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Re: New Documentary - Questioning the Holocaust : Why We Believed (Part1 of 2)

Postby Hektor » 3 years 5 months ago (Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:42 pm)

Carto's Cutlass Supreme wrote:Just finished it. Really good. That really hit me at the end that with now understanding the footage, we see the same footage at the kiosk at the US holocaust memorial museum.

Me too, but I got to go through it again.

The USC Shoah foundation excerpts make it powerful. I couldn't always identify the speaker's name, like in the case of the Nordhausen doctor telling his story.

What I find amazing is that I worked myself on a script on how people came to believe in the Holocaust and what the epistemological problems with that are. Great work Eric, and I'm looking forward to the second part.

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Re: New Documentary - Questioning the Holocaust : Why We Believed (Part1 of 2)

Postby Kingfisher » 3 years 5 months ago (Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:20 pm)

k0nsl wrote:
Hieldner wrote:• Schrecklich is accentuated wrong.


Yes, I noticed this as well. Maybe it will be noticed only by those who know the correct pronunciation and that hopefully it will not be something many people get "too hung up about".
Even I have problems correctly pronouncing something as elementary as that :oops:
Schrecklich01_k0nsl.mp3


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I don't agree. People start off strongly prejudiced against "Deniers" and are looking for reasons to question the speaker's credibility and ridicule him and consciously or unconsciously will use it as a reason to question whether he actually knows his subject. No one expects Eric, or anyone else, to pronounce German like a German but wrong stress will trigger negative emotions, and it is in fact easy to correct if a revised voice-over is done at some point and for future films. While he doesn't need to know German to do the job he is doing, face credibility is important and it's better not to advertise the fact that he doesn't. (Neither do I, BTW.)

I'd like to make clear that this does not affect my opinion of the film, but is not my opinion that matters and it takes less than a minute to check with Google Translate or Forvo. You can be sure the other side will get this right for their works. We have, within our limited resources, to be as good as them. Our strength is in the logic, reason and facts presented in opposition to their emotion and hyperbole.

This site gives native pronunciations for most common words in many languages. German is in fact the best-supported language: http://forvo.com/word/schrecklich/#de

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Re: New Documentary - Questioning the Holocaust : Why We Believed (Part1 of 2)

Postby Hannover » 3 years 5 months ago (Sun May 08, 2016 5:14 pm)

some points:

- Starting part 1 where he did Eric Hunt made the right choices.
Juxtaposing old news reels and news accounts versus statements of so called "survivors" is damning to the false narrative.
Hunt's demolition of the showers / gassing canard is irrefutable.

- This is the ideal video for newbies to Revisionism.
It takes apart all the initial claims made when the US & British entered the camps in Germany. Propaganda about these sites is what became and still is 'proof' for countless numbers of people.
It demonstrates thoroughly how the Allied bombing and strafing of Nordhausen has been manipulated.
It demonstrates thoroughly how the Allied strafing of trains to Dachau have been manipulated.
It demonstrates thoroughly how disinfection of inmates was / is egregiously & knowingly misrepresented as 'gassing' of inmates.
The endless contradictions within the 'holocaust' storyline are revealed with the greatest of ease.
It's all presented in a straight forward, easily understood manner.

I'm looking forward to part 2 on the alleged 'extermination' camps in Poland. Knowing what I know about what Eric Hunt knows tells me it will again crush the lies that have been forced upon the public.

My highest praise to Eric Hunt.

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The 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

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Re: New Documentary - Questioning the Holocaust : Why We Believed (Part1 of 2)

Postby Hektor » 3 years 4 months ago (Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:50 am)

Carto's Cutlass Supreme wrote:...
1:04:59: the fact that that's wikipedia is a big deal, but not mentioned.

The gist of the Nordhausen part is clear and with big impact, and I never understood those photos before, and it's really a big impact to get this.

The Ambrose part with a mention of the Believer formula: very good.

1:10:23 Another incredible testimony from Spielberg archive. Wow! What a find! But will there be sources at the end? To even know her name?

I don't think there's ever been a video that took on, to this extent, an attempt to explain this difficult topic of why the photos of bodies are not proof of the holocaust. This video is doing a good job.
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On Stephen Ambrose:

Beginning late in his life and continuing after his death, however, evidence and reports have continued to surface documenting longtime patterns of plagiarism and inaccuracies in many of his published writings and other work. In response to one of the early reports, Ambrose said he was not "out there stealing other people's writings." In the wake of his death, a reviewer for the New York Times did not absolve him completely, but opined that "he certainly deserved better from some of his envious peers" and credited the historian with reaching "an important lay audience without endorsing its every prejudice or sacrificing the profession's standards of scholarship."[1]

After Eisenhower's death in 1969, Ambrose made repeated claims to have had a unique and extraordinarily close relationship with him over the final five years of the former President's life. In an extensive 1998 interview, before a group of high school students, Ambrose stated that he spent "a lot of time with Ike, really a lot, hundreds and hundreds of hours." Ambrose claimed he interviewed Eisenhower on a wide range of subjects, and that he had been with him "on a daily basis for a couple years" before his death "doing interviews and talking about his life."[10] The former president's diary and telephone records show that the pair met only three times, for a total of less than five hours.[22][39] Rives has stated that interview dates Ambrose cites in his 1970 book, The Supreme Commander, cannot be reconciled with Eisenhower's personal schedule, but Rives discovered, upon further investigation, a "hidden" relationship between the two men. Eisenhower enlisted Ambrose in his efforts to preserve his legacy and counteract criticisms of his presidency, particularly those charging that Eisenhower's actions at the end of World War II produced the Cold War. Ambrose wrote a review and book supporting the former general, with Eisenhower providing direction and comments during the process. Rives could not square the questionable interview dates cited by Ambrose in later works, but uncovered a relationship with Eisenhower that was "too complicated" to be described by Ambrose's critics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_E ... erizations
Seems Ambrose was caught out being less then honest on some issues.
However he did not fall from grace completely.

Now imagine, he would have been a Revisionist. Would he have gotten away with that light of a treatment? I don't think so.

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Re: New Documentary - Questioning the Holocaust : Why We Believed (Part1 of 2)

Postby HeiligeSturm » 3 years 5 days ago (Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:16 pm)

As we wait for Part Two, I'm almost done working with Finnish subtitles for Part One...
Could someone help with these two messy witness testimony segments?

01:26:07-01:26:09 Does she say: "babies split naked?" :shock: or what... :oops:
01:26:24-01:26:29 I'm missing the name of the officer here :roll: Rüdler? Rudler?
Carol Stulberg: Were you ever in the gas chamber? Did you see the gas chamber?
Morris Venezia: Of course I was every day over there.
Carol Stulberg: Can you describe to us what it looked like?
Morris Venezia: It’s nothing to describe

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Re: New Documentary - Questioning the Holocaust : Why We Believed (Part1 of 2)

Postby flimflam » 3 years 5 days ago (Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:00 am)

"I don't think there's ever been a video that took on, to this extent, an attempt to explain this difficult topic of why the photos of bodies are not proof of the holocaust. This video is doing a good job."

Not only are the photos of bodies not proof of the holocaust, the lies about the photos, which continue to this day, are proof of an ongoing holohoax.

The vid 'Introduction to the Holohoax'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acPfPG457cw

addresses the same topic from a different perspective, Oprah's !

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Re: New Documentary - Questioning the Holocaust : Why We Believed (Part1 of 2)

Postby Hegwood » 2 years 11 months ago (Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:17 am)

I just finished watching the entire video. Since I didn't expect to find out much that I didn't know, watching it was not a high priority with me. I'm glad I finally took the time to do so.

It is excellent, a very convincing presentation.

The section on Nordhausen was particularly eye opening. Prior to watching this video I was only aware that the still photo of the Allied bombing victims at Nordhausen was used by Jewish holocaust promoters to falsely accused the Germans. It turns out that the lie is strictly the work of the U S Army, with Jewish help.

Now how can we get believers to watch video?

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Re: New Documentary - Questioning the Holocaust : Why We Believed (Part1 of 2)

Postby Hektor » 2 years 11 months ago (Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:55 pm)

Hegwood wrote:....
Now how can we get believers to watch video?

Hegwood

With believers it's a bit of a problem to get them read, think and even watch something. Most people aren't believers as such, they just go with the flow in the sense that they accept what they heard at school or in the media. But that's not the group we want to reach.

So I rephrase the question: How can we get the curious to watch the video?

I guess we have to edit the edges a bit and then reupload the video or trailers with links onto youtube naming it something like:
- Holocaust Denial debunked
- Arguing against Holocaust Deniers
- Holocaust History for High School students
and the like.

But do a good research on what keywords are commonly used with Holocaust / Auschwitz
-"auschwitz documentary history channel"
- "Holocaust documentary BBC"
- Preparing for a "Auschwitz Tour"
That all seems to be popular.

Now you must write/copy a longer text with the keywords in side, but make sure it appears natural and has also some variety.
I'd add gas chamber, cremation, Jews, Nazis, concentration camps, death camp, revisionism and the like.

It helps when the channel which it is uploaded to got already lots of followers.

With time we should be able to dominate the Holocaust / Auschwitz searches on youtube. Same or similar can apply to other upload sides. It's a piece of work, but some of us are already infusing step by step. And I believe it already has some effect, given what I read in the comments sections of some Holo-related articles. Most are of the "Not that story again"-type, but some indicate the "please stop feeding us garbage" response.

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Re: New Documentary - Questioning the Holocaust : Why We Believed (Part1 of 2)

Postby hermod » 2 years 11 months ago (Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:51 pm)

Hegwood wrote:Now how can we get believers to watch video?


By re-uploading it under the name "Holocaust: The Final Proof - A Must-see video !!". Maybe a number of them will have realized a few things about the Holohoax before understanding that the name of the video is misleading... :wink:
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Re: New Documentary - Questioning the Holocaust : Why We Believed (Part1 of 2)

Postby Myths2LiveBy » 2 years 9 months ago (Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:12 pm)

Agreed that "Why We Believed" and especially the Nordhausen revelations are important contributions, and its producer deserves praise and thanks.

But if the forum will indulge --
in my very inexpert opinion, it is too long, too repetitive, and too involved in technical details, i.e. when talking about gas chambers.

I wonder if it's possible for Hunt to break Part I into several segments, and give each segment a catchy title, with the hope that people will sit through 15 or 20 minutes of something whose title grabs their attention and focuses their thinking.

Germar is committed to the scholarly approach, and certainly everything Revisionists produce has got to stand on a rock-solid foundation.
BUT realize that the zionist propaganda machine has been as successful as it has been by producing fiction, and emotionally - charged 'docudrama.' The American people are accustomed to getting their "history" 28 minutes at a time, or in mega-dollar movie productions.
So are the German people, apparently:
I've read parts of Cora Sol Goldstein's "Capturing the German Eye," which is about the (Jewish-dominated) CIA-led psychological war on Germany that commenced after the war (and hadn't let up!). Goldstein noted that after almost 7 years of brainwashing, in the early 1950s a poll was taken of the German people and 44% STILL believed in the value of Nazism. That did not start to change until the television series "Holocaust" was shown on German tv, in the 1970s. (It's been downhill since then.)
The point is that while the material Revisionists present must have sound scholarship behind it, in order to grab the attention of a seriously dumbed-down public, it has got to be presented in a format that will appeal to large audiences,
I would even suggest a series of fiction books -- short, aimed at comprehension-level of 8-year old, doesn't have to be Dostoevsky or Shakespeare (has anybody ever tried to read any of the Left Behind books? Pure junk. But they sold like hotcakes, and hundreds of thousands of people think they are the next best thing to the bible.

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Re: New Documentary - Questioning the Holocaust : Why We Believed (Part1 of 2)

Postby Hektor » 2 years 9 months ago (Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:07 pm)

Myths2LiveBy wrote:Agreed that "Why We Believed" and especially the Nordhausen revelations are important contributions, and its producer deserves praise and thanks.
...
I've read parts of Cora Sol Goldstein's "Capturing the German Eye," which is about the (Jewish-dominated) CIA-led psychological war on Germany that commenced after the war (and hadn't let up!). Goldstein noted that after almost 7 years of brainwashing, in the early 1950s a poll was taken of the German people and 44% STILL believed in the value of Nazism. That did not start to change until the television series "Holocaust" was shown on German tv, in the 1970s. (It's been downhill since then.)
The point is that while the material Revisionists present must have sound scholarship behind it, in order to grab the attention of a seriously dumbed-down public, it has got to be presented in a format that will appeal to large audiences,
I would even suggest a series of fiction books -- short, aimed at comprehension-level of 8-year old, doesn't have to be Dostoevsky or Shakespeare (has anybody ever tried to read any of the Left Behind books? Pure junk. But they sold like hotcakes, and hundreds of thousands of people think they are the next best thing to the bible.


Actually, I've read that in polls reacted around 66% positively to the following question:
"Except for the war and persecution of the Jews, would you say that National Socialism was a good idea."

Don't have the reference though. But it was some polls taken in the 70s and 80s. The difference towards today is that then still a lot of people having had first hand experience of the 20s/30s/40s were still alive. Those were at least older people to be asked.

As for brainwashing, the Americans viewed the Holocaust (not named that way yet then) as key to their efforts:
Early in the re-education of the German people the military government attempted to develop a sense of collective responsibility for results of National Socialism, especially for atrocities in concentration camps. ...
During the first months of the occupation, the Psychological Warfare Branch of the United States Army, being charged with the control of public information in Germany, undertook a campaign through Radio Luxembourg, the controlled German-language press, and special posters and pamphlets to acquaint the German people with the extent and nature of concentration-camp atrocities. The development of a
sense of collective responsibility was considered a prerequisite to any long-term education of the German people.
https://archive.org/details/MorrisJanow ... Atrocities


With books you could reach some educated people (That don't have a vested interest in the Holocaust) - For mass audience, a movie may do much better. How about focusing on the propaganda efforts of the Allies. I know. Movie will cost quite a bit. The "left behind" series (I guess that refers to pre-tribulation rapture) was also put on movie-format. Indeed junk, but it grasped the minds of many evangelicals. There's however some of them who took this to task and oppose the views espoused therein.

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Re: New Documentary - Questioning the Holocaust : Why We Believed (Part1 of 2)

Postby Zulu » 2 years 9 months ago (Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:20 pm)

Hektor wrote:With books you could reach some educated people (That don't have a vested interest in the Holocaust) - For mass audience, a movie may do much better. How about focusing on the propaganda efforts of the Allies. I know. Movie will cost quite a bit. The "left behind" series (I guess that refers to pre-tribulation rapture) was also put on movie-format. Indeed junk, but it grasped the minds of many evangelicals. There's however some of them who took this to task and oppose the views espoused therein.

I think that a big progression of revisionism has been achieved by the availability of many videos put on Youtube that can be complemented by many texts and references.
At least that is the case in France with Reynouard's videos.
Eric Hunt has also made a very good job on that matter.
BTW, it seems that we don't hear from Eric since a long time ago. How does he do now? Is he working on something to be released soon?
Has he a Paypal account to send some help?

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Re: New Documentary - Questioning the Holocaust : Why We Believed (Part1 of 2)

Postby Hektor » 2 years 9 months ago (Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:31 pm)

Zulu wrote:....
I think that a big progression of revisionism has been achieved by the availability of many videos put on Youtube that can be complemented by many texts and references.
At least that is the case in France with Reynouard's videos.

My take as well.The videos have done most in terms of distribution of Holocaust Revisionist views. However for the run of the mill lemming they're still difficult to follow. A minority of people is technological versatile enough to understand the technical arguments and generally those are not people that are into the letters or humanities to which e.g. historians belong as well.

That's why I think we need to focus a bit more on the propaganda and reeducation angle. This is what some people will be more able and sometimes willing to understand and accept.

Zulu wrote:....
Eric Hunt has also made a very good job on that matter.
BTW, it seems that we don't hear from Eric since a long time ago. How does he do now? Is he working on something to be released soon?
Has he a Paypal account to send some help?

Yes, Eric Hunt's work on the Holocaust is excellent. If I have to pick videos for sharing his are of the first choice.
No idea what he's doing right now.

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Re: New Documentary - Questioning the Holocaust : Why We Believed (Part1 of 2)

Postby Hieldner » 2 years 9 months ago (Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:06 pm)

Zulu wrote:BTW, it seems that we don't hear from Eric since a long time ago. How does he do now? Is he working on something to be released soon?
Has he a Paypal account to send some help?

From the fact that denialthefilm.com has been suspended I conclude he has stopped working on this project. On questioningtheholocaust.com we find the following note
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On his patreon page, he stated the following:
Oct 28, 2016 at 9:55pm

Hi everyone. Thanks so much for funding my projects.

For the near future I'm going to be involved in deep original research regarding one of the big holes in Revisionist research. If there is a major breakthrough, I think Revisionism will win. If not, I am not so sure.

Thanks, thanks, thanks!


Dec 12, 2016 at 2:39am

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Saw this photograph in a museum in Eastern Europe. Trying to trace its origin. The subject is my current research focus. Where did the Jews unable to work and alleged gassed go? Image says in Russian this is a transit camp. But are these Slavs, Germans, Jews? Cropped reverse image search doesn't help much. Guess they think posting a sad photo is enough to blame the Germans...Thanks everyone for donating...still researching behind the scenes...
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Re: New Documentary - Questioning the Holocaust : Why We Believed (Part1 of 2)

Postby NLH » 2 years 9 months ago (Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:25 am)

Hieldner wrote:
Zulu wrote:BTW, it seems that we don't hear from Eric since a long time ago. How does he do now? Is he working on something to be released soon?
Has he a Paypal account to send some help?

From the fact that denialthefilm.com has been suspended I conclude he has stopped working on this project. On questioningtheholocaust.com we find the following note
PRODUCTION HAS BEEN HALTED ON PART 2 UNTIL SUFFICIENT VIEWER DONATIONS ARE RECEIVED
Below this message, a link to a donation page reveals the following
Eric Hunt wrote:It’s only through your generosity that the travel, research, equipment, and production of these videos are possible.

I really appreciate and need your help to improve these productions and can accept donations through the following methods.

Check :
We can accept cheques, please contact us at
[email protected] and we’ll give you more details.

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Please send to the address :
[email protected]

Patreon
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https://www.patreon.com/questioningtheholocaust

Bitcoin :
Donate Bitcoin :
Address: 1FmV6NxacPnWbD3CqJLjALV3ZPEKHvB5R7
http://questioningtheholocaust.com/donate/

On his patreon page, he stated the following:
Oct 28, 2016 at 9:55pm

Hi everyone. Thanks so much for funding my projects.

For the near future I'm going to be involved in deep original research regarding one of the big holes in Revisionist research. If there is a major breakthrough, I think Revisionism will win. If not, I am not so sure.

Thanks, thanks, thanks!


Dec 12, 2016 at 2:39am

Image
Saw this photograph in a museum in Eastern Europe. Trying to trace its origin. The subject is my current research focus. Where did the Jews unable to work and alleged gassed go? Image says in Russian this is a transit camp. But are these Slavs, Germans, Jews? Cropped reverse image search doesn't help much. Guess they think posting a sad photo is enough to blame the Germans...Thanks everyone for donating...still researching behind the scenes...


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