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by Hebden
Fri Jan 31, 2003 1:44 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Riga, November 30, 1941
Replies: 52
Views: 36666

Breitman refers to a German police decode. I don’t know which decodes he is referring to. Does Hebden? What does it say? No. 471, Dec 4, 1941, decodes of traffic of Dec 1, 1941: Item 24 (on page 3) reads, "OEJ de DSQ SSD DSQ Nr 3 1930 2 Tle 175 71 SPK1 3742 SS Obergruppenführer Jeckeln, Höherer SS ...
by Hebden
Fri Jan 31, 2003 1:24 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Riga, November 30, 1941
Replies: 52
Views: 36666

Browning/Gerlach I assume that Hebden’s quoted text is from Brown’s expert witness report of the Irving trial. No, from Mr. Browning's book Nazi Policy, Jewish Workers, German Killers , a collection of the George Macaulay Trevelyan Lectures given by him at Cambridge University in 1999. It lists as ...
by Hebden
Wed Jan 29, 2003 8:49 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Riga, November 30, 1941
Replies: 52
Views: 36666

We happened upon another account of the massacres in Riga, this time in the official Extraordinary State Commission report on "crimes committed by the German-Fascist invaders in the Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic." It appeared in the English-language Soviet War News on 17-18 April 1945. In Octobe...
by Hebden
Wed Jan 29, 2003 6:33 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: "eyewitness" Vrba - a liar demolished in court
Replies: 25
Views: 10629

I shall start another thread if need be, but do give us the evidence that Vrba's brother "died at Maidanek". This should be interesting indeed. - Hannover We believe the claim is that his brother Sammy was killed during Operation Erntefest which allegedly occurred on November 3-4, 1943. The death o...
by Hebden
Sun Jan 19, 2003 5:42 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: "eyewitness" Vrba - a liar demolished in court
Replies: 25
Views: 10629

We came upon a curious fact the other day. Mr. Vrba had a younger brother named Sam (Rosenberg, presumably) who died at Maidanek. Very interesting.
by Hebden
Sun Jan 19, 2003 4:32 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Katyn at Nuremberg
Replies: 22
Views: 15993

The whole affair is aptly summarized by Butz in his "Hoax of the 20th Century", pp. 189-191 of the online version : The tribunal's final disposition of the Katyn issue was a disgrace even independent of the true facts concerning the atrocity: it was quietly dropped and does not appear in the judgme...
by Hebden
Sun Jan 19, 2003 4:29 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Riga, November 30, 1941
Replies: 52
Views: 36666

Let us say we were also banned from the TRF, only we don't mention the fact as often as you do. The Moderator there, a certain Mr. Wendel, cancelled our account without informing the board as he did in other cases. Probably he was too ashamed. A pity because, with all due modesty, we were the best ...
by Hebden
Sat Jan 18, 2003 4:31 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Katyn at Nuremberg
Replies: 22
Views: 15993

Hebden asks about Nuremberg and the false belief that the Germans were responsible for shooting thousands of Poles at Katyn forest. The German 'guilt' for the killing of thousands of Polish officers in the Katyn forest near Smolensk was similarly confirmed by Nuremberg document USSR-54. This detail...
by Hebden
Sat Jan 18, 2003 4:15 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Riga, November 30, 1941
Replies: 52
Views: 36666

If there were no ghettos in that country, how can anyone flee from a ghetto, how can anybody be shipped to a ghetto and how can a non-existing ghetto be dissolved? We don't know, but maybe the Germans established the ghetto?! Radical concept, we know. A bit of barbed wire here, a few street signs t...
by Hebden
Sat Jan 18, 2003 10:31 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Riga, November 30, 1941
Replies: 52
Views: 36666

Michael Mills: The source of Mr Ezergailis' figure of over 10,000 Reich Jews killed by Lohse, Jeckeln and Lange, given in his message on this site, remains a mystery. He appears to be tacitly denying the detailed statistics given in his own book. Did you read Ezergailis' book? Alas no, we are findi...
by Hebden
Sat Jan 18, 2003 9:01 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Riga, November 30, 1941
Replies: 52
Views: 36666

After reading the comments on this topic it seems to me that the choice of answers is not complete. There should have been a third choice: "I don't know. It seems that we need an objective investigation of the actual facts." I agree. Dichotomies don't further the cause for the demythologization of ...
by Hebden
Sat Jan 18, 2003 8:57 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Katyn at Nuremberg
Replies: 22
Views: 15993

Katyn at Nuremberg

Hannover wrote: The court in this case again evaded responsibility by simply accepting the evasive maneuvers of Nuremberg. At Nuremberg, the charter stated that the court was "not bound by technical rules of evidence". All allegations by the Allies were considered factual with no proof having been ...
by Hebden
Sat Jan 18, 2003 8:51 am
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Riga, November 30, 1941
Replies: 52
Views: 36666

After reading the comments on this topic it seems to me that the choice of answers is not complete. There should have been a third choice: "I don't know. It seems that we need an objective investigation of the actual facts." As it happens, we did attempt to include a 'Don't know' option, but our in...
by Hebden
Fri Jan 17, 2003 5:53 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Riga, November 30, 1941
Replies: 52
Views: 36666

Sir Martin Gilbert's 1981 book Auschwitz and the Allies contains reference to a contemporary witness account of the massacres in Riga: Throughout October the messages from Geneva poured into London, New York and Jerusalem in a steady stream. On October 5 Lichtheim sent a seven-page report on the 'br...
by Hebden
Fri Jan 17, 2003 12:49 pm
Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
Topic: Danuta
Replies: 9
Views: 6641

It's just that according to our information, Ms Czech was not an inmate at Auschwitz. I am curious: In which camp then was Danuta an inmate, according to your information? Or was she no inmate of any camp, maybe? That they did not say. We rather doubt she was in any camps. We see no reason why she ...

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