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Re: The Most Ridiculous Testimony

Postby Hektor » 4 months 3 weeks ago (Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:15 am)

Lamprecht wrote:Various testimonies claiming "Gas chambers" at Buchenwald:

Buchenwald gas chamber?
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Eugen Kogon didn't claim gas chambers in Buchenwald saying that only a number of camps had them. He uses other testimony with physical impossibilities:
Initially the SS had used a killing machine, but this was superseded when it did not work fast enough, It operated as follows: there was a raised wooden platform, with a vertical beam, ostensibly for measuring body height. The beam, however, concealed a truncheon suspended at shoulder height. When the victim stepped on the platform the truncheon was tripped, smashing the skull or breaking the
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This machine did not always kill. Those who were merely injured were nevertheless carted off to the crematory, where the coup de grace was administered with a big oaken club, Zbigniev Fuks, an assistant in the crematory, had the harrowing experience of having a Russian prisoner of war, brought in with a batch of bodies, actually address him: "‘Give me your hand, friend!” He had been lying, naked and bloody, atop a whole heap of corpses. SS Technical Sergeant Warnstedt, chief of the Buchenwald Crematory, instantly leaped up and killed the man with a shot from his gun.

When the execution shipments grew too large, the prisoners had to strip in the open air outside the stable. They were then lined up in big batches in the riding hall and mowed down with a machine-gun. Sawdust was sprinkled over the blood and the next batch admitted. Unlimited quantities of liquor were available for the killers.

The victims were not always ignorant of the fate awaiting them. On occasion one of the naked men would try to escape and run through the guard line drawn up around the area. In one such case the Ukrainian SS man refused to shoot* Henceforth only German SS men were employed as guards.

Civilians too were liquidated in the stable. One day a bus from the Apolda Transportation Company arrived, bearing a number of well-dressed Germans and a few officers. This was about four o’clock in the afternoon. The arrivals entered the stable, engaged in animated conversation. As soon as they were inside, a guard line drew up* Two hours later the crematory received a new batch of bodies.

The entire SS crew of “ Detail 99” was decorated with the War Merit Cross*

Only a very few camps had gas chambers of their own. But there were mobile gas chambers, vans that somewhat resembled the closed "'Black Marias'" of the police, for emergency use in exterminating prisoners. Gassing in these cars seems to have been slow, since they usually drove about a good deal before they stopped to discharge the corpses.

At Auschwitz, however, there was a huge gas plant—actually at Birkenau, a part of Auschwitz—which embraced five crematories together with four gas bunkers built into the ground. Each of these had an average capacity of twelve to fifteen hundred persons. The fifth crematory had no furnaces. It was only a huge fire pit.

In all the eastern camps and ghettos, designation for death in the gas chamber was known as ‘‘selection**—understandably a term that came to spread panic. In Auschwitz proper the “selectees” were assigned to special barracks, where they were kept under sharp guard. They often remained in isolation for two or three days, generally without food, for they were already considered “scratched.” At the Auschwitz hospital patients of all kinds were never permitted to exceed ten per cent of the camp strength, Any excess numbers were automatically sent to the gas chambers. The personnel servicing this plant numbered about one thousand prisoners, all of them Jews. The victims were lined up before the pit naked and shot down by the SS, the bodies—or the wounded! —toppling directly into fire. The Camp Commandant, SS Captain Kramer, never missed these mass executions. He generally stood by beaming, slapping his thighs with glee when the scene grew especially exciting, Not all the prisoners were what came to be knowm as “Moslems,” men who were physically and mentally broken, who allowed anything to be done to them. There were prisoners who went on their death march with militant songs on their lips, shouting to the SS, “We today, you tomorrow!” As for those who were neither apathetic nor militant, no one will ever know what went on in their minds.

The gas chambers were simplicity itself, yet they were planned with diabolical ingenuity. Each chamber had the appearance of a public bath, and was so represented to the victims. In the dressing-rooms there were signs, in all the principal languages of Europe, instructing the prisoners to lie their shoes together and fold their clothes neatly to avoid loss.

Hot coffee was promised after the bath, From the dressing rooms the way led directly to the “bath,” where hydrocyanic acid gas was admitted through the shower heads and ventilator outlets as soon as the doors had been dosed. Death took as long as four or five minutes, depending on the amount of gas available* During this time the most dreadful screams could be heard from the men, women and children inside, as their lungs slowly ruptured. Any bodies that showed signs of life when the doors had been opened were clubbed into
quiescence. The prisoners of the service squad then dragged out the bodies, stripped off any rings, and cut off the hair,
which was bundled into sacks and shipped to plants for processing
. (In 1944 a young Jew from Brno, Yanda Weiss, was a member of this squad, He is the source of the details here presented, which have been confirmed from other sources.)

The bodies were then stacked in piles of ten each* SS Technical Sergeant Moll, in charge of the Auschwitz crematories, made his tour of inspection, after which the bodies were thrown into the furnaces or the fire pit, Moll was fond of placing naked women against the edge of the fire pit and watching them fall into the flames when they were shot in the abdomen. On one occasion he found a prisoner from the
service squad in possession of a ring. He had the man drenched with gasoline and then set afire. Another man he suspended by the hands, shooting at him until the arm parted. He then repeated the process with the man's feet.

On another occasion Roll Call Officer Schillinger made an Italian dancer perform naked before the crematory. Taking advantage of a favorable moment, the woman approached him, siezed his gun, and shot him down* In the ensuing struggle she herself was killed, at least escaping death by gas.

Early in 1945 Auschwitz was evacuated and the gas chambers blown up. Some of the SS fiends who had done this work were transferred to Buchenwald, where they went about boasting of their foul deeds. They were plentifully supplied with valuables. They kept reminiscing about the “wild life’' at Auschwitz, with its “strong medicine and constant alcoholic indulgences/'

The chief victims of Auschwitz were Jews from all the countries of Europe that had come under Hitler's rule. But there were also Poles, Russians, aged and decrepit prisoners of other nationalities, and a contingent of the sick. The highest “output" attained by Auschwitz was 34,000 bodies, in one continuous day and night shift. According to the confession of Camp Commandant Hoss, during his reign alone, from 1942 to early 1944, some 2,500,000 persons were gassed at Auschwitz.

https://archive.org/details/EugenKogonT ... ll/page/n2


Kogon was quite frank about for whom he told the stories:
On April 16, 1945, five days after the first American armored units had arrived, an Intelligence Team from the Psychological Warfare Division visited the Buchenwald concentration camp. Its mission w'as to study the situation and to prepare a comprehensive report for Supreme Headquarters, Allied Expeditionary Forces (SHAEF), The report was to show how a German concentration camp was organized, what role was assigned to it in the Nazi State and what happened to those who were sent to the camps by the Gestapo and detained there by the SS.

...Under the direction of Lieutenant Albert G. Rosenberg, the members of the team. Max M, Kimcntal, Richard Akselrad, Alfred H. Sampson and Ernest S, Biberfeld, began to lay the groundwork for an objective and conclusive report. Their own work in helping to dissolve the camp quickly made them realize that it was quite impossible for outsiders to gain even an approximately accurate picture of the complex situation within the camp and to evaluate its true significance. Such a task could be carried out only in close collaboration with a few reliable camp inmates who had no axe to grind. Kogon was asked to take over this job.

The initial report was completed in Weimar within about a month. Constant liaison was maintained with the camp and the numerous groups of former prisoners, and rather formidable difficulties had to be overcome, as will become evident from many of the chapters in this book. The first report comprised some 400 typewritten pages, single-spaced. There was a main report of 125 pages which Kogon himself had dictated, and approximately 150 statements from individual prisoners who* by virtue of their experience, had been asked to give their view's on various facts, incidents, persons and phases. Kogon's chief collaborators were the Socialist writer Ferdinand Romhild; Heinz Baumeister of Dortmund, a Social Democrat; and Stefan Heymann, an orthodox Communist editor with whom Kogon was on excellent terms, although Heymann had been detailed by the Communist leadership in camp to serve as a check on him,

Kogon consulted further with Dr. Werner Hilpert, former leader of the Catholic Action in Saxony and chairman of the Catholic Center party in Saxony, as well as with The radical leftist writer Franz Hackct. Except for Stefan Heymann, Kogon had long been on terms of close friendship with all these men* Each of them had wide experience in camp, their minimum term of detention being five years. They had “come up from below.” Under circumstances that were often very difficult they had slowly risen to positions that afforded them insight and influence. Both had always involved danger, especially since none of these men belonged to the “big shot 11 group in camp. None of them was soiled by corruption or other camp misdeeds.

To dispel certain apprehensions that the report might become a kind of indictment of leading camp inmates, Kogon read all but two of the twelve chapters—all that was finished at the time—to a group of fifteen men early in May 1945, All fifteen had been leaders of the camp underground, or were representative of certain groups of political prisoners. Their verdict was that the contents of the report were objective and accurate.

....One copy each of the finished report was transmitted by way of the Rosenberg Intelligence Team to the Psychological Warfare Division, SHAEF, Paris, and the headquarters of the Twelfth United States Army Group at Bad Nauheim. Subsequently this material repeatedly served as a basis for investigations by the War Crimes Commission at Nuremberg and Wiesbaden, and by the Military Intelligence Service Center of the United States Forces, European Theater.

Mr, Crossman of Oxford, today a Labor party member of the British House of Commons, at the time working for the British Broadcasting Corporation with the Psychological Warfare Division in Paris, was the first to recommend that the report, which was addressed to an official agency rather than to the public, be reworked into a book. The chief of the Psychological Warfare Division, later to become the Information Control Division, Brigadier-Genera! Robert A. McClure, agreed to the proposal, and upon returning from Paris Kogon went to work.


Mind you, Psychological Warfare Division was responsible for gathering "facts" for war crimes trials. This on its own already says enough.

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Re: The Most Ridiculous Testimony

Postby Lamprecht » 4 months 2 weeks ago (Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:32 pm)

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Art Zander was a United States Air Force navigator whose Consolidated B-24 Liberator bomber was shot down over France in June 1944. Zander parachuted to safety and after a few weeks on the run he was arrested and soon sent to Buchenwald (Furtherglory of scrapbookpages.com writes about the USAF members who were sent to Buchenwald for collaborating with the French Resistance).

In 1999 Zander received $46,874.00 from the German taxpayer for the four months he spent in Buchenwald, following which, he spoke to a journalist in his home town of Rockford, Illinois, about the Buchenwald gas chamber:
Rockford Register Star, Monday, September 13, 1999. wrote:"We figured we'd had it if we were going to Buchenwald," Zander said. "We knew they gassed prisoners in the showers. We figured when they put us in there, we were gone. But they just cleaned us up and gave us clothes from people they had just executed."

Zander said the gas chambers operated constantly at Buchenwald. He remembers the stench from the ovens, where victims' bodies were burned.


That wasn't the first occasion Zander has spoken of the Buchenwald gas chambers to a journalist from the Register Star, in another interview two years earlier he'd claimed:
Rockford Register Star, Tuesday, April 22, 1997. wrote:"The gas chambers were working all the time," he said. "You could tell when the ovens were burning. I haven't smelled anything like it since."


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Rockford Register Star (Rockford, IL), Tuesday, April 22, 1997, pp. 1A & 4A

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Rockford Register Star (Rockford, IL), Monday, September 13, 1999, pp. 7A & 8A


More Buchenwald gas chamber testimonies: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7033&start=60#p92092

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"Neither in Dachau nor in Bergen-Belsen nor in Buchenwald were Jews or other prisoners gassed."
- Dr. M. Broszat, Institute for Contemporary History, Munich
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Re: The Most Ridiculous Testimony

Postby borjastick » 4 months 2 weeks ago (Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:39 am)

Over $10k per month, wow that's an amazing win win.
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Postby Hektor » 4 months 2 weeks ago (Thu May 02, 2019 5:57 pm)

More ridiculous "testimony":
https://twitter.com/LeibelMangel/status ... 9461170180
My grandfather was sent to Auschwitz when he was just 10 years old. During his time there, he had two face to face encounters with the notorious Dr. Mengele. These are those two encounters:

My grandfather, his older sister, and his parents were waiting in line at the gates of Auschwitz for the selection process. Those sent to the left, were sent directly to the gas chamber. Those sent to the right, were sent to work.

While standing in line, a Sonderkommando came up to his mother and told her to get rid of her young child because Dr Mengele would send young children and their mothers to the gas chambers immediately. If she got rid of him, she would have a chance to survive.

When his mother refused to give away my grandfather, the Sonderkommando told her a story: Earlier today a mother with a young child were standing where you are, and a Nazi asked the mother to hand over the child. She refused. He asked one more time. She refused.

The Nazi grabbed the child, & removed the child clothings. He then took rope and tied one end to a truck and the other end to the child’s foot. He then took another rope and tied it to another truck and the other leg. He then ordered the truck to drive in opposite directions..
The child was split in half right in front of his mother.
As she screamed, the mother was shot on the spot.

The Sonderkommando urged my great-grandmother to give away her young child so the same wouldn’t happen to them.
She refused.
“I will NEVER give away my child.”
My great-grandfather was a tall & broad man, so he told my grandfather to hide behind him, and maybe Dr Mengele wouldn’t see him.

Their time finally came for the selection. Dr Mengele right away saw my grandfather and asked him to come forward.
He asked him how old he was.
My grandfather said he was 17, hoping Dr Mengele would send him to work.
Dr Mengele started laughing.
“I know you aren’t 17, you can’t be older then 10 or 11, but go with your father (to work).”
A few months later, my grandfather got scarlet fever and was transferred to the “medical facility” in Auschwitz.
A faciltiy where medical experiments were performed mostly on children.

He had been there for a couple of days when in walked Dr Mengele.

Dr Mengele walked over to the Nazi in charge of this barrack, pointed at my grandfather and said: “ I am going to do an experiment on him.”
I am going to try and find a specific nerve in his neck and give him an injection.. If I find the nerve, this boy will be paralyzed for life, and if I can’t find it he will be dead in a matter of moments.

My grandfather heard this exchange, and as sick and weak as he was, he jumped off his top bunk and started screaming as he ran towards Dr Mengele:
“Experiments are for monkeys, not for children!”
Dr Mengele reached for the pistol on his waist, and my grandfather thought that this was how his life was going to end.
Dr Mengele held his pistol for moment while staring directly at my grandfather...
Then walked out of the room.
My grandfather never saw Dr Mengele again.
Two years ago, my grandfather once again walked through the gates of Auschwitz accompanied by a soldier.
His grandson. A soldier in the Israeli Defense Forces.
My inspiration. My hero. My grandfather.
Rabbi Nissen Mangel


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Re: The Most Ridiculous Testimony

Postby slob » 4 months 2 weeks ago (Thu May 02, 2019 6:43 pm)

Sorry, but all those people are stark raving lunatics, they are all certifiably ruddy INSANE! :wtf:
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Re: The Most Ridiculous Testimony

Postby Lamprecht » 4 months 2 weeks ago (Sat May 04, 2019 5:42 pm)

According to Stanislav Grof in his 1985 book "Beyond the Brain: Birth, Death, and Transcendence in Psychotherapy" - Jews were drowned in poop for the evil Nazis' twisted enjoyment, and forced to pee in each other's mouths!
In many instances, prisoners were forced to urinate in each other's face or into each other's mouths. They were allowed to go to the latrines only twice a day and those who tried to get to them at night risked being shot by the guards; this forced some prisoners to use their eating bowls as chamber pots. In Birkenau, soup bowls were periodically taken from the prisoners and thrown into the latrines, from which the prisoners had to retrieve them.

The inmates in the Nazi camps were literally drowning in their own waste, and death in and by excrement was quite common. One of the favorite games of the SS was to catch men during the act of relieving themselves and throw them into the pit; in Buchenwald, ten prisoners suffocated in feces in a single month as a result of this perverted entertainment.
Source: https://books.google.com/books?id=OX8WG ... 22&f=false
or https://archive.is/Fb2F2#selection-79765.143-79801.354

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Nazis used dogs to rape jew women, their favorite form of amusement at Auschwitz, from the book "Feminism, Literature and Rape Narratives: Violence and Violation":
The Jewish physician Olga Lengyel was the first survivor to have her testimony published in English (Lengyel 1947). She narrates the particularly chilling story of a mother who told her ‘that she was forced to undress her daughter and to look on while the girl was violated by dogs whom the Nazis had specially trained for this sport’. Apparently, this was a ‘favourite form of amusement’ in Auschwitz (Lengyel 1995: 193).
from: https://books.google.com/books?id=L3m6z ... 22&f=false
or https://web.archive.org/web/20190504230 ... 010%29.pdf




Nazis laughed as they made Jews eat a baby at Auschwitz:
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From: "Shivitti: A Vision" (1989) by Yehiel De-Nur. pg 50-51
https://books.google.com/books?id=okAOA ... er+baby%22





On December 15, 1944, The Polish Jewish Observer (a subscription-only supplement to The City & East London Observer) reported on the five-day long communist show trial of four SS men and two German kapos who worked at Majdanek:
German intention to murder many millions more was supported by the statement, Jan Sobolewski, Secretary of the Polish-Soviet Investigation Committee, he said that "sufficient gas had been prepared and stored at Majdanek to kill at least 4,000,000 more people.

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Re: The Most Ridiculous Testimony

Postby Horhug » 4 months 1 week ago (Fri May 10, 2019 8:49 am)

Nazis killed Jews with magic atomic bomb...




The Value of Testimony and Confessions Concerning the Holocaust
http://vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndvalue.html
by Manfred Köhler

- blast 20,000 Jews into the twilight zone with atomic bombs; [381]

[381] IMT, op. cit. (note. 127), v. XVI, p. 529



disillusioned wrote:Nazis killed Jews with magic atomic bomb...

Post by disillusioned » 1 decade 4 years ago (Mon Jun 14, 2004 4:20 am)
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1150&p=7089#p7089

Interesting quote:

MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: Now, I have certain information, which was placed in my hands, of an experiment which was carried out near Auschwitz and I would like to ask you [Albert Speer] if you heard about it or knew about it. The purpose of the experiment was to find a quick and complete way of destroying people without the delay and trouble of shooting and gassing and burning, as it had been carried out, and this is the experiment, as I am advised. A village, a small village was provisionally erected, with temporary structures, and in it approximately 20,000 Jews were put. By means of this newly invented weapon of destruction, these 20,000 people were eradicated almost instantaneously, and in such a way that there was no trace left of them; that it developed the explosive developed, temperatures of from 400 to 500 degrees centigrade and destroyed them without leaving any trace at all.

Does anyone know where this came from? What is the story behind this? I found it on a web-site without references...


Hannover wrote:
My records indicate this source for that:

Nuremberg trial transcript IMT XVI pp. 579-580 (German text)

- Hannover


Nuremberg Trial Proceedings : Blue Series : IMT Vol XVI pp. 579-580
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/06-21-46.asp

Nowadays, it is difficult to believe that CD Jackson at Nuremberg, actually felt the need to ask such a question.

Hysterical doesn't quite cover it imo.

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Re: The Most Ridiculous Testimony

Postby Lamprecht » 3 months 2 weeks ago (Tue May 28, 2019 6:06 pm)

Lt. Cmdr. Taylor was the first witness for the prosecution in the Mauthausen case, which was brought before an American Military Tribunal at Dachau. When asked by prosecutor Lt. Col. William Denson, on direct examination, how many different forms of killing that he had come in contact with at Mauthausen, Taylor testified as follows:
Gassing, hanging, shooting, beating. There was one particular group of Dutch Jews who were beaten until they jumped over the cliff into the stone quarry. Some that were not killed on the first fall were taken back up and thrown over to be sure. Then there was exposure. Any new transport coming in was forced to stand out in the open, regardless of the time of the year, practically naked. Other forms of killing included clubbing to death with axes or hammers and so forth, tearing to pieces by dogs specially trained for the purpose, injections into the heart and veins with magnesium chloride or benzene, whippings with a cow-tail to tear the flesh away, mashing in a concrete mixer, forcing them to drink a great quantity of water and jumping on the stomach while the prisoner was lying on his back, freezing half-naked in subzero temperatures, buried alive, red-hot poker down the throat. I remember a very prominent Czech general who was held down in the shower room and had a hose forced down his throat. He drowned that way.
Joshua Greene (2007) 'Justice at Dachau: The Trials of an American Prosecutor'
https://books.google.com/books?id=qK59K ... 22&f=false or https://archive.is/6leU3#selection-14052.0-14052.1



See also a recent thread:

Testimonies of nazis drowning Jews in swimming pools
viewtopic.php?t=12468
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Re: The Most Ridiculous Testimony

Postby Lamprecht » 3 months 1 week ago (Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:12 pm)

Member "forasanerworld" showed me this newspaper clipping, where Nazis allegedly killed over one hundred Jews per hour using injections of air bubbles.
Nazi plan for wiping out Jews to be outlined
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To speed the slaughter of the other half during the remaining months before the edict's deadline, Dr. Wise said the nazis were moving some four-fifths of the Jews in Hitler-ruled European countries to Poland. There, he said nazi doctors were killing them at the rate of "more than 100 an hour, per doctor," by injecting air bubbles into their veins-"the simplest and cheapest method" they could find.

Sarasota Herald-Tribune - 25 November 1942. Page 5. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid= ... page&hl=en

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Postby borjastick » 3 months 1 week ago (Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:14 am)

Interesting aside: Sir Anthony Beevor British celebrated author on many war related books such as Stalingrad being interviewed on a BBC news programme the other day about D-Day. He mentioned the rather useless nature of witness statements by using the 911 experience of a NY school teacher who asked his students to write down what they saw the day after 911. Ten years later he asked the same students to write down what they saw on 911. Apparently the two statements were completely at odds with each other.

Not sure where the proof of this is, perhaps it is well documented. The point is those who claim, many years after an event, that they know what happened and remember it well are probably telling porkies.
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Postby Lamprecht » 3 months 1 week ago (Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:52 am)

Yep, I went into detail on some reasons why people give false testimony in Hannover's thread:

Re: Does the strong Jew tendency towards mental illness assist in their 'holocaust' fantasies?
viewtopic.php?t=12239#p91024

I explain how children form memories differently than adults. But in some cases, the memories are completely invented out of nowhere. For example:

German blogger and PhD historian alleged to have invented Holocaust family history
viewtopic.php?t=12493
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Re: The Most Ridiculous Testimony

Postby Lamprecht » 1 month 1 week ago (Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:33 pm)

Electrocution conveyor belts
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Guard dog trained to castrate jews; Escaped the gas chamber by hiding in a pile of clothes
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Testimony of Auschwitz inmate Renee Salt - Attacked by Nazi bull




Testimony of Hanan Rachel - Making sausages from dead jews




Testimony of Benjamin Lesser - Germans smashed a baby's head against the door, causing its brains to fall out




Human skin lampshade at Buchenwald
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https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=B ... %2C2777938 or https://archive.is/SLd1i



JANKIEL WIERNIK (4 January 1947):
Witness: - I should also tell you how it was with the burning of bodies. At first, the corpses were thrown into the pits – by February there were already more than 2.5 million corpses. When Himmler visited the camp and ordered the excavation of all corpses and their incineration. Then the diggers came and they began to dig up the pits. Rails were put over metal pillars on which the corpses were then piled and set on fire. There was another fact that I remember too. On these piles were stacked three thousand or more old, young, men, women, pregnant women. Everything was engulfed in flames, and the bellies burst open at this high temperature and the babies jumped out alive. There were various shocking sights.

Chairman: - Live babies jumped from the wombs of their burning mothers?

Witness: - Yes, alive, but not for long.
Minutes of the main trial (stenographic record) in the case of Fischer and others, dated 4.I, 7.I, 8.I.1947; volume V - https://archive.is/ANQoK#selection-3351.0-3375.0


More on Wiernik:

"eyewitness" Yankel Wiernik at Treblinka
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'Holocaust Industy's' Roberto Muehlenkamp cites Yankel Wiernik as proof of extermination of 900,000 Jews at Treblinka !!
viewtopic.php?t=11271

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Ilya Ehrenburg informed us in August 1944, that there were German "death factories", which could each asphyxiate 2,000 people per day, in:

- Bolshoy Trostyanets (Maly Trostenets, Belarus)
- Ponari (Ponary), near Vilinus, Lithuania
- Belzhetse, near Rava Russkaya (he probably meant Belzec, which is 12 miles from Rava-Ruska)
- Novoy Dvor (probably Nowy Dwór, Mazowiecki, 19 miles NW of Warsaw)
- Sabibor (meaning Sobibor)

The legends of the asphyxiation "death factories" in Belzhetse (Belzec) and Sabibor (Sobibor) endure, as do Ehrenburg's "gas wagons" at Bolshoy Trostyanets (Maly Trostenets). But Ehrenburg's asphyxiation death factory in Ponary was long ago changed to the site of mass shootings. As for Novoy Dvor (presuming he meant Nowy Dwór Mazowiecki), its Jews were deported to Auschwitz, and although there was a ghetto there, it's not now claimed to have been a site of mass execution, let alone the location of an asphyxiation death factory.

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PM Daily (NY), Sunday, August 13, 1944, p.4



Gas came from the floor at Auschwitz
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Standard story is the "Kula columns" which are demolished here: viewtopic.php?t=10949



Baby survived gas chamber
A baby survived its mother’s murder in the Nazi showers. David Faber, a teenager imprisoned at the concentration camp, found it, still suckling, as he pried open its gassed mother’s cold embrace.
https://archive.is/TvQu
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Re: The Most Ridiculous Testimony

Postby Lamprecht » 1 week 2 days ago (Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:50 pm)

Brasse has already been covered in a previous post: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7033&p=91869&hilit=brasse#p91869

In this article, he claims witnessing a Mengele experiment here "The victims, women, were anaesthetized... Their uteruses were pulled out through their vaginas and I was forced to photograph the organs in detail."
Photographer tricked Nazis to save Auschwitz images

Published on March 13, 2009

Wilhelm Brasse was put through daily torture photographing the horrors of the Auschwitz death camp but the young Pole pulled a fast one over his Nazi captors to make sure the terrible events were not forgotten.

Brasse, now 91, had to take pictures of women whose genitals were butchered by Nazi "Angel of Death" Josef Mengele, of Jewish prisoners arriving at the camp to go to the gas chamber and even of the camp brothel where women were turned into sex slaves.
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Brasse was also forced to document inhuman pseudo-medical experiments performed by Mengele and other doctors.

"The victims, women, were anaesthetized,” said Brasse. “Their uteruses were pulled out through their vaginas and I was forced to photograph the organs in detail."
https://archive.is/qXDnc or http://web.archive.org/web/201909080445 ... tz-images/
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Re: The Most Ridiculous Testimony

Postby Lamprecht » 5 days 19 hours ago (Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:08 pm)

Henryka Shaw claims shooting executions were halted due to lack of Zyklon B. The Zyklon B was needed to burn the bodies she says. This confused liar doesn't even know the official story. No-one ever claimed Zyklon B was used to burn bodies.





Testimony of Paula Lebovics. She tells us her family were axed to death by their Polish neighbours and later she escaped a bullet in the head thanks to a drunk SS man.





Paula Lebovics tells us the sadistic nazis checked butts for jewellery....they never found Irene Zisblatt's diamonds.

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Re: The Most Ridiculous Testimony

Postby borjastick » 5 days 11 hours ago (Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:39 am)

I was watching an episode of World at War last week and it included an interview with an ex SS soldier, don't recall his name. he was discussing the 'truth' of the gassings there. Then of course, deliberately or otherwise he dropped the big on. 'After the gassing the doors was opened and a large blue plume came out'.
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'

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