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Re: Comparing the stories of Amon Göth and Karl Otto Koch

Postby Gordon Bennett » 1 week 2 days ago (Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:15 am)

Breker wrote:
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Breker wrote:Mr. Bennett:
Do you believe that Amon Göth was guilty of what is alleged in the Wikipedia article referenced in the OP?
If so, why?
Thank you, B.


No, I don't but that isn't the point. If I debate anyone on the subject I need to be able to back up my argument and if I could just find a photo that showed his villa wasn't overlooking the camp, that would be the easiest way of going about it. Far too many people think Schindler's List the movie shows the reality of what life was like in the camps and I find that frustrating to say the least.

But that is the point. If anyone claims that Amon Goth killed people from a vantage point that overlooked a camp or not, they would necessarily need to have support for the claim that he was a murderer.
So, do you believe that Amon Goth murdered anyone? Regardless of what the always shady Wikipedia claims.
If so, please present the proof..

I pursue this since I see you have implied other crimes for which you have not presented proof.
Like your thread OP:
What was the Wehrmacht guilty of?
As if they were in fact "guilty".
Here it is:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12027
B.


I refer you to the first three words of my comment where I wrote 'No, I don't...' in reply to your question. I really can't make it any plainer.

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Re: Comparing the stories of Amon Göth and Karl Otto Koch

Postby Gordon Bennett » 1 week 2 days ago (Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:51 pm)

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Revision wrote:I wasn't able to upload pictures to this forum for some reason. (It only shows "HTTP error")

So I uploaded some pictures regarding this subject to here instead: https://revisionbc.blogspot.com/2020/09 ... house.html



Wow, you put a lot of work into that. Amazing thanks. Looking at the pictures do you think Goth's balcony overlooked the camp?



I'm not sure if there was vegetation for example obscuring his view, but he could at most see only the corner of the camp. Shooting camps inmates from the real place would have been definitely a lot harder thing than what the movie depicts.


Impossible probably, he would have also been court-martialed pretty swiftly I reckon.

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Re: Comparing the stories of Amon Göth and Karl Otto Koch

Postby Hektor » 6 days 13 hours ago (Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:03 am)

Gordon Bennett wrote:
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Gordon Bennett wrote:

Wow, you put a lot of work into that. Amazing thanks. Looking at the pictures do you think Goth's balcony overlooked the camp?



I'm not sure if there was vegetation for example obscuring his view, but he could at most see only the corner of the camp. Shooting camps inmates from the real place would have been definitely a lot harder thing than what the movie depicts.


Impossible probably, he would have also been court-martialed pretty swiftly I reckon.

Indeed. That's proof beyond reasonable doubt that the portrayal in the movie is false.
Spielberg spent quite some effort to make it look 'authentic' though by putting it into Black and White.
The book the movie is based on doesn't actually make that claim.


The house also stood in a settled area:
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Admittedly we do not know how it looked like there 75 years ago. But I think it's likely that a lot of the buildings already stood there / that the area was of residential character at the time. So if somebody shot prisoners there from a house, it won't have gone unnoticed. It would also have reached other authorities triggering an investigation.


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