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Where did 70% of Jews not 'selected' for labour, go? Where are all the missing Jews? / lack of human remains

Postby Cyprus Lady2 » 3 years 2 months ago (Thu May 26, 2016 3:24 am)

I am new to revisionism and have just returned from a visit to Auschwitz. The one question I can't answer to myself, or to others when I try to discuss the lack of gas chambers, is where are all the missing Jews? When families arrived at a camp like Auschwitz and the fit and strong were selected for labour and 70% were not registered and were "sent to the gas chamber". Relatives never saw them ever again. I understand they did not go to a gas chamber, but where did they go? Why are we led to believe so many people never saw their parents again etc. If they were transmitted straight to another camp, like Belsen say, is it that they died of typhus and their deaths were never registered? Lost behind the iron curtain?

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Re: Where did 70% of Jews not 'selected' for labour, go? Where are all the missing Jews? / lack of human remains

Postby Hannover » 3 years 2 months ago (Thu May 26, 2016 9:07 am)

Your question has been covered repeatedly & easily at this forum, I suggest that you look around here.
The illogical question implies that Jews were somehow exterminated, there is no proof of such a claim.

What proof do you have that '70% were not registered & were sent to the gas chambers'?

There are big cash incentives to make wild claims, which means such claimants have a conflict of interest and lack credibility from the beginning. They are not unbiased, not neutral, IOW they have an agenda.

Recall the countless 'testimonies / eyewitnesses' which 'prove' that witchcraft is fact. Do you believe them?

Simply put, Jews went where Jews are. They were pouring out of Europe after the war.
Recall the 'Displaced Persons Camps'. Recall Jews flowing into Palestine, the US, S. America, Australia, Canada, on & on,

recommended:

J. Graf and the illogical canard: 'Where did Jews go then?' / & more
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8272

WJC's Stephen Wise said 1,250,000 - 1,500,000 Polish Jews homeless in Europe, outside of Poland, & alive after WWII
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10191

Concentration Camp Vital Statistics
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7581

Revisionists have shown countless examples of 'where the Jews went', the Bletchley Park decrypts are just one example.

also see: Soviets evacuating Jews:
http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blog ... ab6440df0f

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Re: Where did 70% of Jews not 'selected' for labour, go? Where are all the missing Jews? / lack of human remains

Postby borjastick » 3 years 2 months ago (Thu May 26, 2016 10:03 am)

Hannover is quite correct in what he says but perhaps you have accepted numbers as put to you without question.

The numbers game is a well ploughed topic on this site, just search and you will find it readily enough.

If you start with acceptance of the 6m figure you'll soon find yourself trying to work out where those who weren't work fit enough went. However if you, like many of us, think that the numbers were never that accurate and indeed the six million figure is pure make believe nonsense then you can easily bring the 'where did they go' conundrum under control.

The first giveaway is the classic reduction of the Auschwitz death toll from 4m to 1.1m or even less.

We know that camp inmates were routinely moved about the camp system to fulfill the work load needs and we also know that many many tens of thousands were removed before the war by the Russians from Poland, Ukraine etc.

Also never forget that if you arrived at a camp with a bunch of your family and went through a shower, head shave and a clothing change into a striped uniform would you recognise your nearest and dearest among the hundreds or thousands of new inmates?

Use logic and common sense and you'll find the answer. Where are the mass graves and human remains? Why is there a legal penalty in most european countries for questioning it?

Why are there so many jews in the world today who changed their family name after the war?
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Re: Where did 70% of Jews not 'selected' for labour, go? Where are all the missing Jews? / lack of human remains

Postby Tomt » 3 years 2 months ago (Thu May 26, 2016 12:00 pm)

In 2003 there were about 1 million jewish holocaust survivors. Ok imagine how many there were in 1945. There is also at least 5 million Jews who have applied for benefits for being displaced under the Nazi regime. It's estimated that there was only about 4.5 million under Nazi control at any one time. In poland alone it's claimed that every single one of the 3 or so million Jews that lived there were killed. That's a 100 percent kill rate. The proper question is not what happened to the jews but who did they kill.

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Postby Dresden » 3 years 2 months ago (Thu May 26, 2016 2:03 pm)

Tomt said:

"It's estimated that there was only about 4.5 million under Nazi control at any one time"


Not at any one time, but all together....from 1933 to 1945.

There's a big difference.
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Postby onetruth » 3 years 2 months ago (Thu May 26, 2016 3:12 pm)

Tomt wrote: It's estimated that there was only about 4.5 million under Nazi control at any one time..


Estimated by who ?

Steve F wrote:Tomt said:

"It's estimated that there was only about 4.5 million under Nazi control at any one time"


Not at any one time, but all together....from 1933 to 1945.

There's a big difference.


How did you arrive at that number ?

Here is the text from the Wannsee conference, January 20 1942, regarding the "Final Solution of the Jewish Question :

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Approximately 11 million Jews will be involved in the final solution of the European Jewish question, distributed as follows among the individual countries:

Country - Number

A. Germany proper 131,800
Austria 43,700
Eastern territories 420,000
General Government 2,284,000
Bialystok 400,000
Protectorate Bohemia and Moravia 74,200
Estonia - free of Jews -
Latvia 3,500
Lithuania 34,000
Belgium 43,000
Denmark 5,600
France / occupied territory 165,000
unoccupied territory 700,000
Greece 69,600
Netherlands 160,800
Norway 1,300

B. Bulgaria 48,000
England 330,000
Finland 2,300
Ireland 4,000
Italy including Sardinia 58,000
Albania 200
Croatia 40,000
Portugal 3,000
Rumania including Bessarabia 342,000
Sweden 8,000
Switzerland 18,000
Serbia 10,000
Slovakia 88,000
Spain 6,000
Turkey (European portion) 55,500
Hungary 742,800
USSR 5,000,00

Ukraine 2,994,684
White Russia
excluding Bialystok 446,484

Total over 11,000,000

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Re: Where did 70% of Jews not 'selected' for labour, go? Where are all the missing Jews? / lack of human remains

Postby Hannover » 3 years 2 months ago (Thu May 26, 2016 3:57 pm)

onetruth:
The 11 million you quoted includes regions and countries that were never under German control. :lol:

recommended:

'The Wannsee Conference Protocol
Anatomy of a Fabrication'
http://codoh.com/library/document/934/

'Auschwitz: A Judge Looks at the Evidence'
http://codoh.com/library/document/230/

'Wannsee Conference minutes debunked'
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1647

'F. Luxemberg-Eisenberg lies about Wannsee Conference minutes'
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9443

Still waiting for you to show us the massive remains of dead Jews that are alleged.
Also, maybe you'll start a thread on exactly how the impossible 'gas chambers' worked.

Revisionists are just the messengers.

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Re: Where did 70% of Jews not 'selected' for labour, go? Where are all the missing Jews? / lack of human remains

Postby Dutch beginner » 3 years 2 months ago (Thu May 26, 2016 5:20 pm)

It is said that in Sobibor, some people were selected for work, while their children and wife were transported. Later it was said that they were gassed, which revisionists do not believe.

If they were transported, where did they went and why nobody returns?

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Postby Breker » 3 years 2 months ago (Thu May 26, 2016 6:35 pm)

Mr. Dutch Beginner:
It is said that in Sobibor, some people were selected for work, while their children and wife were transported. Later it was said that they were gassed, which revisionists do not believe.
If they were transported, where did they went [go] and why nobody returns?
What, you cannot read what has been posted?
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Re: Where did 70% of Jews not 'selected' for labour, go? Where are all the missing Jews? / lack of human remains

Postby hermod » 3 years 2 months ago (Thu May 26, 2016 6:50 pm)

Where did the Jews go?

Roughly to the same places as the Bulgarian Jews. The Bulgarian Jews were not deported to German concentration camps during WW2. Even Zionist-owned Wikipedia states: "not one [Bulgarian Jew] was deported or murdered by the Nazis." There were around 43,000 Jews in Bulgaria after WW1 and around 44,000 ones after WW2. But their number had dropped to around 6,000 only 10 years later. In other words, 85% of Bulgaria's Jewish community disappeared between 1946 and 1956!!
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Re: Where did 70% of Jews not 'selected' for labour, go? Where are all the missing Jews? / lack of human remains

Postby Breker » 3 years 2 months ago (Thu May 26, 2016 7:46 pm)

Where did the cult of 6,000,000 Jews, and let us not forget the throw-in 5,000,000 others, go?
Well, the horrible Zionists say they went into well known huge pits - mass graves.
So .....
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Postby Dresden » 3 years 2 months ago (Thu May 26, 2016 8:19 pm)

Breker said:

"Where did the cult of 6,000,000 Jews, and let us not forget the throw-in 5,000,000 others, go?
Well, the horrible Zionists say they went into well known huge pits - mass graves.
So ....."

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Postby EtienneSC » 3 years 2 months ago (Fri May 27, 2016 6:10 am)

Perhaps the original question was more immediate: i.e. what happened when families were separated? This was answered in one case at the Zundel trial when people allegedly taken to a gas chamber in trucks were said probably to be taken to a sub camp - Auschwitz itself being a Stammlager (Stalag) at the center of a system of camps.

I am not aware of revisionists addressing the scale and practicalities of separation of families in the camp system. Several eye witness testimonies include stories of this type. It is my understanding that in one case the deportation of families was only agreed to by the Germans at the request of another nation, as they themselves only wanted laborers. Presumably orders would have to be issued about this, so you would think the information would be available.

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Postby WarpSoldier » 3 years 2 months ago (Fri May 27, 2016 7:24 am)

Denierbud explored this topic in his Auschwitz film, explaining that Jews/anyone not selected for work were brought to other camps. Regarding the typhus issue, it would not have mattered if people left or not, it was rampant at Birkenau, so anyone heading to Bergen Belsen either already had it, or just weren't fragile enough to get ill.

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Postby Lysander_Spooner » 3 years 2 months ago (Fri May 27, 2016 8:16 am)

To comment on OP's point that many of the jews never saw their relatives again (so they say, any way...you know you've always got to be skeptical :lol: ): In my admittedly limited first-hand experience with jews, I have gotten the strong impression of a lesser degree of cohesion and love among their nuclear families. That is not a criticism. It is just a reflection of differences that exist among all the people of the world. Maybe it wasn't so important for the jews in the KZ system to keep up with family members?


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