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Why did Auschwitz need crematoriums able to 'burn 5,000 people a day' ?

Postby onetruth » 3 years 8 months ago (Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:10 am)

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According to a war-time German document, the daily incineration capacity of the five Auschwitz crematoria was 4,756 corpses per day.

A letter by the Auschwitz Zentralbauleitung. 796 Dated June 28, 1943 reads as follow :

28 June, 1943.

Concerns: the completion of crematorium 3.

Reference: none

To the SS-Administrative and Economic Head Office,

department C,

SS-Brigadeführer and General Major Dr. Ing. Kammler

Berlin--Lichterfelde--West

Unter den Eichen 120-135.

Report the completion of crematorium 3 at 26 June 1943. Therewith all the crematoria ordered have been completed.

Capacity of the now available crematoria per 24 hours:

1. old crematorim 1

3 x 2 muffle ovens 340 persons

2. new crematorium 2 in KGL

5 x 3 muffle ovens 1,440 persons

3. new crematorium 3

5 x 3 muffle ovens 1,440 persons

4. new crematorium 4

8 muffle oven 768 persons

5. new crematorium 5

8 muffle oven 768 persons

Total per 24 hours 4,756 persons

The leader of the Central Building Administration

of the Waffen SS and Police Auschwitz,

Signed: Jahrling

SS-Sturmbannführer.

Cc: dossier--Janisch

dossier--Kirschnek

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I ask you : why did the Germans needed to build in Auschwitz crematoriums able to burn almost 5,000 people a day ?


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Re: Why did Auschwitz need crematoriums able to burn 5,000 people a day ?

Postby hermod » 3 years 8 months ago (Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:20 am)

No crematory oven of that type could/can cremate around 100 human corpses (per mufle) a day, or around 4 corpses per hour. Reducing a human corpse to ashes in 15 minutes in such ovens is pure sci-fi...
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Re: Why did Auschwitz need crematoriums able to burn 5,000 people a day ?

Postby onetruth » 3 years 8 months ago (Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:45 am)

hermod wrote:No crematory oven of that type could/can cremate around 100 human corpses (per mufle) a day, or around 4 corpses per hour. Reducing a human corpse to ashes in 15 minutes in such ovens is pure sci-fi...


As far as i know that is an original document that was also presented at the Zündel Trial to counter Leuchter's testimony are you disputing that ?

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Re: Why did Auschwitz need crematoriums able to burn 5,000 people a day ?

Postby EtienneSC » 3 years 8 months ago (Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:49 am)

onetruth wrote:I ask you : why did the Germans needed to build in Auschwitz crematoriums able to burn almost 5,000 people a day ?

Carlo Mattogno has discussed this in his works on Auschwitz. As noted above, the figures in this letter are not realistic or authoritative and do not accord with the real functioning of the crematoria.

The reason for the high capacity was to provide a maximum in light of planned expansion of the camp and the possible recurrence of the previous typhus epidemic that had been brought under control.

Mattogno has recently published an enlarged account of the German cremation technology involved.

Subsequent aerial photographs of the camp show the crematoria in use only sporadically.

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Re: Why did Auschwitz need crematoriums able to burn 5,000 people a day ?

Postby Hannover » 3 years 8 months ago (Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:05 am)

Why? Well, they didn't. That's why.

This bogus, 4,756 'document' is such old news. Been there, done that.
In the session of 5th March 1946 the Soviet interrogator wanted to know:[27]

"How many bodies were cremated per hour at Auschwitz?"

Prüfer (builder of the crematorium) responded:
"In a crematory with 5 ovens and 15 muffles, fifteen bodies were cremated."
This means an average cremation time of one hour per body per muffle and indicates that the theoretical maximum capacity of Crematory IV (and each of the ovens of Crematory V as well) in a 24 hour period was 192 bodies.

At his interrogation on 19th March 1946 Prüfer elaborated as follows:[28]

"I have mentioned the enormous load to which the overtaxed ovens were subjected. I told Chief Engineer Sander I was worried about whether the ovens could withstand the excessive load. In my presence, two bodies were placed in one muffle, instead of a single body, and the ovens were unable to handle the load"

and:
SS Kurt Prufer, told the officers of SMERSCH (according to documents found in the Moscow archives) that only one body at a time could be cremated per muffle and that the cremation time took 60 minutes, and that they tried to cremate 2 bodies at a time; but the temperature inside the muffle went so high that it damaged the oven.
and:
- There was a total 52 muffles of Auschwitz, never used simultaneously.

- 38 is the most that were ever online simultaneously.

- The 6 at Auschwitz I were taken out of action as soon as the new ones at Birkenau came online. These were in turn liable to long periods of breakdowns and even idleness.

- If there was a program of mass extermination, the desperate need for cremation capacity is obvious. Why then put six muffles out of action?

- In August 1942, at the main camp, 9000 prisoners died. According to Believer & profiteer John Zimmerman, Auschwitz I would have had a cremation capacity of about 4,680 per month (26 per muffle daily on average, as at Gusen).
So the cremation capacity was about half of what it needed to be during the typhus epidemic.
At the same time, the camp was planned to hold an eventual inmate population of 200,000 (a seven-fold increase from August 1942, at less than 30,000).
Therefore, in August 1942, the very month that 'Auschwitz expert' van Pelt claims the homicidal adaptation of the crematoria was initiated, the Auschwitz Bauleitung authorities should have requested a crematoria construction program which should have produced capacities almost 14 times greater than the 6 muffles of Auschwitz I at the time. In 1943, when the camp population reached about 140,000, the number of muffles was just over 6 times greater than August 1942, because Crematorium IV broke down and was not repaired (mothballed) and Crematorium I at the main camp was converted into an air-raid shelter. There were 38 muffles.

- Why use exactly the same cremation techniques as in normal concentration camps, installing coke-fired ovens, even by the thirties a crude and primitive solution? More efficient gas-fired and electrical crematoria had by this time already been used for years in many countries, including my own. For the purpose the SS should naturally have sought out the most efficient answer they were able to find.

- If the extermination myth was true, the SS must from the start have had some idea of how many victims were to be gassed and burned. It's a simple matter of math, and then naturally founded on estimates made by the constructors, in this case Topf & Söhne. Why then not build the installations required. It doesn't make sense.

- There are no human remains to support the storyline.

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Re: Why did Auschwitz need crematoriums able to burn 5,000 people a day ?

Postby Hannover » 3 years 8 months ago (Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:12 am)

David Irving shredded the 4,765 'document' in court, here:
http://www.hdot.org/en/trial/transcript ... 1-155.html

Even the Industry's J.C. Pressac himself disregards the veracity of the document: it has "no basis in practice, and probably has to be divided by two or three to arrive at a true figure" [see Pressac, p.244]
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1650

Quasi-Believer Fritjof Meyer even said this 4,756 'document' was BS
see:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=626

onetruth has stepped on a landmine.

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Re: Why did Auschwitz need crematoriums able to burn 5,000 people a day ?

Postby Hannover » 3 years 8 months ago (Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:24 am)

The rout is on, from another thread:
There can be no reasonable doubt that that "document" is fake:
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Manfred Gerner has mentioned the ridiculous mistake in the address field concerning the rank of SS-Brigadeführer Dr.-Ing. Hans Kammler in that "document".
There were two different ranks for a SS-Brigadeführer within the SS or the SD and the Sicherheitspolizei (Sipo, = Security Police) or the Ordungspolizei:

a) SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor der Waffen-SS (SS-Brigadeführer and Major General of the Waffen-SS) and
b) SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor der Polizei (SS-Brigadeführer and Major General of the Police)

That "document" is the only one, in which this distinction is not made:
SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor [sic!] Dr.-Ing. Kammler

The forger either wasn't aware of that undispensable detail or he had no interest to make his fabrication a convincing one (e.g. if he were a former member of the Zentralbauleitung, who was forced to assist the forgers in manufacturing their fake "documents").

Moreover this "document" was intended to be made look like it was dictated by SS-Untersturmführer Janisch (that's why the abbreviation Ja shows up in the file number), but the forgers again weren't successful: They added a full stop after those two letters. What a pity that there is no single authentic letter in the Moscow archives with such a full stop, but 50 without it. :mrgreen:

There isn't one single real document from this period of time either, which was typed by a typist with the abbreviation Ne. for Janisch, but 49 were typed by L. and another one by Lm.

And last, but not least, the forger made another grave mistake with the file-number of that fake "document": 31550/Ja./Ne.

As mentioned before, he added a full-stop after Ja, but he omitted the year after the file number. It should have been: 31550/43/Ja/Ne.

They do say, you have to take in consideration quite a lot of details, if you want to be a successful forger! :mrgreen:

Manfred Gerner wrote:5.2. BRIEFTAGEBUCHZEILE

Die Brieftagebuchzeile aller Fassungen ist falsch. Auf vier Fassungen sieht sie gleichmäßig wie folgt aus, auf der fünften fehlt sie:

31550/Ja./Ne.

Eine vollständige und richtige Brieftagebuchzeile enthält jedoch eine weitere Angabe, nämlich das Kalenderjahr. Nach uns vorliegenden richtigen Dokumenten müßte die Zeile wie folgt aussehen:

31550/43/Ja/Ne.

Die erste Zahl steht für die Brieftagebuchnummer, sie wurde fortlaufend vergeben für alle auslaufenden und eingehenden Briefe, solange die Zentralbauleitung bestand. [...] Die zweite Zahl in der Zeile steht für das Kalenderjahr. Das darauf folgende Kurzzeichen gehört zum Verfasser des Briefes. Das ist hier der Bauleiter Untersturmführer Janisch. Das abschließende Kurzzeichen gehört zu dem, der das Schreiben fertigte. Meistens wurde auf Durchschlägen die Bftgb.Nr. von Hand eingetragen (Anlagen 3 und 4). [...]

5.2. NICHT EXISTIERENDE SCHREIBKRAFT

Wir haben nun unseren nicht geringen, chronologisch geordneten Aktenbestand durchgesehen, und zwar vom 1.4.1943 (Bftgb. 26218) bis zum 18.9.1943 (Bftgb. 36428) und nach besonderen Kriterien in einer gefertigten Liste geprüft. Erstes Kriterium war, alle Schreiben mit dem Zeichen »Ja.« und mit dem Zeichen »Ne.« zu suchen. Hierdurch konnten wir eindeutig klären, daß es kein zweites Schreiben mit dem Zeichen Ne. gibt. (Mit und ohne Punkt.)

Als zweites Kriterium wählten wir Schreiben mit dem Zeichen »Ja.« (der Punkt hinter »Ja« ist hierbei wesentlich). Wir fanden nicht ein Exemplar. Hingegen fanden wir 50 Exemplare mit dem Zeichen »Ja« (Also ohne Punkt.)

Natürlich wollten wir dann wissen, wer schrieb für »Ja« als Schreibkraft. Ergebnis: 49 Schreiben »L.« und eines »Lm.« in unseren Beständen. Ferner fanden wir 3 Schreiben die für Bischoff und Jährling von »L.« gefertigt waren.

Geklärt ist mit dieser Untersuchung, daß es in der fraglichen Zeit in der ZBL keine Person gab, die unter dem Zeichen Ne. schrieb.

Nach vorstehenden Feststellungen sind wir dann noch weiter gegangen und haben das gesamte Jahr 1943 geprüft. Eine Veränderung im Ergebnis ergab sich nicht. [...]

5.4. Dienstgradbezeichnung

Alle Fassungen haben eine falsche Dienstgradbezeichnung des Briefempfängers. Es gab in der Waffen-SS nur den zusätzlichen Dienstgrad »und Generalmajor der Waffen-SS«, wie auf Anlage 1 ausgeführt.

Wir haben, wie oben geschildert, auch diesen Fehler geprüft. Im eingegrenzten Bereich fanden wir 5 Schreiben mit richtiger Anschrift von »Ja« verfaßt, darunter 4 mit dem weiteren Zeichen »L.« und eines mit »Lm.« Die auf das gesamte Jahr 1943 erweiterte Untersuchung ergab sehr viele weitere richtig adressierte Briefe. Eines, wie das inkriminierte Exemplar, mit lediglich der Bezeichnung »Generalmajor«, fand sich nicht!

Source: http://www.vho.org/VffG/1998/3/Gerner3.html

Carlo Mattogno makes another good point in his article about that "document", when he mentions that there originally was a document with this file-number in the files of the Zentralbauleitung - most probably a simple report on the completion of crematorium III, roughly like this:
Sir,
Herewith I report completion of crematorium III.
The building has been taken over by the Camp Commander of KL Auschwitz.

Moreover that fake "document" contains things which shouldn't be contained in it and omits others which should be contained:
Carlo Mattogno wrote:1. Die laufende Nummer in der Brieftagebuchzeile des Briefes - 31550 - taucht auch in der »Aufstellung der bereits übergebenen Bauwerke an die Standortverwaltung«[14] zu Beginn des Jahres 1943 auf, so daß es keinen Zweifel geben kann, daß sich ein Schreiben mit dieser Nummer auf die »Fertigstellung des Krematoriums III« bezogen haben muß. [...]

Lassen Sie mich dies erklären: Die Meldung der »Fertigstellung« eines Bauwerkes an das SS-WVHA (Wirtschafts-Verwaltungshauptamt) erfolgte in Erfüllung eines besonderen Befehls von Kammler vom 6. April 1943:[16]

»Zur Beurteilung der Tätigkeit der Baudienststellen und zur Überwachung der befohlenen Baufristen ist es unbedingt erforderlich, daß sämtliche nachgeordneten Dienststellen die Fertigstellung eines Bauwerkes oder Bauvorhabens umgehend melden.

Ich ordne daher folgendes an:

1) Nach Fertigstellung eines Bauwerks bzw. nach Inbetriebnahme desselben ist mit der hausverwaltenden Dienstelle eine Übergabeverhandlung zu tätigen. Das Ergebnis dieser Verhandlung ist in einer Niederschrift festzuhalten. [...]«

Dieser Befehl Kammlers verlangte also, daß ihm die Fertigstellung eines Bauwerks gemeldet werden müsse unter Angabe der jeweiligen Übergabeverhandlung, und zwar dem folgenden Muster folgend, das bei allen derartigen Dokumenten eingehalten wurde (vgl. Abbildung):[17]

»Melde die Fertigstellung des Schornsteines-Krematorium BW 11 und Pumpenhauses b.d. Hauptwache BW 29.

Die Bauwerke sind an die Kommandantur des K.L. Auschwitz (Btgb. Nr. 20744/43/Ki/Pa) übernomen worden.« [That's a mistake of Mattogno - it should read: "...übergeben worden, R.]

Aus diesem Grunde enthält die zuvor erwähnte und in Erfüllung dieses Kammler-Befehls erstellte »Aufstellung der bereits übergebenen Bauwerke an die Standortverwaltung« u.a. die Brieftagebuchnummern der Briefe, mit denen die Übergabeprotokolle der jeweiligen Bauwerke an die Kommandantur des K.L. Auschwitz weitergeleitet wurden, das Datum der Übergabe und die Brieftagebuchnummer der »Meldung an Amtsgruppenchef C«.

Wenn also das Protokoll der Übergabeverhandlung von Krematorium III am 24. Juni 1943 geschrieben[18] und am gleichen Tag an die Kommandantur weitergeleitet wurde,[19] und wenn die Standortverwaltung das Krematorium III am 25. Juni offiziell übernommen hat,[14] warum befindet sich dann im hier behandelten Schreiben vom 28. Juni kein Bezug auf diese Vorgänge? Dies sind Dinge, die nicht in diesem Dokument enthalten sind, dort aber enthalten sein müßten.

Die Meldung der »Fertigstellung« eines Bauwerks war ein rein formeller Vorgang ohne Angabe irgendwelcher technischen Einzelheiten, weshalb das Scheiben vom 28. Juni 1943 mit seinen Ausführungen über die Leistung der Krematorien bürokratisch sinnlos sind - und das ist genau das, was in diesem Brief enthalten ist, dort aber gar nicht hingehört.

Die Auflistung der Krematoriumsleistungen weist zudem zwei weitere Anomalien auf: Vor allem die Verwendung des Begriffs »Personen«, was mir sehr merkwürdig vorkommt. Im Zusammenhang mit Kremierungen würde ich Begriffe wie »Leichen«, »Körper« oder zumindest »Häftlinge« erwarten. [...]

Eine weitere Tatsache, die unsere Aufmerksamkeit verdient, ist, daß der behandelte Brief ein isoliertes Schreiben ohne Bezug zu irgendeinem anderen ist: es gibt kein anderes Dokument, in dem auf die Leistung der Krematorien Bezug genommen wird. Diese Tatsache ist um so seltsamer, als dieser offizielle Brief an den Amtsgruppenchef C des SS-WVHA, SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor der Waffen-SS Kammler gerichtet ist. [...]

Der letzte hier zu untersuchende Punkt ist: wurde dieses Schreiben vom 28. Juni 1943 überhaupt an das SS-WVHA gesandt? Dies hätte, wie zuvor ausgeführt, unweigerlich zu einem Briefwechsel geführt haben, von dem sich im Archiv der Zentralbauleitung aber keine Spur findet. Die Tatsache, daß der Brief von Bischoff nicht unterschrieben wurde, [...]

Source: http://www.vho.org/VffG/2000/1/Mattogno51-56.html


Sailor wrote:Question: You said before that the firm Topf built in crematorium I in the camp section Auschwitz two two-muffle cremation ovens, while in an official report by the SS- Bauleitung of Auschwitz of June 28, 1943, a photo copy of which lies in front of you, is stated that in that crematorium three two-muffle ovens were installed. Give an explanation for this!
Answer: Now I remember, that in crematorium I, which is located in the camp section Auschwitz, the Topf company erected under my participation three and not two cremation ovens, i.e. it is so as explained in the report of the construction management which is in front of me. In this connection I would like to make clear, that the Topf company built in five crematoriums a total of not 20 but 21 cremation ovens.




That's quite an interesting point here (Prüfer "remembers" that there were three double-muffle ovens in the old Krema I instead of only two, as he had said before, when his SMERSH-torturers reminded him.

There have been suspicions that there were in fact only two ovens in Krema I:
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=3239&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
I came across an interesting issue in footnote 18 of an article written by a certain "Knud Bäcker" (pseudonym) in Germar Rudolfs periodical Vierteljahreshefte für freie Geschichtsforschung No. 1/1999, p. 60:
"'At first they [the Germans] built a small crematorium in Auschwitz I with 4 muffles. Then two large crematoria, II and III, were built in Auschwitz II (Birkenau)' (Dr. Filip Friedman, To jest Oswiecim!, Warsaw 1945, p. 72 and Dr. Filip Friedman (Director of the Central Jewish Historical Commission in Poland), Oswiecim - The Story of a Murder Camp, The United Jewish Relief Appeal, London 1946, p. 54). - The alleged installation of a third double-muffle oven in Auschwitz I is not mentioned here. In the 'Broad-Report' as well ' 4 ovens' are mentioned, which can only refer to the 2 double-muffle ovens with their 4 muffles (Rawicz (ed.), KL Auschwitz in den Augen der SS, PMO, 1973, p. 159). Not till the Soviet Pravda-article of 7 May 1945 a third oven is mentioned."
And in footnote 59 on page 61 of the same issue of VffG "Bäcker" quotes Friedman once again and comments:
"[...] Here we have been informed first hand by a member of the Soviet-Polish Commission immediately in 1945 on the real equipment of the 'old' crematorium: Two double-muffle ovens with together four muffles. Not until the Pravda-report of 7 May 1945 three ovens are claimed.”
That would correspond with the two vents on the roof.

[Post of May 06, 2006 11:50 am; as to the only two vents on the roof see polardude's post from May 03, 2006 12:55 am.]
[...] You will notice that the ovens were lighted from the rear side (four stairs are drawn in, which led downstairs to the grate. No. 6 is the coke storage room. So you have a short way from the coke storage to the two ovens. But for the alleged third oven (left) you have to carry the coke the whole way through the entire furnace room! Why wasn't the wall behind the alleged third oven removed and a seperate coke storage built, there would have been enough space in the yard? (see on the photo on the right side!)

[Post of May 07, 2006 4:36 am in above mentioned thread]

So, Prüfer himself said in the SMERSH interrogation, there were only two double-muffle ovens in the old Krema I and it wasn't until he was "reminded" by the SMERSH interrogators that he "remembered" that there were in fact three!

And so much for this 'document'

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Re: Why did Auschwitz need crematoriums able to burn 5,000 people a day ?

Postby hermod » 3 years 8 months ago (Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:56 am)

onetruth wrote:As far as i know that is an original document that was also presented at the Zündel Trial to counter Leuchter's testimony are you disputing that ?


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Re: Why did Auschwitz need crematoriums able to 'burn 5,000 people a day' ?

Postby Hannover » 3 years 8 months ago (Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:57 am)

one truth said:
As far as i know that is an original document that was also presented at the Zündel Trial to counter Leuchter's testimony are you disputing that ?
So how did that work out?
Please give us the court transcripts concerning this 'document. You can, right?

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Re: Why did Auschwitz need crematoriums able to 'burn 5,000 people a day' ?

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Re: Why did Auschwitz need crematoriums able to 'burn 5,000 people a day' ?

Postby Hektor » 3 years 8 months ago (Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:52 pm)

Hannover wrote:one truth said:
As far as i know that is an original document that was also presented at the Zündel Trial to counter Leuchter's testimony are you disputing that ?
So how did that work out?
Please give us the court transcripts concerning this 'document. You can, right?

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Independent from the question whether it is bogus (Which I believe), The assertion made is nonsense for a number of reasons.
- The technical have been mentioned.
- But look on the strurcture of the claim. They assume it would run 24 hours a day without longer interruptions. No maintenance, no cooling periods, etc.
- The crematories weren't used simultaneously. Their usage isn't visible on the air photos for a critical period.

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Re: Why did Auschwitz need crematoriums able to 'burn 5,000 people a day' ?

Postby Breker » 3 years 8 months ago (Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:23 pm)

If 5,000 a day were cremated at Auschwitz then where are human remains that would be left over as proof?
Why don't the aerial photos show the homicidal gassings and then the gigantic cremations in progress?
Where were all the corpses stacked while they awaited cremation?
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Re: Why did Auschwitz need crematoriums able to 'burn 5,000 people a day' ?

Postby Morrison » 3 years 8 months ago (Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:24 pm)

Breker:

If 5,000 a day were cremated at Auschwitz then where are human remains that would be left over as proof?


1:02 in this vid Breker:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=my ... ORM=VRDGAR

What a great quote by Bronowski:

"When people believe that they have absolute knowledge, with no test in reality, this is how they behave..."

They behave in strange ways - like wading into an ordinary pond, bending down, grabbing a handful of ordinary mud and saying the dumbest things - like:

"Into this pond were flushed the ashes of some four million people..."

And they behave like this:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10214&p=76914#p76874

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Re: Why did Auschwitz need crematoriums able to 'burn 5,000 people a day' ?

Postby borjastick » 3 years 8 months ago (Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:50 am)

The hand book of my car says 30mpg and a top speed of 150mph. Doesn't mean that's what I get does it?
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Re: Why did Auschwitz need crematoriums able to 'burn 5,000 people a day' ?

Postby hermod » 3 years 8 months ago (Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:07 am)

Unexpected backlash: Why did an alleged death camp supposedly able to murder 6,000 people each day* have crematories able to incinerate only 1,250 corpses each day - i.e. around one fifth of the number of people allegedly butchered there - at best**? And what did the administrators of the camp do with the very numerous corpses left non-cremated days after days? That made 4,750 corpses left non-cremated after one day (6,000 minus 1,250), 9,500 after two days, 14,250 after three days, 19,000 after four days, and so on. What did the Germans do with the alleged 33,250 corpses (!!) left non-cremated at Auschwitz-Birkenau every week? And cremation pits can't save the day because in the real world you just cannot cremate human corpses in a low-oxygen environment such as a hole, especially in a swamp like Auschwitz.

As you can see, from this perspective, there was nothing genocidal or surprising in building up such crematory facilities at Auschwitz-Birkenau. A crematory capacity of 1,250 corpses per day, and probably even half of that in reality (with cremations during 12 hours a day and cremation times a little longer than one hour), was something normal for a camp having gone through typhus epidemics with 500 dead every day in the past and planned to grow to 200,000 inmates in a near future.

* United States Holocaust Memorial Museum:
During the deportation of Hungarian Jews in the spring of 1944, Auschwitz-Birkenau reached peak killing capacity: the SS gassed as many as 6,000 Jews each day.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php ... d=10007327


** Very optimistic estimate assuming that all the ovens worked nonstop 24/7, without any cooling and heating slowdowns at all, and that only one hour was needed to fully cremate one corpse.

52 mufles X 24 hours = 1,248 corpses cremated at best
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