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by Bob
Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:04 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?
Replies: 178
Views: 57094

Re: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?

Some follow-up questions for Bob, mostly for clarification. I'm sorry but it really is sometimes difficult to understand what you write. That's not an attack; I'm sure your ability to write in English is better than my ability to write in whatever your first language is, unless it's French, in whic...
by Bob
Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:13 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?
Replies: 178
Views: 57094

Re: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?

I beg the moderator's indulgence for the length of this. This will be my last post on the topic. Maybe a helpful way of looking at the current topic of debate is to consider how we might think about the document if it had not yet been found by Irving and discussed ad nauseam since then. We have a p...
by Bob
Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:15 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?
Replies: 178
Views: 57094

Re: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?

Another reason why I suspect Mathis does not understands English is the way he interprets the Kube´s letter making people believe Kube protested against extermination of Reich Jews in order to support his flawed theory when in reality it was Kube himself who came up with an idea to apply an euthanas...
by Bob
Fri Aug 14, 2015 1:07 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?
Replies: 178
Views: 57094

Re: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?

By the way, a clarification, the ghetto or labor camp examples of the word liquidation are not included in Mathis´ "understanding of German" of course although I included them in the sentence, they belongs to "understanding" of his native language which is supposedly English. Tha...
by Bob
Fri Aug 14, 2015 9:49 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?
Replies: 178
Views: 57094

Re: 'Keine Liquidierung' note debunked by Butz

Listen, Bob: I know you find your argument, like, real compelling, but I don't. If I lump the last two lines together, that's my right. You can claim it makes no sense, but it makes perfect sense to me. That you can't see that isn't my problem; that you engage in all-or-nothing thinking is -- again...
by Bob
Fri Aug 14, 2015 12:41 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?
Replies: 178
Views: 57094

Re: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?

Is absurd how Mathis wants proofs and ignores everything what is spoonfed to him, but he offers not a single piece of evidence that the latest two lines belongs to one topic whereas from the context is clear that the lines are not connected at all, one line, one topic for discussion. Context refutes...
by Bob
Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:05 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?
Replies: 178
Views: 57094

Re: 'Keine Liquidierung' note debunked by Butz

What follows is an elucidation that I have sent to David Irving several years ago and again in January of this year. As is common for such aide-mémoires, each line refers to an entirely separate topic of concern. The first line: “Verhaftung Dr. Jekelius” Refers to the detention Dr. Erwin Jekelius, ...
by Bob
Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:59 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?
Replies: 178
Views: 57094

Re: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?

Needless to say I fail to see what you wanted to achieve with your "Berlin" connection. Is completely irrelevant if all four lines are related to matters somehow connected to Berlin, if we follow your invention, what you need is connection between the topics, that lines are related to eac...
by Bob
Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:51 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?
Replies: 178
Views: 57094

Re: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?

Of course, I'm looking for patterns. The diffference between you and me, apparently, is that I'm looking for a pattern that would explain these four lines having to do with one another, within a larger context of Jews being deported east, while Jews already there are being murdered. You're doing th...
by Bob
Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:04 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?
Replies: 178
Views: 57094

Re: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?

Needless to say I fail to see what you wanted to achieve with your "Berlin" connection. Is completely irrelevant if all four lines are related to matters somehow connected to Berlin, if we follow your invention, what you need is connection between the topics, that lines are related to each...
by Bob
Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:04 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?
Replies: 178
Views: 57094

Re: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?

I missed this from Mathis aka Thames: There are two problems with your line of argument here. First, of course I'm looking for a pattern -- people don't tend to jump all over the place in their conversations, at least if they're not psychotic. Second, there is no reason to assume that the influence ...
by Bob
Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:39 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?
Replies: 178
Views: 57094

Re: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?

(1) I concede the point on Jekelius and "Molotov's son" being two distinct topics. I would nevertheless suggest that the first three topics are, in fact, related. To wit: (a) Erwin Jekelius was employed by T4 in Vienna but was perhaps romantically tied to Paula Hitler, as noted before. ...
by Bob
Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:37 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?
Replies: 178
Views: 57094

Re: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?

There are a lot of problems with this line of argumentation. First, it requires me to trust that you have been to Prague and have viewed the documents in question. At the very least, it requires that you have some other source for the content of the documents. But you haven't offered that, if you d...
by Bob
Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:27 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Himmler's note infers Hitler knew of liquidation ?
Replies: 178
Views: 57094

Re: 'Keine Liquidierung' note debunked by Butz

Though helpful, Teichová is still a secondary source. I am currently going through some archival material that I hope will demonstrate the use of the word "Liquidierung" during this period and in this context from primary sources. You'll also want to check the two sources that Teichová ci...
by Bob
Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:30 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: The use of logical fallacies / Nessie craps out
Replies: 64
Views: 15612

Re: The use of logical fallacies

From the thread: The most important Photograph / corpse color Last time that I looked, Nessie was over at Skeptic, posting replies to me and other CODOH members. He's claiming that challenging the functionality of the Kula columns is a fallacy of ignorance since nobody has built an actual Kula colum...

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