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Poland plans to punish use of the phrase 'Polish death camps'

Postby phdnm » 2 years 9 months ago (Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:26 am)

People who use the term could face up to five years in prison
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Poland plans to punish use of the phrase 'Polish death camps'


02/13/2016

Justice minister says Poles ‘are blasphemed’ by phrase that suggests country was responsible for Nazi atrocities on its soil

Poland is drawing up new regulations to punish use of the phrase “Polish death camps” in reference to wartime Nazi concentration camps on Polish soil, the justice minister, Zbigniew Ziobro, has said.

Poland has long sought to eliminate the misleading phrase from historical and newspaper accounts since it suggests the country, which was occupied by Nazi Germany during the second world war, was responsible for concentration camps on its territory.

The Nazis operated many of their most infamous death camps, such as Auschwitz-Birkenau, Sobibór and Treblinka complexes, in occupied Poland rather than in Germany.

“This will be a project that meets the expectations of Poles, who are blasphemed in the world, in Europe, even in Germany, that they are the Holocaust perpetrators, that in Poland there were Polish concentration camps, Polish gas chambers,” Ziobro told Polish radio station RMF.

“Enough with this lie. There has to be responsibility,” he said.

The phrase “Polish death camps” was usually found only in foreign publications, almost never in Poland itself.

Ziobro said he had presented the project to the prime minister, Beata Szydło, and she reacted positively.



http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/f ... eath-camps


Auschwitz museum develops app to detect ‘Polish death camps’ errors


16.02.2016

The Auschwitz museum in Poland has developed a computer programme to “correct memory errors” related to the incorrect use of “Polish death camps” in articles.

“The Auschwitz camp was built by the German state on the territory of occupied Poland forcibly incorporated into the Third Reich,” Auschwitz Museum director Piotr Cywiński was quoted as saying in a statement announcing the release of the application.

He added that this fact “is obvious for all those who visit the authentic site of the Memorial or read [its] publications. We also underline this through our activities on the Internet. However, every once in a while in the media, this false statement appears, very painful to bear for Poles.”

The Remember application can be downloaded for free, and works with word-processing software on both PC and Mac. It will indicate that the term “Polish death camps” is erroneous and offer a suggested change.

“We decided to make use of the primary tool used by text writers and create an easy to install add-on that finds the mistake made and suggests a correct phrase,” added Agnieszka Heidrich, from the company which developed the app.

The application is designed to search for errors in 16 languages, the majority of which are used by educators who guide visitors at the Auschwitz Memorial. However, work is ongoing to include more languages.

Poland's Justice Minister recently announced that a new bill could see the country pressing charges over reports in the international media about “Polish death camps” in relation to Nazi German WWII compounds.

“This will be a bill that meets the expectations of Poles, who are accused around the world – in Europe, even in Germany, that they are the perpetrators of the Holocaust; that in Poland there are 'Polish concentration camps, Polish gas chambers',” Zbigniew Ziobro, who will shortly also take on the role of public prosecutor, told the RMF FM station.

People who use the term could face up to five years in prison.


http://www.thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/24091 ... ymCTt.dpuf



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Re: Poland plans to punish use of the phrase 'Polish death camps'

Postby hermod » 2 years 9 months ago (Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:11 am)

Understandable. Most people are so dumb and ignorant that I would also try to ban the ambiguous and misleading term 'Polish death camps' if I were a Polish leader. Moreover this term is useless because the slow agony of the Holohoax has now billeted all the remaining [alleged] Nazi death camps on Polish soil anyway.
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Re: Poland plans to punish use of the phrase 'Polish death camps'

Postby Hektor » 2 years 9 months ago (Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:51 pm)

What do they call the camps for ethnic Germans then?

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Re: Poland plans to punish use of the phrase 'Polish death camps'

Postby Dresden » 2 years 9 months ago (Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:32 pm)

Hektor said:

"What do they call the camps for ethnic Germans then?"

Hotels.
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Re: Poland plans to punish use of the phrase 'Polish death camps'

Postby Mulegino1 » 2 years 9 months ago (Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:59 pm)

hermod wrote:Understandable. Most people are so dumb and ignorant that I would also try to ban the ambiguous and misleading term 'Polish death camps' if I were a Polish leader. Moreover this term is useless because the slow agony of the Holohoax has now billeted all the remaining [alleged] Nazi death camps on Polish soil anyway.


I agree. The Poles are at least not as wretchedly servile to the Holocaust fraud as the pitiful western Europeans (above all Germany and France) and have just made it pretty hard for international Jewry to extort reparations from them. It's almost like a judo throw by the Poles of the Shoah Business.

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Re: Poland plans to punish use of the phrase 'Polish death camps'

Postby torus » 2 years 9 months ago (Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:46 pm)

My, my, everyone is soooo sensitive. It's becoming a hideous caricature of Monty Python. What's next; cosmetic departments are to do away with "Polish Remover"?

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Re: Poland plans to punish use of the phrase 'Polish death camps'

Postby Dresden » 2 years 9 months ago (Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:04 am)

torus said:

"My, my, everyone is soooo sensitive. It's becoming a hideous caricature of Monty Python. What's next; cosmetic departments are to do away with "Polish Remover"?"

How many Polacks did it take to come up with the plan to outlaw "Polish Death Camps"? :santa_thumb:
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Re: Poland plans to punish use of the phrase 'Polish death camps'

Postby Maly Jacek » 2 years 9 months ago (Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:05 am)

From what I understand its is undertaking of their new government - that's been going on for years and if I remember right even Obama used that phrase in one of his speeches. Whatever happens lets not expect a lot - for many reason Poles will uphold the "official" version as it suits their purposes. Just remember what happened to doctor Ratajczak for mere presenting Revisionists views in one of his essays

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Re: Poland plans to punish use of the phrase 'Polish death camps'

Postby Hektor » 2 years 9 months ago (Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:43 pm)

Maly Jacek wrote:From what I understand its is undertaking of their new government - that's been going on for years and if I remember right even Obama used that phrase in one of his speeches. Whatever happens lets not expect a lot - for many reason Poles will uphold the "official" version as it suits their purposes. Just remember what happened to doctor Ratajczak for mere presenting Revisionists views in one of his essays

That sums it up.

Obama rewrites Holocaust History:


The Poles should be careful, because the Holocaust ideology is also directed against them, Thomasz Gabis did research this:
http://vho.org/VffG/1999/4/Gabis410-417.html
https://archive.org/details/Religiaholo ... t-religion
Holocaust Religion‚
In two recent issues of this self-described "conservative and liberal" journal (No. 29 [1996] and No. 30 [1997]), chief editor Tomasz Gabis forthrightly tackles the hottest of hot issues with an impressively written and well-referenced two-part, 57-page essay on the "Holocaust religion". "The Holocaust", he points out, is not treated as a chapter of real human history, but instead is ceaselessly presented as an ever-relevant, quasi-religious "myth".

As Gabis explains, the Holocaust has not only come to play a pivotal role in Jewish religious life and the collective Jewish consciousness, but has become a central element in the cultural, political and intellectual life of the contemporary West, with a profound impact on relations between Jews and non-Jews.

Although the core of this "myth" is Jewish, the Holocaust has been universalized through the mass media and public education, becoming an obligatory prism through which we are expected to view the past, especially 20th century history. Fundamentally not comparable to any other chapter of history, the "Holocaust" is a "cosmic" event marking an entirely new era in human relations. Since Auschwitz, is claimed, we can never again look at Western civilization, Christianity and even God in the same way.

Like any other potent religion, Gabis notes, the Holocaust has its own shrines, sacred texts, saints, relics, rituals, taboos and heretics. "High priest" Ellie Wiesel insists that what he calls "The Event" must be viewed with a kind of mystical reverence. Implicit in Holocaust theology is the doctrine of collective guilt (especially for Germans, but increasingly for all non-Jewish humanity), and the notion that Jewish deaths weigh more heavily than those of non-Jews. To the extent that Christian, and especially Roman Catholic, leaders embrace this Holocaust religion, they accept a "Judaization" of Christianity, and betray their own religious principles and heritage.

Because no people, aside from the Germans, has been so stigmatized by this new religion as the Poles, the Jewish Holocaust along with the Jewish parasitism and ingratitude are the basic source of the Polish-Jewish tension.
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Re: Poland plans to punish use of the phrase 'Polish death camps'

Postby Maly Jacek » 2 years 9 months ago (Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:04 am)

That YouTube video - priceless :) reminds me what one of the Jews said after Wilkomirski( "victim" of Nazi medical experiment in Auschwitz born in Switzerland in 1947) had been exposed as fraud "Maybe he wasn't in Auschwitz after all but his grief was genuine"...no comments

As for Poles - almost like Bendel with his "It can only be done with German methods " claim - totally brainwashed by years of anti-German communist's propaganda, sad to say that also includes Polish relatives of my mother. In my view they are simply afraid that questioning official "holo" version will eventually lead to the same questions asked about certain aspects of Polish history of WWII.

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Re: Poland plans to punish use of the phrase 'Polish death camps'

Postby phdnm » 3 months 2 weeks ago (Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:20 pm)

Top German court sides with broadcaster in Nazi camp row


German broadcaster ZDF will not have to post a specifically worded apology as demanded by a Polish court after calling WWII Nazi camps "Polish death camps." The court ruling runs the risk of Polish castigation.

21.08.2018

German public broadcaster ZDF cannot be forced to post the specifically worded apology demanded by a Polish court after mistakenly calling two World War II Nazi camps "Polish death camps," the Federal Court of Justice (BGH) ruled on Tuesday.

The TV station referred to Majdanek and Auschwitzas "Polish death camps" in advertising a 2013 documentary.

After the Polish embassy in Berlin complained, ZDF changed the wording to "German death camps on Polish territory."

Damage to national pride

Auschwitz survivor Karol Tendera then launched legal action, demanding the broadcaster publish an apology that he had formulated. A court in Krakow ruled ZDF had damaged Tendera's dignity and Polish national identity and should post the apology on its website for 30 days.

The description was changed online and the broadcaster twice apologized for the error, publishing the plaintiff's text from December 2016 to January 2017.

However, Tendera felt the measure insufficient and sought to have the original Polish ruling enforced.

Lower German courts concurred, but the BGH disagreed, arguing the required formulation would violate the broadcaster's right to freedom of opinion.

Ruling would be 'disproportionate'

The court noted that ZDF's original formulation was "clearly wrong," but that the issue was the wording of the apology required by the Polish court, which it said the broadcaster couldn't be required to "publish as its own opinion."

It also found that the punishment was "disproportionate" because the original formulation was online for only four days and ZDF had apologized and published a correction.

Sensitive subjects

The use of the term "Polish concentration camp" by international media outlets has triggered complaints from Poland in recent years.

The government sought to pass controversial legislation that would make it illegal to use the term 'Polish death camp.'


https://www.dw.com/en/top-german-court- ... a-45165870


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