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by friedrichjansson
Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:35 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Lime
Replies: 17
Views: 4054

Re: Kill Jews with Lime

"In closed trucks, meant to hold 20 people, 100 or more Jews were crammed, and quicklime was poured on the floor. The doors were sealed tight; no air could escape. When people began to urinate, the lime began to cook. The gas and fumes came up and choked them to death. " It's worth mentio...
by friedrichjansson
Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:00 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Richard Green and the Toxicology of Auschwitz
Replies: 25
Views: 26656

Re: Richard Green and the Toxicology of Auschwitz

There are a few other things I could say, but I think people who are actually interested in this will do just as well to read the references I've given, so I'll call a halt to general discussion of cyanide toxicity. I do want to look at one application, namely to the claims of Robert Jan van Pelt re...
by friedrichjansson
Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:04 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Lime
Replies: 17
Views: 4054

Re: Lime

A couple more sources on the preservative action of (quick)lime: Bill Bass, in Death's Acre Mixed with the reddish-brown clay was a white, powdery material, which Carroll had told Knudson was lime, dumped over Monty Hudson's body in a misguided effort to speed its decomposition. (That seems to be a ...
by friedrichjansson
Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:07 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Nick Terry or anyone, give us your proof for 'gas chambers'
Replies: 24
Views: 7182

Re: Nick Terry or anyone, give us your proof for 'gas chambe

If you're going to taunt Mr. Terry, Hannover, it would be classier not to delete his replies. If you're going to dish it out you have to be willing to take it. More generally, I would suggest it makes sense to devote less energy to declaring victory and more energy to winning victories. For instance...
by friedrichjansson
Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:59 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Soviets building stuff with Jewish tombstones
Replies: 32
Views: 9093

Re: Soviets building stuff with Jewish tombstones

It would be interesting to make a thread of all the ways in which Jewish tombstones were allegedly used by the Nazis. Building roads, for one: http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=PI&s_site=philly&p_multi=PI&p_theme=realcities&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&...
by friedrichjansson
Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:34 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Friedlander:"20-25 million Germans knew about the holocaust"
Replies: 26
Views: 2900

Re: 20-25 million Germans knew about the holocaust

I would guess the argument could be the term 'holocaust' given that the term wasn't in common parlance, or even invented, it leads me to think that it is a case of 20/20 hindsight. Plus one could argue that most German citizens knew of the jewish persecution and deportation so in effect they did 'k...
by friedrichjansson
Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:34 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Friedlander:"20-25 million Germans knew about the holocaust"
Replies: 26
Views: 2900

Friedlander:"20-25 million Germans knew about the holocaust"

In this May 2012 lecture Trends in the Historiography of the Holocaust , Saul Friedlander states the following (fast forward to 46:00): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R9CZuCiNiA Quite naturally one of the most elusive issues of all, that of knowledge, resurfaces again and again. Who knew what, and...
by friedrichjansson
Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:39 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: wanted: scientific references on corpse color
Replies: 18
Views: 22633

Re: wanted: scientific references on corpse color

69) Lambert, S.W., Poisoning by hydrocyanic acid, with special reference to its effects on the brain, Neurol. Bull., 2, 93–105, 1919. I couldn't find the article, but it was summarized in these two journals http://archive.org/details/archivesneurolo01assogoog http://books.google.com/books?id=WRWgAAA...
by friedrichjansson
Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:30 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Richard Green and the Toxicology of Auschwitz
Replies: 25
Views: 26656

Re: Richard Green and the Toxicology of Auschwitz

In Chemistry is Not the Science , Green attacks Rudolf's arguments on two toxicological points: on the argument that the variable human tolerance for HCN requires that much higher concentrations of HCN be used than indicated by industrial safety information, and on the argument that cyanide can caus...
by friedrichjansson
Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:59 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Richard Green and the Toxicology of Auschwitz
Replies: 25
Views: 26656

Re: Richard Green and the Toxicology of Auschwitz

A few observations on the Moore-Gates formula VaC - Dt = K in which V = total volume of air breathed in l/kg a = the fraction of inhaled gas absorbed C = concentration in mg/l D = rate of detoxication in mg/kg/min t = time in minutes from first entrance of the sub- stance into the body (roughly, the...
by friedrichjansson
Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:44 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Richard Green and the Toxicology of Auschwitz
Replies: 25
Views: 26656

Re: Richard Green and the Toxicology of Auschwitz

This story from the book The Last Face You'll Ever See , if true, is another case of a person surviving an inhalation exposure to a high concentration of cyanide. Screenshot-45.png The book The Last Gasp tells the story like this: when the executioner pulled his fatal lever, nothing happened: the pe...
by friedrichjansson
Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:04 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: wanted: scientific references on corpse color
Replies: 18
Views: 22633

Re: wanted: scientific references on corpse color

68) W. G. Trapp, Massive cyanide poisoning with recovery: a Boxing-day story canmedaj01339-0076.pdf Another cyanide case report with red coloration. On this day, five gentlemen of fortune decided to cash in on the high price of nickel by a nocturnal visit to an electroplating company's Vancouver pre...
by friedrichjansson
Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:26 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Richard Green and the Toxicology of Auschwitz
Replies: 25
Views: 26656

Re: Richard Green and the Toxicology of Auschwitz

I observe that you don't take into account the initial room (or pellets) temperature factor. Pretty much everything I've said is about cyanide toxicology in general. I haven't specialized it yet to the case of an exposure to HCN that is evaporating from zyklon-B. We are supposed to believe that SS ...
by friedrichjansson
Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:45 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: HCN concentration used in and duration of US g.c. executions
Replies: 33
Views: 20457

Re: HCN concentration used in and duration of US g.c. execut

Here's a table for estimating the concentrations of HCN present in US gas chamber executions. I calculated it for all the amounts of cyanides I've seen described as being used - they are 10, 12, 15, and 16 oz of NaCN; 16, possibly also 15 (I haven't seen a primary source for it) oz of KCN. The figur...

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