedy hearings, van Roden affirmed much of this ghostwritten article, he claimed not to have understood that his name would be attached to it and he regarded much of it as exaggerated, particularly the part about the destruction of testicles. And he would probably ...
by mdmguyon
Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:50 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: SS confessions, why so useless?
Replies: 54
Views: 15291

Re: SS confessions, why so useless?

Lt. Col. Ellis and Lt Perl of the Prosectution pleaded that it was difficult to obtain competant evidence. Perl told the court, "We had a tough case to crack and we had to use persuasive methods." He admitted to the court that the persuasive methods included various "expedients, incl...
by mdmguyon
Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:27 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: How should the Holocaust be debated?
Replies: 48
Views: 13218

Re: How should the Holocaust be debated?

Carolyn Yeager wrote:I put a lot of credence in shock value.

This worked for me. The person who introduced me to such topics was very outspoken about them and explicitly said that his approach used "shock value." But I think it depends on one's tolerance for uncertainty.
by mdmguyon
Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:10 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Denial of Armenian Genocide outlawed in France
Replies: 7
Views: 4614

Re: Denial of Armenian Genocide outlawed in France

http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/index.htm I believe the quote at the very end applies to some people on every side of every argument: "I have no problem with any religion as long as it remains about belief rather than absolute certainty. Belief is compatible with respect and tolerance for othe...
by mdmguyon
Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:00 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: question about Elie Wiesel's NIGHT ???
Replies: 30
Views: 8852

Re: question about Elie Wiesel's NIGHT ???

The whole book has to be accepted or rejected Truth and falsehood are too mixed for that to be feasible. otherwise we have different people accepting/rejecting different parts of it -- the confusion that has been reigning since the book was published in English in 1960. That's the price that anyone...
by mdmguyon
Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:37 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: How should the Holocaust be debated?
Replies: 48
Views: 13218

Re: How should the Holocaust be debated?

In my experience, the biggest obstacle in getting people to critically re-examine the holocaust is getting them past the idea that holocaust revisionists are anti-Semites, neo-Nazis or skinheads I had never known much about Paul Rassinier before starting to read his "Debunking the Genocide Myt...
by mdmguyon
Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:40 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: How many people believe the revisionist account?
Replies: 14
Views: 4411

Re: How many people believe the revisionist account?

six gun wrote:There are obvious difficulties in much of Europe with the laws preventing discussion of the subject.


My impression is that the laws against revisionism have increased the number of revisionists, even if not the number of those who are "out."
by mdmguyon
Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:45 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Natalia Karp, playing piano saved her life.
Replies: 3
Views: 1998

Re: Natalia Karp, playing piano saved her life.

I thought the death camps were such secrets that no one knew they would die, which was why no one resisted going to them.
by mdmguyon
Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:19 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: "Second" Report of Robert Jan Van Pelt
Replies: 31
Views: 7968

Re: "Second" Report of Robert Jan Van Pelt

Franciszek Piper said that the gas chambers were used to kill people only 20 to 30 minutes per day.
by mdmguyon
Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:29 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Raul Hilberg / Court Transcripts
Replies: 7
Views: 4097

Re: Court Transcripts

Yes, I can see how, in your last quote when asked if he knew of a report of physical evidence of mass homicide in a gas chamber, he's really squirming. This, as is the case with why he didn't come back to the second trial, is partly what I meant by him being a "weenie." He could have just ...

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