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by SevenUp
Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:25 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Mass Graves / Serniki
Replies: 42
Views: 12607

Re: Mass Graves / Serniki

The forensic report is in the book chapter by Wright. I'm not your librarian nor do I intend to violate copyrights. It's your turn to get to work. This is silly. I'm sure there is no library in the city where I live that has the book. And, even if there were, this is an internet discussion, so you ...
by SevenUp
Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:18 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Mass Graves / Serniki
Replies: 42
Views: 12607

Re: Mass Graves / Serniki

From Wright's chapter in Forensic Pathology (using Google search inside the book for 'serniki') we see that while he claims the mass grave at Serniki was excavated, in fact the bodies were not exhumed and identified, paraphrasing (no cut/paste possible) .... " the bodies were lined up like sard...
by SevenUp
Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:40 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Mass Graves / Serniki
Replies: 42
Views: 12607

Re: Mass Graves / Serniki

Hannover wrote:A Chapter! Available from Amazon. There you have it then.


It's worst than that, the book is a methodology book and Serniki is not the subject of Wright's chapter, but rather the subject is the methodology of archeological examinations of mass graves.
by SevenUp
Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:43 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Mass Graves / Serniki
Replies: 42
Views: 12607

Re: Mass Graves

Wright's full analysis of the grave at Serniki is avaiable, from what I can tell, in full in two places, neither of which are available in full online. First is his chapter in the book Forensic Archaeology: Advances in Theory and Practice . This book is available in preview format at Google Books a...
by SevenUp
Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:37 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Mass Graves / Serniki
Replies: 42
Views: 12607

Re: Mass Graves

Here is another version of the mass grave at Serniki.... http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/cortagravatas/WWII%20Russia/Serniki.jpg The first photo appeared to be colorized at a minimum, and I wondered what would be the point of that. The point would be that since the excavation was relatively r...
by SevenUp
Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:20 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Mass Graves / Serniki
Replies: 42
Views: 12607

Re: Mass Graves

Here's a new thread to go grave by grave and see what we find. I've nominated the mass grave at Serniki (Sernyky) in Ukraine as the first one to examine. I would suggest that everyone first read the presentation by the lead archaeologist who excavated the mass grave at Serniki. His lecture is trans...
by SevenUp
Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:20 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Father Patrick Desbois' "Holocaust by Bullets"
Replies: 43
Views: 27640

Re: Father Patrick Desbois' "Holocaust by Bullets"

Why do I repeatedly hear this claim of "no mass graves"? Clearly there are mass graves. The question is what the threshold would be for the revisionists to believe that there are enough to support the Einsatzgruppen story. I recommend we start looking on a case-by-case basis. I nominate S...
by SevenUp
Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:23 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Auschwitz "gas chamber" door
Replies: 7
Views: 3889

Re: Auschwitz "gas chamber" door

I'm pretty sure this isn't the entrance to Crema 1, which is shown to the tourists and can be seen in the Cole video. So what is it? One of disinfestation chambers? All the other alleged human gas chambers were blown up. Perhaps if someone could decipher the writing on the door we'd have a clue. It...
by SevenUp
Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:34 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: He still teaches, students still squirm
Replies: 14
Views: 4606

Re: He still teaches, students still squirm

it is quite right that Butz should not express his views on unrelated matters in his engineering classes, or even elsewhere in the context of the University, if not invited to, and he probably accepts this. At least this is applied both ways as the contract of someone who sought to counter Butz's v...
by SevenUp
Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:16 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: What made you first question the holocaust?
Replies: 73
Views: 35836

Re: What made you first question the holocaust?

This has been an interesting thread, with each poster explaining how he/she came to question the holohoax. However, the expected shills have now derailed the thread with idiotic 'debate' about the particulars of the hoax. I suggest that those posts, along with this one, and any future posts not resp...
by SevenUp
Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:11 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: What exactly are we arguing about?
Replies: 32
Views: 6835

Re: What exactly are we arguing about?

I would like to point out that despite what SevenUp says about my friend being aggressive, he wasn't! I want to refine my argument ... you write "He has listened to me banging on over the years about my journey to ascertain the truth about the holocaust. He has never made any comment about it ...
by SevenUp
Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:28 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: What exactly are we arguing about?
Replies: 32
Views: 6835

Re: What exactly are we arguing about?

Thanks for the comments. I must point out that my friend was not 'aggressive' to me or my thoughts on the issue. He negated every fact you've presented, every argument you've made, with a single comment, that being 'it doesn't make any differnce'. That is total aggression, even if he isn't shaking ...
by SevenUp
Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:37 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: What exactly are we arguing about?
Replies: 32
Views: 6835

Re: What exactly are we arguing about?

Today he said that basically he doesn't understand what we are trying to achieve. That when the decision was made by the nazis to press the button to kill jews, it matters not how many, or when the finger was released from the button. That whether they were shot, hanged, gassed is completely irrele...
by SevenUp
Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:17 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: BBC article on 'denial' by Lipstadt
Replies: 17
Views: 5097

Re: BBC article on 'denial' by Lipstadt

OK, I'll answer my own question - the picture in the BBC article is of Hoess at the Nuremberg trial. It was not his trial, he was testifying as a defense witness ! This of course is perfectly absurd and beyond Kafkaesque. His 'testimony' consisted mainly of a printed 'confession' he had given earlie...
by SevenUp
Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:14 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: BBC article on 'denial' by Lipstadt
Replies: 17
Views: 5097

Re: BBC article on 'denial' by Lipstadt

As for the Wikipedia article, it's a bit of a curate's egg. Of course it's heavily biased, but despite that, a lot of statements of the Revisionist position get through. As the bias reflects the dominant view in the community, it is to be expected given Wikipedia's policy on sources. The "reli...

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