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Comparing the stories of Amon Göth and Karl Otto Koch

Postby Friens2020 » 4 years 3 months ago (Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:18 am)

I just made an interesting find reading the wikipedia articles of these two:

Apparantly Amon Göth is said to have killed up to 500 prisoners. Mieczysław Pemper says that Göth randomly killed people almost every day.
We all know the stories of him allegedly randomly shooting Jews from his balcony in his villa in the Plaszow KZ.
Yet Göth was never sentenced for it. Nothing.

So far so good.
What makes this story really weird is if you also look at the story of someone else: Karl Otto Koch.
Koch did very similar things as Göth allegedly did in Plaszow. Koch killed 3 people, ordered SS soldiers to kill more and stole Jewish goods (just as Göth did as well). The difference is that Koch was sentenced to death by the Nazi government for these things.

So... How the hell did Göth get away killing hundreds of people in the daylight on the camps ground for literally everyone to see (resulting in endless amounts of eye-witnesses from both prisoners and soldiers) while Karl Otto Koch was sentenced to death for killing 3 people and stealing Jewish goods (just as Göth did as well)?
Both were in same positions and committed the same crimes, only that ironically Göth even commited them in way bigger dimensions. So treating them differently would not make any sense. If at all Göth would have been the one who wouldve deserved to be treated worse, not Koch.

Did anyone notice this before?

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Re: Comparing the stories of Amon Göth and Karl Otto Koch

Postby cold beer » 4 years 2 months ago (Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:53 pm)

Good observation.
Couple that with the fact that there was no balcony overlooking the camp.

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Re: Comparing the stories of Amon Göth and Karl Otto Koch

Postby Dresden » 4 years 2 months ago (Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:22 pm)

cold beer wrote:Good observation.
Couple that with the fact that there was no balcony overlooking the camp.


That's right, but there WAS a camp overlooking the balcony.

What Göth should have done was to take his rifle to the camp and order some inmates to go stand on his balcony.....then he could have stood on the edge of the hill and shot them.

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Re: Comparing the stories of Amon Göth and Karl Otto Koch

Postby Gordon Bennett » 1 week 1 day ago (Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:33 am)

Are the air photos available anywhere?

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Re: Comparing the stories of Amon Göth and Karl Otto Koch

Postby Moderator » 1 week 1 day ago (Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:58 am)

Gordon Bennett wrote:Are the air photos available anywhere?

try:
https://archive.org/details/AirPhotoEvidenceAuschwitz
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Re: Comparing the stories of Amon Göth and Karl Otto Koch

Postby Gordon Bennett » 1 week 20 hours ago (Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:54 pm)

Unfortunately there's no pictures of Amon Goth's camp in Kraków-Płaszów. All there seems to be is a drawing of where Goth's villa was situated -- something which isn't really worth that much on its own.

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Re: Comparing the stories of Amon Göth and Karl Otto Koch

Postby Breker » 1 week 14 hours ago (Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:19 pm)

Gordon Bennett wrote:Unfortunately there's no pictures of Amon Goth's camp in Kraków-Płaszów. All there seems to be is a drawing of where Goth's villa was situated -- something which isn't really worth that much on its own.

Mr. Bennett:
Do you believe that Amon Göth was guilty of what is alleged in the Wikipedia article referenced in the OP?
If so, why?
Thank you, B.
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Re: Comparing the stories of Amon Göth and Karl Otto Koch

Postby Hektor » 6 days 19 hours ago (Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:40 pm)

Gordon Bennett wrote:Unfortunately there's no pictures of Amon Goth's camp in Kraków-Płaszów. All there seems to be is a drawing of where Goth's villa was situated -- something which isn't really worth that much on its own.

What would you gain then from an air photo? The perspective would be from above and probably not clear to see the elevation of the object to be seen (Sure there can be exceptions to this depending on angle from which photo is taken).

Perhaps you should try to use google maps. There is a function for elevation.

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Re: Comparing the stories of Amon Göth and Karl Otto Koch

Postby Revision » 6 days 13 hours ago (Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:13 am)

I wasn't able to upload pictures to this forum for some reason. (It only shows "HTTP error")

So I uploaded some pictures regarding this subject to here instead: https://revisionbc.blogspot.com/2020/09 ... house.html

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Re: Comparing the stories of Amon Göth and Karl Otto Koch

Postby Gordon Bennett » 6 days 9 hours ago (Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:31 am)

Revision wrote:I wasn't able to upload pictures to this forum for some reason. (It only shows "HTTP error")

So I uploaded some pictures regarding this subject to here instead: https://revisionbc.blogspot.com/2020/09 ... house.html



Wow, you put a lot of work into that. Amazing thanks. Looking at the pictures do you think Goth's balcony overlooked the camp?

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Re: Comparing the stories of Amon Göth and Karl Otto Koch

Postby Gordon Bennett » 6 days 9 hours ago (Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:36 am)

Breker wrote:
Gordon Bennett wrote:Unfortunately there's no pictures of Amon Goth's camp in Kraków-Płaszów. All there seems to be is a drawing of where Goth's villa was situated -- something which isn't really worth that much on its own.

Mr. Bennett:
Do you believe that Amon Göth was guilty of what is alleged in the Wikipedia article referenced in the OP?
If so, why?
Thank you, B.


No, I don't but that isn't the point. If I debate anyone on the subject I need to be able to back up my argument and if I could just find a photo that showed his villa wasn't overlooking the camp, that would be the easiest way of going about it. Far too many people think Schindler's List the movie shows the reality of what life was like in the camps and I find that frustrating to say the least.

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Re: Comparing the stories of Amon Göth and Karl Otto Koch

Postby Gordon Bennett » 6 days 8 hours ago (Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:41 am)

Hektor wrote:
Gordon Bennett wrote:Unfortunately there's no pictures of Amon Goth's camp in Kraków-Płaszów. All there seems to be is a drawing of where Goth's villa was situated -- something which isn't really worth that much on its own.

What would you gain then from an air photo? The perspective would be from above and probably not clear to see the elevation of the object to be seen (Sure there can be exceptions to this depending on angle from which photo is taken).

Perhaps you should try to use google maps. There is a function for elevation.


Yes, I did consider that but I wasn't sure if that was the case with all aerial photos. I thought there might be some that make it clear regarding elevation. Now that I've considered it, I see I could be wrong.

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Re: Comparing the stories of Amon Göth and Karl Otto Koch

Postby Revision » 5 days 10 hours ago (Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:14 am)

Gordon Bennett wrote:
Revision wrote:I wasn't able to upload pictures to this forum for some reason. (It only shows "HTTP error")

So I uploaded some pictures regarding this subject to here instead: https://revisionbc.blogspot.com/2020/09 ... house.html



Wow, you put a lot of work into that. Amazing thanks. Looking at the pictures do you think Goth's balcony overlooked the camp?



I'm not sure if there was vegetation for example obscuring his view, but he could at most see only the corner of the camp. Shooting camps inmates from the real place would have been definitely a lot harder thing than what the movie depicts.

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Re: Comparing the stories of Amon Göth and Karl Otto Koch

Postby Breker » 4 days 19 hours ago (Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:13 pm)

Gordon Bennett wrote:
Breker wrote:
Gordon Bennett wrote:Unfortunately there's no pictures of Amon Goth's camp in Kraków-Płaszów. All there seems to be is a drawing of where Goth's villa was situated -- something which isn't really worth that much on its own.

Mr. Bennett:
Do you believe that Amon Göth was guilty of what is alleged in the Wikipedia article referenced in the OP?
If so, why?
Thank you, B.


No, I don't but that isn't the point. If I debate anyone on the subject I need to be able to back up my argument and if I could just find a photo that showed his villa wasn't overlooking the camp, that would be the easiest way of going about it. Far too many people think Schindler's List the movie shows the reality of what life was like in the camps and I find that frustrating to say the least.

But that is the point. If anyone claims that Amon Goth killed people from a vantage point that overlooked a camp or not, they would necessarily need to have support for the claim that he was a murderer.
So, do you believe that Amon Goth murdered anyone? Regardless of what the always shady Wikipedia claims.
If so, please present the proof..

I pursue this since I see you have implied other crimes for which you have not presented proof.
Like your thread OP:
What was the Wehrmacht guilty of?
As if they were in fact "guilty".
Here it is:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12027
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