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Kitty Hart-Moxon full Testimony

Postby onetruth » 3 years 6 months ago (Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:41 am)

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Today i watched Kitty Hart full testimony and I understand why some people here have issues with her. She was a prisoner in Auschwitz for over two years , she testifies she worked in the " kanda " unit for 8 months where they worked in two shifts same as those in the crematorium who worked night and day shifts countering the claim by some here that the crematorium operated only 12 hours a day.

I suggest people would watch the full interview or at list the part relating to Auschwitz before commenting.

Jewish Survivor Kitty Hart-Moxon Testimony Part 1:




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Re: Kitty Hart-Moxon full Testimony

Postby hermod » 3 years 6 months ago (Sun Mar 06, 2016 1:31 pm)

You'd better tell us what is weird in her testimony, or at least point the best moments of it, if you want to make your thread 'live'. IMO, only people incredibly enthusiastic would watch 8 hours of stupid Holo-allegations for fun.
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Re: Kitty Hart-Moxon full Testimony

Postby Hannover » 3 years 6 months ago (Sun Mar 06, 2016 1:59 pm)

Ah yes, this is the incredibly deranged Kitty Hart who said:
I washed in my own urine.

see: Book Reviews
By Lewis Brandon
http://codoh.com/library/document/1944/

and from Steve F.:
'Kitty Felix Hart:Return to Auschwitz'
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7921
Kitty Hart

Here's Kitty's original tale.

Kitty was only 12 years old when the Nazis invaded poland. When the Germans invaded her town, all the Jews had to bow down to passing soldiers or they would be shot.

Leaving the ghetto was punishable by death, but Kitty's family heroically forced Kitty into the sewers at night, so she could leave the ghetto and steal food from somewhere.

In the winter of 1940-41, even though leaving the ghetto was punishable by death, Kitty managed to sneak out....along with her father....and mother....and grandmother....and a horse....and a cart.

Then they snuck back into the ghetto (no word on the fate of the horse, or whether he snuck back in with them)

Then, one dawn, they removed their stars and snuck back out of the ghetto, even though it was punishable by death. They ate berries in the forest. Then Kitty's mother taught English to various Noblemen.
And even though they were only 15 miles from the ghetto where leaving was punishable by death, the Germans in this new town demanded money, rather than return them.
Then the family heroically abandoned granny to her fate.

Then they snuck into Auscwitz, disguised as gentiles. They were betrayed, and the Germans sentenced them to death by firing squad. They all fired at Kitty and her family, but all of them missed!!!

The germans fed them poison soup, so Kitty had to organize the food.

Then Kitty got sick and was treated in the camp hospital!!! She would have been gassed, but her mother hid her.

Kitty then heroically threw 2 of her friends on to the truck going to the gas chamber.

Kitty was trying to steal something from her work detail, but instead was placed at the entrance to the gas chambers. She watched all the Jews marched into the gas chambers.

Then Kitty's mother was selected as a priviledged Jew, and sent out of Auschwitz to a camp where it was warm, and they had food.

Then Kitty was sent on a death march, along with 10,000 other Jews. These Jews would take advantage of their numbers, and rob Germans when the Germans passed by.

Then the Nazis transferred Kitty to 3 other death camps. Then they left Kitty to die in a train.

Then the SS men freed Kitty from the train, and took her to another death camp. When the German guards finally ran away, they put land mines all around the camp and tried to blow all the Jews up.

Then Kitty wanted to talk about her experiences, but was forced into silence for 40 years

and from Kitty Hart:
Smoke was beginning to billow out of the tall chimneys and soon sharp flames shot up 6 feet into the sky. The black smoke became thicker and darker and choking, bringing with it a most perculiar smell, that of burning bodies, a smell of singeing chicken would be comparable, but this stench of burnt fat and hair was unbearable. . . . As evening came, the whole sky was red, as if lit up. Smoke and flames poured out of all the chimneys which surrounded our little camp. It seemed as if blood was coming out, as indeed it was. No one slept that night”.

From the book "I am alive", 1961. Pages 86-87.
Flames from a crematorium are impossible unless there is a serious crematorium destroying malfunction.
see:
'Testimonies on flames from Auschwitz crematorium chimneys'
viewtopic.php?p=56499

and from:
'wanted: testimonies on the duration of Auschwitz gassing'
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7638&p=57642&hilit=kitty+hart#p57642
Charles Traynor wrote:Kitty Hart claims to have had a very good view of Krema IV whilst she was working as a member of the Kanada Kommando. The following quotes are taken from her books I am alive (1961) and Return to Auschwitz (1985).

I stood hypnotised. I could not move. I was actually witnessing with my very own eyes a murder, not of one person, but of hundreds of people, innocent people who had been led, mostly unsuspecting into a large hall. On the outside of the low building a ladder had been placed which reached up to a small opening. A figure in SS uniform climbed up briskly. At the top he pulled on a gas mask and gloves. Holding the opening with One hand, he pulled a bag out of his pocket, and quickly threw the contents, a white powder, inside, shutting the opening immediately. In a flash he was down and, throwing the ladder on the lawn, ran away as if chased by a ghost.

At the same time the most terrifying screams echoed through the air, the desperate cries of suffocating people. I stood holding my breath, my hands pressed against my ears, but the cries were so loud, one would have thought the whole world would have been able to hear them.

Someone shook me. “It’s over. Do you hear me, it’s quiet. They are all dead now.”

It had taken about five to eight minutes.
I Am Alive, 1961, Kitty Hart, pp. 85-86

...but I went on watching, hypnotized. What I was witnessing was murder, not of one person, but of hundreds of innocent people at a time. Of course we had known, had whispered about it, and been terrified of it from a distance; but now I was seeing it, right there in front of me.

On the outside of the low building a ladder had been placed. A figure in the S.S. uniform climbed briskly up. At the top he pulled on a gas mask and gloves, tipped what looked from here like a white powder into an opening in the roof, and then hurried back down the ladder and ran off. Screams began to come out of the building. We could hear them echoing across to our hut, the desperate cries of suffocating people. I held my breath and pressed my hands over ears, but the screams were so loud you’d have thought the whole world must be able to hear them.

‘It’s over.’ Someone was shaking me. ‘It’s alright, it’s gone quiet. They’re all dead now.’

It could not have taken more than ten minutes.
Return To Auschwitz, 1985, kitty Hart, p. 112

and from:
'R.I.P.Alexander McClelland:"Exposing a Lie "'
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7152&p=52632&hilit=kitty+hart#p52632
FRAUD No. 4
I Am Alive
Book by Kitty Hart, 1961

In this book Kitty gives another eyewitness version of the gassings at Auschwitz-Birkenau on pages 85-86: “ I stood hypnotised. I could not move. I was actually witnessing with my very own eyes a murder, not of one person, but of hundreds of people who had been led, mostly unsuspecting into a large hall . . . On the outside of the low building a ladder had been placed which reached up to a small opening. A figure in SS uniform climbed up briskly. At the top he pulled on a gas mask and gloves. Holding the opening with one hand, he pulled a bag out of his pocket, and quickly threw the contents, a white powder inside, shutting the opening immediately. In a flash he was down and, throwing the ladder on the lawn, ran away as if chased by a ghost. At the same time the most terrifying screams echoed through the air, the desperate cries of suffocating people. I stood holding my breathe”.

Pages 86-87: “Smoke was beginning to billow out of the tall chimneys and soon sharp flames shot up 6 feet into the sky. The black smoke became thicker and darker and choking, bringing with it a most perculiar smell, that of burning bodies, a smell of singeing chicken would be comparable, but this stench of burnt fat and hair was unbearable. . . . As evening came, the whole sky was red, as if lit up. Smoke and flames poured out of all the chimneys which surrounded our little camp. It seemed as if blood was coming out, as indeed it was. No one slept that night”.

Kitty Hart also heard the screams of dying inmates. Well, medical experts will tell you that anyone dying of zyclon B poisoning experiences convulsions and does not scream.

What a Dysneyland Fantasia the inmates of Auschwitz were treated to every night! Ten thousand plus corpses were burnt every day and night, and the crematoria chimneys surrounded the camp! The flames passed through the tall chimneys and then another six feet into the air, floodlighting red the whole sky!!! Surely someone should have filmed this spectacle for posterity to marvel at! Why have we not seen the photos?

Encyclopaedias tell us that the cremation process was perfected in about 1860, when they learnt to trap the smoke, ash and smells in the tall chimneys of crematoriums. But with sixty years of Holocaust lies, most people believe the Donald Watts, Kitty Harts and the Spielbergs instead of the truth.

Enough for now, but there's much more. Search Kitty Hart at this forum and laugh.

God, this is easy.

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Re: Kitty Hart-Moxon full Testimony

Postby Dresden » 3 years 6 months ago (Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:09 pm)

Kitty Hart-Moxon (1998):

"Believe me, I came into Auschwitz in a much worse condition than I actually left it."
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Re: Kitty Hart-Moxon full Testimony

Postby Hannover » 3 years 6 months ago (Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:27 pm)

onetruth:
It's claimed that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz, and you believe in that story.

So now, in support of your 'Kitty Hart', please tell us in detail, how this gassing process supposedly worked. From the beginning until the alleged cremations after these alleged gassings and the disposal of the alleged human remains.
also:
How long did it take?
How many were gassed per batch?
Were there other Jews waiting outside?
How did the SS hide these gassings if they occurred? They were supposedly secret.

You know, the details. Let's see if can you tell us about the tale you believe in.

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Re: Kitty Hart-Moxon full Testimony

Postby onetruth » 3 years 6 months ago (Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:23 am)

Hannover wrote:onetruth:
It's claimed that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz, and you believe in that story.

So now, in support of your 'Kitty Hart', please tell us in detail, how this gassing process supposedly worked. From the beginning until the alleged cremations after these alleged gassings and the disposal of the alleged human remains.
also:
How long did it take?
How many were gassed per batch?
Were there other Jews waiting outside?
How did the SS hide these gassings if they occurred? They were supposedly secret.

You know, the details. Let's see if can you tell us about the tale you believe in.

Regards, Hannover


This thread is about the testimony of Kitty Hart. The part about the Gassing is only a small part of her 8 hours long testimony and there is a lot more the learn here about what was it like to live in Auschwitz for two years , what where the living conditions , how where the prisoners treated , how was the camp managed and many other aspects.

On the parts relating directly to the Gas chambers , Kitty Hart gives testimony only from the narrow point of her view. That depended on the the fact she could not enter the crematorium area and was limited in seeing only the parts of the camps where she was held in.She does however testify that she passed few selections and those too sick or weak where taken ti there death.

The part where she does testify about the Gas chamber mainly starts during the time she was transferred to the Kanada unit where spent 8 months.

starting at on her Testimony Part 2 min 28.00 :

It was there she had a direct view of crematorium 4 . It is there she saw how groups of people where led into the the crematorium . She describes how the germans climbed to the roof wearing gas masks to pour the gas and she testifies that the crematoriums worked in day and night shifts.



hermod wrote:only people incredibly enthusiastic would watch 8 hours of stupid Holo-allegations for fun.


I see not how you wish to determine what happened in a place and at the same time refuse to listen to people who where actually there.

Kitty Hart was there for a long time , there is no denying that cause her name appears on the registrar both for entering and leaving. I read all sort of comments here on what it was like to be a prisoner in Auschwitz and i fail to see how people can discuss that and know anything while ignoring testimonials from people who where actually in those camps. Same goes for thousands of other testimonies from other camps which are usually ignored here.

Yet i don't see it stopping some people here from discussing the living conditions , the reality of how it was living in those concentration camps. As long as the words of people who where actually prisoners there are ignored , all those speculations ate nothing more than fantasy and invention.

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Steve F wrote:Kitty Hart-Moxon (1998):

"Believe me, I came into Auschwitz in a much worse condition than I actually left it."


I actually started this thread in response to this misrepresentation quote , made by NLH.

And all i can say is WOW , just WOW.

Out of an 8 hours long testimony you took one sentence and put it entirely out of context , just so it will suit your agenda.

Kity hart was at a state of " Muselmann " - a living corpse - when she was lucky enough to be placed in " Kanada " - the slang word for the unit responsible for sorting the possessions and precious belongings of the Jews transported to Auschwitz. To prisoners Canada was a country that symbolised wealth. They, therefore, gave the ironic name Kanada (the German spelling of Canada) . It was there she was able to get enough food and recuperate. It is in this context that this quote of yours is to be understood.

Sorry , but you cant just pick a sentence that you like and ignore all the rest.

This is why i thought it is important to post the whole testimony , which i found important,

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Re: Kitty Hart-Moxon full Testimony

Postby Hannover » 3 years 6 months ago (Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:43 pm)

onetruth, you are dodging yet again. Please answer each of these:

- Please tell us how washing with urine would make someone clean. Hart said she washed with human urine.

- How did Hart manage to sneak in and out of a ghetto? It was supposedly guarded.

- How did Jews sneak in and out of Auschwitz and avoid the massive security at this labor camp? Hart said they did.

- How did Hart & others survive an alleged firing squad and still avoid being shot at again? Hart said they did.

- Why would SS guards free Hart if they allegedly had a policy to kill every Jew they could get their hands on? Hart said they let her go.

- Please explain how functioning crematoriums spewed massive flames as claimed by Hart. The claim is impossible.

- Since when was Zyklon-B (the alleged cyanide carrier for the alleged gassings) in a "powder" form as Hart claimed?

- Knowing that it's claimed that Jews were waiting outside in massive lines next to the alleged 'gas chambers', how could the man alleged by Hart to be dumping the non-existent powder into the alleged 'gas chambers' avoid being seen?

- Again," in support of your 'Kitty Hart', please tell us in detail, how this gassing process supposedly worked. From the beginning until the alleged cremations after these alleged gassings and the disposal of the alleged human remains.
also:
How long did it take?
How many were gassed per batch?
Were there other Jews waiting outside?
How did the SS hide these gassings if they occurred? They were supposedly secret."

Let's see if can you tell us about the tall tales you believe in.
No dodging at this forum, onetruth, just like in a real court of law.

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Re: Kitty Hart-Moxon full Testimony

Postby Dresden » 3 years 6 months ago (Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:55 pm)

one"truth" said:

"Out of an 8 hours long testimony you took one sentence and put it entirely out of context , just so it will suit your agenda"

One sentence?.....how could you possibly have missed this insane nonsense from Kitty Hart, unless you just ignore everything that doesn't fit your agenda?:

from Steve F.:
'Kitty Felix Hart:Return to Auschwitz'
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7921


Kitty Hart

Here's Kitty's original tale.

Kitty was only 12 years old when the Nazis invaded Poland. When the Germans invaded her town, all the Jews had to bow down to passing soldiers or they would be shot.

There's no evidence of that nonsense, otherwise, it would have been an important part of a lot of other "eyewitness" testimonies.....but it's not.

Leaving the ghetto was punishable by death, but Kitty's family heroically forced Kitty into the sewers at night, so she could leave the ghetto and steal food from somewhere.

Do you believe a mother and father would send their little daughter to crawl through dangerous, filthy, rat infested, disease ridden dark sewers to go steal food from "somewhere"?

Was Kitty Hart a twelve-year-old professional sneak-thief?

Who was at the other end of the sewer to lift the heavy, cast iron manhole cover for her?

Don't you think Kitty Hart is cursing the memory and reputation of her parents by saying they either forced her, encouraged her, or even ALLOWED their little girl to go on such a suicide mission?

How did they expect a little girl to find her way through the incredible Labyrinth of sewer pipes in the pitch darkness?

This story is for children and real gullible, brainwashed people who, through fanaticism, have completely lost their ability to use critical thinking.


In the winter of 1940-41, even though leaving the ghetto was punishable by death, Kitty managed to sneak out....along with her father....and mother....and grandmother....and a horse....and a cart.

Then they snuck back into the ghetto (no word on the fate of the horse, or whether he snuck back in with them)

Do you really believe this nonsense, one"truth"?

Why did they use a horse to draw the cart?.....why not a Unicorn?

Then, one dawn, they removed their stars and snuck back out of the ghetto, even though it was punishable by death. They ate berries in the forest. Then Kitty's mother taught English to various Noblemen.
And even though they were only 15 miles from the ghetto where leaving was punishable by death, the Germans in this new town demanded money, rather than return them.
Then the family heroically abandoned granny to her fate.

Then they snuck into Auscwitz, disguised as gentiles. They were betrayed, and the Germans sentenced them to death by firing squad. They all fired at Kitty and her family, but all of them missed!!!

If you believe this, you need your head examined!

The germans fed them poison soup, so Kitty had to organize the food.

Then Kitty got sick and was treated in the camp hospital!!! She would have been gassed, but her mother hid her.

Kitty then heroically threw 2 of her friends on to the truck going to the gas chamber.

Kitty was trying to steal something from her work detail, but instead was placed at the entrance to the gas chambers. She watched all the Jews marched into the gas chambers.

She's lying.....the 'gas-chambers' have been proven impossible as alleged.

Then Kitty's mother was selected as a priviledged Jew, and sent out of Auschwitz to a camp where it was warm, and they had food.

Then Kitty was sent on a death march, along with 10,000 other Jews. These Jews would take advantage of their numbers, and rob Germans when the Germans passed by.

Then the Nazis transferred Kitty to 3 other death camps. Then they left Kitty to die in a train.

Then the SS men freed Kitty from the train, and took her to another death camp. When the German guards finally ran away, they put land mines all around the camp and tried to blow all the Jews up.

Then Kitty wanted to talk about her experiences, but was forced into silence for 40 years
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Re: Kitty Hart-Moxon full Testimony

Postby Atigun » 3 years 6 months ago (Mon Mar 07, 2016 3:48 pm)

Onetruth,
There is also the legal principle of, "falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus." That is, false in one thing, false in everything. If a witness lies in one part of their testimony, it discredits all of their testimony. That principle is not held in all courts with some legal scholars declaring it not applicable in all cases. Making a provable mistake or fudging one detail of testimony doesn't necessarily discredit the entire body of testimony. However, if the witness repeatedly makes claims of demonstrable lies, not even the most lenient court is going to accept such witnesses as credible. That is exactly the case in the testimony of Kitty. Trying to present her as an authority on life in Auschwitz simply isn't credible.

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Postby hermod » 3 years 6 months ago (Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:16 pm)

onetruth wrote:I see not how you wish to determine what happened in a place and at the same time refuse to listen to people who where actually there.


In the same way as I wish to determine what happens during alien abductions and Marian apparitions, i.e. by just having a good laugh at testimonies and a laugh even bigger at the gullible people giving a probative value to mere series of words. :wink:


Kitty Hart was there for a long time , there is no denying that cause her name appears on the registrar both for entering and leaving. I read all sort of comments here on what it was like to be a prisoner in Auschwitz and i fail to see how people can discuss that and know anything while ignoring testimonials from people who where actually in those camps. Same goes for thousands of other testimonies from other camps which are usually ignored here.

Yet i don't see it stopping some people here from discussing the living conditions , the reality of how it was living in those concentration camps. As long as the words of people who where actually prisoners there are ignored , all those speculations ate nothing more than fantasy and invention.


As if Holo-testimonies had already provided us with anything but speculations, fantasy and invention. C'mon...
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Postby Dresden » 3 years 6 months ago (Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:51 pm)

hermod wrote:
onetruth wrote:I see not how you wish to determine what happened in a place and at the same time refuse to listen to people who where actually there.


In the same way as I wish to determine what happens during alien abductions and Marian apparitions, i.e. by just having a good laugh at testimonies and a laugh even bigger at the gullible people giving a probative value to mere series of words. :wink:

As if Holo-testimonies had already provided us with anything but speculations, fantasy and invention. C'mon...


That's a good comparison you make of "survivor" testimonies to alien abductions and Marian apparitions.

They are equally about as far-fetched and as numerous as each other, I think; I haven't really studied the subjects of alien abductions or Marian Apparitions very much to know which of the two "phenomena" are more prevalent, but I think the Blessed Virgin has been "seen" in so many different times and places(and sometimes even two places at the same time), I think we could, without much impropriety, call her Mary Mengele(not to be confused with Mary Magdalene).

And you're right.....sometimes it is a good laugh, but some of the "survivor" tales are not funny at all.
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Re: Kitty Hart-Moxon full Testimony

Postby borjastick » 3 years 6 months ago (Tue Mar 08, 2016 7:30 am)

I'm not sure my understanding of Ms Hart-Moxon would be improved or enhanced by watching eight solid hours of her madness and ramblings. I have watched and reported on several of her Auschwitz videos on youtube. She comes across as bizarre and unreliable. I mean she claims to have eaten out of the same bowl she defecated in for a year or two without catching anything and was responsible for cleaning the toilets in her block, without getting any death inducing disease.

The holocaust is littered with crazy survivor witnesses and she is up there with the best of them. In fact it might be worth a different topic just to compile the top ten craziest!
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Re: Kitty Hart-Moxon full Testimony

Postby hermod » 3 years 6 months ago (Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:11 am)

Steve F wrote:That's a good comparison you make of "survivor" testimonies to alien abductions and Marian apparitions.

They are equally about as far-fetched and as numerous as each other, I think; I haven't really studied the subjects of alien abductions or Marian Apparitions very much to know which of the two "phenomena" are more prevalent, but I think the Blessed Virgin has been "seen" in so many different times and places(and sometimes even two places at the same time), I think we could, without much impropriety, call her Mary Mengele(not to be confused with Mary Magdalene).

And you're right.....sometimes it is a good laugh, but some of the "survivor" tales are not funny at all.


If academic scholars were consistent with their own evidential standards as far as the 'Holocaust' is concerned, every university in this world should have research departments of astrology, bigfootology, ufology, nessilogy, ghostology, alien-abductology, Marian-apparitionology, miraclelogy, trollogy, elfology, dragonology, witchcraftology, demonic-possessionology, etc. Testimonial 'evidence' uncorroborated by physical evidence are probative or they are not. They can't be both probative when convenient or needed and non-probative when inconvenient or useless.

As long as academic historians refuse or fail to provide us with physical evidence of their claims, the claims of exterminationist academia about the 'Holocaust' should be regarded by every smart person as the historical equivalent of what cryptozoology is to zoology. The claims of cryptozoologists enter the field of zoology only from the moment when reliable physical evidence of a specific claim are provided.
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Re: Kitty Hart-Moxon full Testimony

Postby ginger » 3 years 6 months ago (Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:30 pm)

To onetruth -

I don't like to spend much time with "survivor testimony" because I consider it unreliable but I am a person who believes that the people working to cremate bodies at Auschwitz worked 12 hour days. This information came from Carlo Mattogno's work on the cremation ovens of Auschwitz which I consider reliable because of Mattogno's willingness to work with difficult material and to be cautious in his conclusions. Kitty Hart-Moxon may have said that there were day and night shifts - round-the-clock cremating - which is easy to say - but consider the equipment. The cremation ovens needed to be maintained daily and, after a thousand or so cremations, an oven needed to be rebuilt. Would the Germans run the equipment into the ground or would they be careful to maintain it? They would want to maintain it. So the idea of round-the-clock cremating could not be true.

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Re: Kitty Hart-Moxon full Testimony

Postby onetruth » 3 years 6 months ago (Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:34 pm)

ginger wrote:To onetruth -

I don't like to spend much time with "survivor testimony" because I consider it unreliable


ginger

We are talking about some 60,000 survivors from Auschwitz alone. Are you just going to ignore them all ?

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