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Sachsenhausen Gas Chamber?

Postby Elroy » 6 months 23 hours ago (Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:02 pm)

A friend of mine visited a concentration camp in Germany proper a few years back and claims to have visited a "gas chamber" there...

Wikipedia makes no mention of it and have not checked the USHMM to see if they are still pedalling the garbage either- Scrapbook pages has an amusing "skit" on it in the style that it likes to do it (such as pointing out the floor drain and saying it must have been a "fake" floor drain) :lol:

Anyway she couldn't quite remember the name of the camp but it's sounding like Sachsenhausen. So I figured I would get a head start on her.

I have not paid too much attention to the Western camps because as I understand it they are officially conceded never to have served as death camps- but I also understand that at a few places it is still claimed that "some" gas activity took place still which are technically absurd.

Is this claim totally dropped now? And if so is the proof evident to present her?
If the claim is still somewhat active- what are the proofs it's a fraud and can it be shown how the belief is unfounded in the first place very simply?

I will of course work on the myth at large with her as I can.



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Re: Sachsenhausen Gas Chamber?

Postby Hannover » 6 months 21 hours ago (Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:54 pm)

Elroy:
It was claimed that 840,000 Russian POWs were killed at Sachsenhausen, and the bodies burned in 4 portable ovens. :lol:
So ask your friend how that could actually be accomplished and ask them to show us the necessary human remains from such an impossible operation.

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https://codoh.com/library/document/3341/?lang=en
excerpt:
The Origin of the Soviet Report on the "Next-Generation" Homicidal Gas Chamber at Sachsenhausen
By Friedrich Jansson

"Conclusions

We have shown that the gassing technology described in the sources on the supposed homicidal gas chamber at Sachsenhausen, which orthodox Holocaust historians are forced to explain as a mysterious and inexplicable anomaly, has a natural and well-documented explanation in the context of the redesign of the Sachsenhausen delousing chambers. As this conversion took place in mid-1944, while the homicidal gas chamber is said to have come into operation in 1943 or earlier, the system described in the Soviet technical report cannot be that used in the alleged homicidal gas chamber.[26]

While the Soviet technical report is not a particularly accurate exposition of the functioning of a DEGESCH Kreislauf system adapted for Areginal gas, it retained enough accuracy in detail to show that Sachsenhausen’s supposed “[homicidal] gas chamber of the future”[27] was in fact designed for delousing and installed (in 1944) in the delousing facility."
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https://codoh.com/library/document/3160/?lang=en
The Report of the Soviet Extraordinary State Commission on the Sachsenhausen Concentration Camp
The Genesis of a Propaganda Project

By Klaus Schwensen
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https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relev ... as+chamber

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Re: Sachsenhausen Gas Chamber?

Postby borjastick » 6 months 17 hours ago (Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:01 am)

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http://sachsenhausen2012.blogspot.fr/2012/06/liquid-cyclon-b-gas-chamber.html

Try the above blogspot from, I think Black Rabbit, I could be wrong here. In any case this visit was well recorded with excellent pictures.

Isn't Sachsenhausen the location of the famous pedal powered brain bashing machine?
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Re: Sachsenhausen Gas Chamber?

Postby Hektor » 6 months 13 hours ago (Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:25 am)

borjastick wrote:sachsenhausen gas chamber.JPGhttp://sachsenhausen2012.blogspot.fr ... amber.html

Try the above blogspot from, I think Black Rabbit, I could be wrong here. In any case this visit was well recorded with excellent pictures.

Isn't Sachsenhausen the location of the famous pedal powered brain bashing machine?

Yes, I think it was Sachsenhausen.

This isn't a "gas chamber" it's a room that was designed for using a lot of water. I'd guess it's a shower room.

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Re: Sachsenhausen Gas Chamber?

Postby TimeTraveler » 6 months 12 hours ago (Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:54 am)

German commander Gerhart Schirmer said he actually helped build that "gas chamber" when he was a pow after the war. When the camp was being used by the Soviets as a prison. He wrote about that experience in "Ten Years in the Hands of the Soviets".
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Re: Sachsenhausen Gas Chamber?

Postby Hannover » 6 months 10 hours ago (Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:04 am)

TimeTraveler wrote:German commander Gerhart Schirmer said he actually helped build that "gas chamber" when he was a pow after the war. When the camp was being used by the Soviets as a prison. He wrote about that experience in "Ten Years in the Hands of the Soviets".

There were countless numbers who 'confessed' to witchcraft too.

More fake WWII 'history'.
We have an alleged builder of alleged homicidal 'gas chambers' who was never prosecuted for it.
The entire matter debunks itself.

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Re: Sachsenhausen Gas Chamber?

Postby flimflam » 6 months 10 hours ago (Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:22 am)

Sachsenhausen - Down the Memory Hole
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Sachsenhausen was the largest concentration camp in Germany, it was located near Berlin. It was captured by the Soviets, and they put the commandant, Anton Kaindl, and several of his staff, on trial for war crimes. Kaindl confessed to building a gas chamber and using it to kill prisoners. There was eyewitness testimony. There was physical evidence: the photo shows guard Paul Sakowski explaining how the pipes and valves were used to pipe the gas into the gas chamber. The Sachsenhausen shower room disguised as a gas chamber no longer exists, but its footprint can be seen here, it measures 7'x 9'. Just one problem with the trial, it was all a hoax. No one now believes that gas was ever sent though pipes into any gas chamber. No one believes that any prisoners were gassed in any camp in Germany proper. The history of Sachsenhausen, as given on the USHMM site, makes no mention of any gas chamber, see it here.. http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?la ... d=10007774

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Re: Sachsenhausen Gas Chamber?

Postby Hieldner » 6 months 10 hours ago (Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:26 am)

Hannover wrote:
TimeTraveler wrote:German commander Gerhart Schirmer said he actually helped build that "gas chamber" when he was a pow after the war. When the camp was being used by the Soviets as a prison. He wrote about that experience in "Ten Years in the Hands of the Soviets".

There were countless numbers who 'confessed' to witchcraft too.

More fake WWII 'history'.
We have an alleged builder of alleged homicidal 'gas chambers' who was never prosecuted for it.
The entire matter debunks itself.

Hannover, Schirmer confessed building that gas chamber at the behest of the Soviets, after the war. He wrote:
There exists a notarized, sworn affidavit about the construction of a gas chamber and a shooting facility during October/November 1945 by eight prisoners, of whom I was one (appendix 4). Briefly described, this 'gas chamber' was a shower room with 25 showerheads in the ceiling. This was supposed to give the impression that the gassing was conducted in it. Attached to this, we erected a separate chamber with an opening, in front of which the executee would sit facing the opposite side in order to receive a shot in his neck. At least this was what the guide had to tell [to Soviet visitors]. This [guide] was our Fritz Dörrbeck, a translator who had to play this theater because – born in Russia – he spoke perfect Russian.

Schirmer’s booklet is now censored in Germany because of “racial incitement” viewtopic.php?t=4976

The alleged Sachsenhausen gas chamber is also covered in chapter 10 of Inside the Gas Chambers. The current claimed death toll of the camp is 100,000.
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Re: Sachsenhausen Gas Chamber?

Postby Hannover » 6 months 9 hours ago (Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:08 am)

Hieldner wrote:Hannover, Schirmer confessed building that gas chamber at the behest of the Soviets, after the war. He wrote:
There exists a notarized, sworn affidavit about the construction of a gas chamber and a shooting facility during October/November 1945 by eight prisoners, of whom I was one (appendix 4). Briefly described, this 'gas chamber' was a shower room with 25 showerheads in the ceiling. This was supposed to give the impression that the gassing was conducted in it. Attached to this, we erected a separate chamber with an opening, in front of which the executee would sit facing the opposite side in order to receive a shot in his neck. At least this was what the guide had to tell [to Soviet visitors]. This [guide] was our Fritz Dörrbeck, a translator who had to play this theater because – born in Russia – he spoke perfect Russian.

Schirmer’s booklet is now censored in Germany because of “racial incitement” viewtopic.php?t=4976

The alleged Sachsenhausen gas chamber is also covered in chapter 10 of Inside the Gas Chambers. The current claimed death toll of the camp is 100,000.

My confusion, thanks for the clarification.

IOW, he was forced to built a fake gas chamber that the communists would then proclaim to be a 'Nazi gas chamber'.
How 'Auschwitz' of them.

Quite a little nugget for future reference.
No wonder Schirmer's book is banned in Zionist controlled 'Germany'.

Thanks, Hannover

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Re: Sachsenhausen Gas Chamber?

Postby Hektor » 6 months 4 hours ago (Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:39 pm)

Hieldner wrote:....
Schirmer’s booklet is now censored in Germany because of “racial incitement” viewtopic.php?t=4976

The alleged Sachsenhausen gas chamber is also covered in chapter 10 of Inside the Gas Chambers. The current claimed death toll of the camp is 100,000.


And I thought there were no gas chambers in the "Altreich"?!

I recall that Schirmer's booklet was an early milestone for me in becoming a Revisionist. It can be downloaded here:
https://archive.org/details/Schirmer-Ge ... en-Workuta
No idea where the English translation is.

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Re: Sachsenhausen Gas Chamber?

Postby TimeTraveler » 6 months 46 minutes ago (Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:16 pm)

Hektor wrote:
Hieldner wrote:....
Schirmer’s booklet is now censored in Germany because of “racial incitement” viewtopic.php?t=4976

The alleged Sachsenhausen gas chamber is also covered in chapter 10 of Inside the Gas Chambers. The current claimed death toll of the camp is 100,000.


And I thought there were no gas chambers in the "Altreich"?!

I recall that Schirmer's booklet was an early milestone for me in becoming a Revisionist. It can be downloaded here:
https://archive.org/details/Schirmer-Ge ... en-Workuta
No idea where the English translation is.


Probably isn't a English translation but I don't know. I've read a few translations of a few pages here. It's actually really fascinating how the Soviets planned out all this. It's the only eyewitness account to when the Soviets constructed all these fake gas chamber tourist traps we see today at the camps.

"The construction works (on the fake gas chamber) went on for about 14 days. When Dipl.-Ing. Dörbeck and I realised what was being built, we went to the political officer and told him that we refused to undertake any further work. The political officer, Lieutenant-Colonel Kolowantienkow, spoke - often heatedly - with Dörbeck for about fifteen minutes in Russian. Dörbeck later told me that the political officer had said that we would be summarily shot if we ceased to do any further work or let slip one word about it. The political officer said furthermore that we were receiving good rations (which was true) and that he - Dörbeck - would later be required to explain the installation to groups of Soviet visitors. The political officer also said that we would be well-treated in the future and receive good rations. As we were unable to prevent the construction of the installation, it seemed to make sense to us that we should continue the work and, in this way, learn what was being made there.
After completion, at about the end of October 1945, Dipl.-Ing. Dörbeck was brought before the political officer alone and received precise instructions about the explanations he was to give to Soviet groups of visitors. He had to say the following: This installation, which was built by the Nazis, served to kill [Vernichtung] Jews and Soviet officer prisoners. Each day some 200 people were gassed and about twenty-five were shot. This went on from 1943 till 1945 (April). From about December 1945 until the end of 1947 an average of two tours a week, each consisting of some thirty to forty Soviet men, mostly soldiers and people from the GPU, and women, were escorted by Dörbeck round the installation. There were often officers amongst them who quite openly expressed doubts about the age of the installation because they saw that the concrete was new, that there were no bullet holes from the executions in the concrete wall and that the blood stains (red paint) were very meagre and unconvincing." - Gerhart Schirmer
Ten Years in the Hands of the Soviets


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