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by CercaTrova
Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:24 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker
Replies: 39
Views: 6394

Re: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker

CercaTrova, among the many disputes in the world, the "holocaust" is actually one of the easiest to debunk. As has been said several times in this thread already, it all comes down to the absence of mass graves and the absence of humongous gas chambers. Add to these facts that jews just a...
by CercaTrova
Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:18 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker
Replies: 39
Views: 6394

Re: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker

No. I don't see how you get that out of what I said. The relevant excerpt was from a speech apparently in late 1933 and the Night of the Long Knives was 30 June 1934. For the record, the Night of the Long Knives is well documented and I have no doubt it occured. Sloppy on my part, my apologies - I ...
by CercaTrova
Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:02 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker
Replies: 39
Views: 6394

Re: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker

Cerca Trova quotes Irving about using 'authentic documents'. Yes, but what he makes of them is simply bizarre in attempting to support his daft "holocaust lite". reference: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9988 Wow... I followed that thread and further links therein and it ...
by CercaTrova
Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:06 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker
Replies: 39
Views: 6394

Re: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker

(Which would tranlate in German to "vernichten") But No, it doesn't mean every soldier is that. What that means is that this army isn't capable to fight anymore. This can come into being by soldiers being captured, wounded, demoralized, deserting and of course also killed. Essentially it'...
by CercaTrova
Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:04 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker
Replies: 39
Views: 6394

Re: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker

It is also possible that the command and control function is eliminated and the army is no longer able to function as an army. Similarly for the intended fate of the German Austrians under the Habsburgs referred to in Mein Kampf . This is also supported by Hitler's use of German in the 1930s. In th...
by CercaTrova
Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:23 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker
Replies: 39
Views: 6394

Re: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker

Hannover, thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed response. Very interesting post. In spite of your wishful thinking you, cannot dismiss the utter lack of mass graves that are alleged. An alleged 11,000,000, CercaTrova, 11,000,000! Let me first reiterate that I don't have any particular ...
by CercaTrova
Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:50 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker
Replies: 39
Views: 6394

Re: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker

Those are valid points. There are contradictions all over the place. Yet Hitler did speak of "Vernichtung" and "Ausrottung", i.e. extermination and annihilation. it also doesn't seem very plausible to just brush that away with the argument that "he may have spoken these hars...
by CercaTrova
Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:02 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker
Replies: 39
Views: 6394

Re: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker

If the Posen speech is true and the recording accurate it can quite easily be defined as a rousing, motivational talk aimed at the troops who would be going into battle to do good work. Work that would require strength and backbone. Every commander worth his salt today, on the eve of battle gives h...
by CercaTrova
Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:59 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker
Replies: 39
Views: 6394

Re: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker

When I read the holocaust story, the physical description of how millions of jews were murdered and how their corpses were disposed of, I find it so unbelievable that even if the exterminationists were to find their "holy grail", evidence of a Hitler order to exterminate the Jews, my reac...
by CercaTrova
Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:52 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker
Replies: 39
Views: 6394

Re: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker

CercaTrova How will you interpret this words from the speech : " Most of you here know what it means when 100 corpses lie next to each other, when there are 500 or when there are 1,000 . To have endured this and at the same time to have remained a decent person — with exceptions due to human w...
by CercaTrova
Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:47 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker
Replies: 39
Views: 6394

Re: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker

The terms 'ausrotten' and 'vernichtung' are both used repeatedly in Hitler's Mein Kampf with reference to groups of people (armies, German-Austrians) where they do not refer to extermination. They refer to such things as military defeat and slavization. He also used 'vernichtung' in reference to ab...
by CercaTrova
Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:42 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker
Replies: 39
Views: 6394

Re: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker

'Hitler's Public [alleged] Holo-words & Dishonest Historians' https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=9038 I don't see that the blue texts completely reframe the red texts as innocent. It seems to me these other speeches give all the more credence to the idea that Hitler saw in the Jews a morta...
by CercaTrova
Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:14 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker
Replies: 39
Views: 6394

Re: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker

No human remains to back up the unfounded claims. Not a single enormous mass grave as alleged has ever been excavated, contents verified and shown. Not one. The storyline says 6M Jews & 5M others = 11M, now just think about that. Sure - but even revisionists admit to hundreds of thousands that ...
by CercaTrova
Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:38 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker
Replies: 39
Views: 6394

Re: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker

There's no doubt the Nazis used extremist language. But so did others: Churchill had favoured a strategy of attacking the civilian population centres from the air some 20 years before Hitler ordered such raids. Britain's war leader is quoted during the First World War as saying: " Perhaps the ...
by CercaTrova
Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:32 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker
Replies: 39
Views: 6394

Re: Posen speech revisited - I'm a native speaker

Thank you for all your responses. I will reply to your posts one by one so the thread won't get too confusing. Please forgive if that leads to my responses to earlier posts ommiting points made in later posts, I will try to simply answer chronologically. CercaTrova How will you interpret this words ...

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