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by Bob
Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:44 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: The use of logical fallacies / Nessie craps out
Replies: 64
Views: 15633

Re: The use of logical fallacies

I am the first to admit that the use - the heay use - of cherry picking and other kind of fallacies are more frequent among people with no or little real knowledge about what they are arguing about or on people - or websites - who wants to capitalize on that ignorance. I don't have to demonstrate a...
by Bob
Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:45 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: The use of logical fallacies / Nessie craps out
Replies: 64
Views: 15633

Re: The use of logical fallacies

Cherry picking is something different, a perfect example of revisionists cherry picking would be the use of the testimony of Marc Klein - to describe Auschwitz as a not so bad place...and the swimming pool...football matches, etc...while ignoring and rejecting the rest of his testimony as bullshit....
by Bob
Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:57 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: The SANITY Test!
Replies: 181
Views: 44473

Re: The SANITY Test!

Sorry, I thought you remember it. Here is the link for our longer debate regarding this issue and some of the important comments: http://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1514&start=60#p34116 http://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1514&start=70#p34191 http://rodoh.info/foru...
by Bob
Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:46 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: The SANITY Test!
Replies: 181
Views: 44473

Re: The SANITY Test!

Friedrich Paul Berg wrote: Do you agree with me that railroad delousing gas chambers could have been e-a-s-i-l-y used to commit mass murder by the Nazis?


As discussed on Rodoh, I do not agree that railroad delousing gas chambers could have been easily used for this purpose.
by Bob
Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:41 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: The Witness Conspiracy ? shyster Nessie taken to task
Replies: 26
Views: 7778

Re: The Witness Conspiracy.

That is corroborated by Goebbels recognising how Katyn was being used against the Nazis and so Nazi mass graves would present problems to them Goebbels´entry of September 29, 1943: [1] "Unfortunately we have had to give up Katyn. The Bolsheviks undoubtedly will soon "find" that we sh...
by Bob
Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:56 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Was Rudolf Vrba registered at Auschwitz?
Replies: 27
Views: 4564

Re: Was Rudolf Vrba registered at Auschwitz?

I didn't say that the wealth of Vrba's family could have helped me to know if he was at Auschwitz. I said that his family's wealth had made me wonder if Vrba had really been held at Auschwitz. Got it now? I already got previously that you doubt his presence at Auschwitz on the basis of wealth of hi...
by Bob
Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:36 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: The Witness Conspiracy ? shyster Nessie taken to task
Replies: 26
Views: 7778

Re: The Witness Conspiracy.

Witnesses include the thousands who were in selections, saw relatives, neighbours and friends marched off to where there were gas chambers and despite extensive searching have never seen them again. Evidence an example when somebody allegedly exhaustively searched to find people who were seen to ma...
by Bob
Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:43 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Nessie's case for Sturdy Colls & Treblinka
Replies: 20
Views: 5900

Re: Nessie's case for Sturdy Colls & Treblinka

Human remains found - known old photo. Irrelevant, what matters is not qualitative (remains found) but quantitative (how much remains) factor. AFAIK nobody disputes some people may died there since hundreds of thousands of people were sent there. An issue similar to issue: "cyanide in the wall...
by Bob
Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:08 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: The use of logical fallacies / Nessie craps out
Replies: 64
Views: 15633

Re: The use of logical fallacies

From what I am reading in the latest comments, it appears the debate is now about what in the testimony/report is a lie, what a mistake, what is result of trauma, why etc. hence not related to the topic of " logical fallacies", but more a topic "analysis of testimonies" or someth...
by Bob
Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:31 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Was Rudolf Vrba registered at Auschwitz?
Replies: 27
Views: 4564

Re: Was Rudolf Vrba registered at Auschwitz?

I do not agree with doubt about Vrba, and to base this doubt only on his testimony full of errors is wrong since according to this approach, you should doubt that even German guards were stationed in the camp including commander of the camp! We are dealing with propaganda story, hence so many error...
by Bob
Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:17 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: The use of logical fallacies / Nessie craps out
Replies: 64
Views: 15633

Re: The use of logical fallacies

I would say the topic should be concentrated on the use of logical fallacies as per opening comment, not on witnesses, reports etc. unless they are directly connected with the topic of this thread. Hence Nessie should answer this post in the first place as he still did not provide requested examples...
by Bob
Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:05 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: The use of logical fallacies / Nessie craps out
Replies: 64
Views: 15633

Re: The use of logical fallacies

That is contradictory evidence given by witnesses. That is not what the fallacy of cherry picking involves. Cherry picking would mean that evidence which does not suit is suppressed or ignored. The contradictions are not suppressed or ignored. They are well known and argued over. They are known and...
by Bob
Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:59 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: The use of logical fallacies / Nessie craps out
Replies: 64
Views: 15633

Re: The use of logical fallacies

Borjastick, I understand your point, but Nessie is not a newbie, It had been more than two years since I firstly educated him about basic things and I was very patient, since then I recommended to him several times to at least read basic stuff about the subject. You know, these people even do not ne...
by Bob
Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:30 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: The use of logical fallacies / Nessie craps out
Replies: 64
Views: 15633

Re: The use of logical fallacies

We have argued before so you know me. Yes, i already know who you are. Cherry picking involves using only the evidence which confirms the hoped for outcome. So with regards to the above witnesses, what is ignored, what is cherry picked? Cherry picking already provided, hence here are contradictions...

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