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Krzysztof Gorczyca's fraudulent excavation of the Chelmno 'death camp'

Postby Hannover » 3 years 3 months ago (Mon May 23, 2016 2:47 pm)

I see there are a few references at this forum to an alleged excavation at the claimed 'extermination camp' Chelmno by Krzysztof Gorczyca, but nothing of any depth. So let's get into it.
For some background on Chelmno see:

What Was Kulmhof/Chelmno?
Questions about a controversial extermination camp

By Ingrid Weckert
http://vho.org/tr/2003/4/Weckert400-412.html

I found this excerpt via a basic internet search:
Archaeology / Jan.-Feb. 2003, p.50.
Remembering Chelmno - Heart-wrenching finds from a Nazi death camp.
By JulietGolden
Between 1941 and 1945, as many as 300,000 adults and children, mostly Polish jews, were executed and cremated here... People said that the Germans had liquidated all traces of the camp and that nothing was left... There is obviously an emotional dimension to the work at Chelmno that is seldom encountered in archaeology. Small fragments of bone catch the sunlight at the forest site where the crematories once stood. "It's one thing to hear about the crematory, it's another to stand inside an enormous pit that is filled with human bones," says Krzysztof Gorczyca, an archaeologist who directed last summer's excavation. "Only then did it occur to me just how many people were murdered here." ...The research at Chelmno is carried out with the absolute agreement and cooperation of the Jewish community... Human remains found during the excavations are interred in a jewish cemetery established in the forest."

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The scholar Krzysztof Gorczyca near the excavations done in Chelmno, September 2005
more here:
http://www.scotsman.com/news/world/meme ... -1-1382145

But note that we see not a single excavated mass grave, not one. We do not see "an enormous pit that is filled with human bones" as claimed, nothing, nada, zilch.

What we have here is just another fraudulent claim of an excavation which did not happen. Otherwise we would be seeing the excavation in situ with verified contents, we see nothing.
Apparently this "absolute agreement and cooperation of the Jewish community" meant claiming an excavation that did not occur and not further exposing the 'holocaust' storyline for the outrageous scam that it is.

Thoughts welcomed.

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Re: Krzysztof Gorczyca's fraudulent excavation of the Chelmno 'death camp'

Postby Dresden » 3 years 3 months ago (Mon May 23, 2016 11:18 pm)

"There is obviously an emotional dimension to the work at Chelmno that is seldom encountered in archaeology"

But emotionalism is AWAYS encountered in Holo-archaeology.....as a matter of fact.....that's ALL that's ever "encountered" in Holo-archaeology!

"It's one thing to hear about the crematory, it's another to stand inside an enormous pit that is filled with human bones," says Krzysztof Gorczyca

That's true, Krzysztof.....but how would you know?.....you've never stood inside an enormous pit that is filled with human bones.

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The man in the picture is pointing to an enormous pit that is filled with human bones.....if you can't see it.....You're a Nazi!
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Re: Krzysztof Gorczyca's fraudulent excavation of the Chelmno 'death camp'

Postby borjastick » 3 years 3 months ago (Tue May 24, 2016 1:49 am)

Hannover, the similarities between this fakery jiggery pokery and that constructed by Caroline Sturdy Colls are quite obvious. I wonder whether she took his lead on things to produce the masterpiece that is her Treblinka documentary of two years ago.

Certainly step number one is to state actual 'facts' that in reality are less than worthy of an office rumour. In this case at Chelmno they state;
Between 1941 and 1945, as many as 300,000 adults and children, mostly Polish jews, were executed and cremated here... People said that the Germans had liquidated all traces of the camp and that nothing was left...
Quite the claim eh? 300,000 or even if it were 200,000 people simply disappear into thin air.

Thus the need for a scientific research programme. Just as in the Treblinka Colls' work where of course we know for a 'fact' that 800,000 were sent there and murdered in gas chambers, then buried, then all dug up and cremated so as to leave not a single trace.

In both cases after the camp was no longer needed they were taken apart, destroyed and not a trace remains, save for a few lines of brickwork here and there which prove nothing.

In both cases they worked collaboratively with the jewish community. You will remember that the head of Polish jews told Colls that should she find any bodies they must stop digging! Eh?

I've seen less dancing around handbags at my local disco...
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Re: Krzysztof Gorczyca's fraudulent excavation of the Chelmno 'death camp'

Postby Tomt » 3 years 2 months ago (Tue May 24, 2016 12:46 pm)

How many times have we heard about the Germans burying 100's of thousands of people then digging them up and then cremating them in open pits or pyre. Where did this story originate. Seems like they would learn the first time.

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Re: Krzysztof Gorczyca's fraudulent excavation of the Chelmno 'death camp'

Postby Dresden » 3 years 2 months ago (Tue May 24, 2016 1:02 pm)

Tomt said:

"How many times have we heard about the Germans burying 100's of thousands of people then digging them up and then cremating them in open pits or pyre. Where did this story originate. Seems like they would learn the first time"

It's the only way to explain the lack of mass graves.

It works for the utterly brainwashed Goyim, and that's all that matters.
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Re: Krzysztof Gorczyca's fraudulent excavation of the Chelmno 'death camp'

Postby Mulegino1 » 3 years 2 months ago (Tue May 24, 2016 1:22 pm)

Steve F wrote:Tomt said:

"How many times have we heard about the Germans burying 100's of thousands of people then digging them up and then cremating them in open pits or pyre. Where did this story originate. Seems like they would learn the first time"

It's the only way to explain the lack of mass graves.

It works for the utterly brainwashed Goyim, and that's all that matters.


Indeed. The Shoah legend lacks its Katyn. The German investigation at that site remains the gold standard of the investigations of mass graves and massive quantities of human remains, since it applied the norms of forensic science in an objective fashion and significantly enough, employed the good offices of IMPARTIAL observers (Polish and other Allied prisoners of war).

On the other hand, the "Holocaust" excavations are, in reality, foregone conclusions where any evidence, or more significantly, lack thereof, must point to the 6 million lie. The lack of evidence is simply explained away by ridiculous myths such as "German efficiency".

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Re: Krzysztof Gorczyca's fraudulent excavation of the Chelmno 'death camp'

Postby Hannover » 3 years 2 months ago (Tue May 24, 2016 1:34 pm)

Tomt wrote:How many times have we heard about the Germans burying 100's of thousands of people then digging them up and then cremating them in open pits or pyre. Where did this story originate. Seems like they would learn the first time.

The 'holocaust' Industry has in fact painted themselves into a corner. Their only option is to 'double down', bluff & threaten.

Problems within that laughable 'exhumation' scenario:

- The false narrative says that many alleged mass graves were left alone and not cremated because of the sheer numbers and logistical war problems.

- Therefore and since 'eyewitnesses' claim to know exactly where these alleged 'mass graves' are; excavating, verifying, and displaying human remains would be a simple procedure, IF the impossible tales were true.

- Even IF exhumations were done at some alleged sites, there is still massive human remains that would be available, we see nothing. Cremating Jews on the claimed 'pyres' would not render then invisible. Charred remains would be available all over the place, IF true.

- Even IF exhumations were done at some alleged sites, the alleged 'mass graves' that the exhumed corpses were supposedly taken from would still leave a massive, highly detectable footprints visible with GPR, sonar, infra-red, basic photography, and the naked eye, yet we see nothing.

Revisionists are just the messengers.

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Re: Krzysztof Gorczyca's fraudulent excavation of the Chelmno 'death camp'

Postby Kingfisher » 3 years 2 months ago (Wed May 25, 2016 1:46 pm)

Hannover wrote: - Even IF exhumations were done at some alleged sites, the alleged 'mass graves' that the exhumed corpses were supposedly taken from would still leave a massive, highly detectable footprints visible with GPR, sonar, infra-red, basic photography, and the naked eye, yet we see nothing.[/i][/b]

This is the big one, Hannover. They will argue black is white over all the other points; they will demand you prove that the remains couldn't have been thrown into a river or sprinkled on fields in unknown locations, but we know where these pits were and no one can deny that if the pits were dug they destroyed the subsoil strata for evermore.

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Re: Krzysztof Gorczyca's fraudulent excavation of the Chelmno 'death camp'

Postby Breker » 3 years 2 months ago (Wed May 25, 2016 7:41 pm)

Apparently there is another phony Chelmno 'archaeologist" named Nowak who also goes around picking up buttons, bottles, etc. and then claims he has found the remains of hundreds of thousands of Jews. Real nut ball stuff.
It is truly amazing how bereft of proof the 6,000,000 religion really is,
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