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Re: Josef Mengele: Sportsmanlike - The Hardest Working Deception of WWII (new video)

Postby Leibniz » 2 years 2 months ago (Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:50 pm)

onetruth wrote:I suggest you see minute : 3:19 - Mengele admits to his son participating in selections sending people to there death :

The video makes me feel sorry for Rolf. Poor guy has been lied to about his father.....and the people who did that are cruel cruel people.


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Re: Josef Mengele: Sportsmanlike - The Hardest Working Deception of WWII (new video)

Postby Hektor » 2 years 2 months ago (Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:12 pm)

Leibniz wrote:
onetruth wrote:I suggest you see minute : 3:19 - Mengele admits to his son participating in selections sending people to there death :

The video makes me feel sorry for Rolf. Poor guy has been lied to about his father.....and the people who did that are cruel cruel people.


Similar things happened to the Hoess children and many other "Nazis" that had some function during world war 2. And for the most part that seems to have worked. But be that as it may. OneTruth's assertion that Rolf says that his father Joseph told him about selections for extermination is false. It's not even ambiguous. The worst you can get out of it is that it was "a horrible system". If you are a doctor that has to do with hundreds of epidemic death every day it probably is. But then we also have to deal with the issue where this epidemics like typhus did come from.

Here is a hint:
https://archive.org/details/ReportFromP ... WarTwo1943

And I think that is worthwhile to pursuit further. I've seen similar things being mentioned in similar reports.

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Re: Josef Mengele: Sportsmanlike - The Hardest Working Deception of WWII (new video)

Postby onetruth » 2 years 2 months ago (Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:24 am)

Hannover wrote:onetruth:
Rolf Mengele on meeting his father, Dr. Josef Mengele -

I suggest you see minute : 3:19 - Mengele admits to his son participating in selections sending people to there death :





No he didn't.
In fact the son says his father said it was "a lie, propaganda", the son then says he "thinks this was admitted (selections) very clearly", please review the video.
There is nothing there about 'exterminating Jews'. Quite the contrary,

Of course, no one questions that Auschwitz labor camp inmates were 'selected' for worked based upon their age & health.
And the fact that Jews who were not selected for labor were not killed shoots down entire matter.
Equating 'selection' with mass murder is not based upon fact & rational thinking.


Hektor wrote:Even with the biggest bias in favor of an Exterminationist position, Rolf doesn't admit or claim that his father confirmed selection FOR GASSING or EXTERMINATION. In fact it's clear that Josef Mengele dismissed such allegations as atrocity propaganda.
That's quite extraordinary. If we assume that there was a National Socialist Policy of exterminating Jews in Auschwitz, wouldn't we expect Mengele to proudly announce this to his son explaining the necessity of it all? But old Mengele didn't do that.

What Rolf Mengele reports is 100% in line with the general Revisionist Position. This is the case although I think that Rolf actually essentially believed the Holocaust narrative as he was hegemonial at the time.

So it's an excellent find, for which we ought to thank you OneTruth!



I suggest both of you listen to the recording again.

This are the exact words :

After his father dismissed the accusation Rolf mengele states ( minute 3:18 ) :

" I THAN STEPPED BACKWARD AND SAID OK - SELECTIONS ! , I THINK THAT WAS A FACT , AND WAS ADMITTED BY HIM VERY CLEARLY "

I would like to remind you that Rolf mengele is NOT a revisionists . He believes in his father crimes . So when he says " SELECTIONS " he means selections as mainstream historians view them - selections that sent people to their death.

Had he thought those where mere mere work arrangement why would he feel the need to confront his father about it ? why would he mention that his father admitted that fact to him ? This make no sense unless Rolf Mengele thought those " selections " involved something very sinister indeed.

It is also clear from the way he says it that Rolf Mengele does not think those " selections " meant some non harmful procedure - one would have to be blind not to see that.

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Re: Josef Mengele: Sportsmanlike - The Hardest Working Deception of WWII (new video)

Postby Hannover » 2 years 2 months ago (Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:11 am)

I THINK THAT WAS A FACT , AND WAS ADMITTED BY HIM VERY CLEARLY

He 'thinks something was admitted clearly'. :lol:

I have no doubt that selections were "admitted" somewhere, some time, but there was nothing evil about them.

Dr. Mengele died when?
When did he last speak to his son?
The date of the interview is ... ?

Who has had it pounded into their brains since the end of the war that selections for work meant 'gas chambers'?
In fact, in Germany and much of Europe he would be jailed if he didn't imply that 'selections' = 'gas chambers'.

again:
There is nothing there about 'exterminating Jews'. Quite the contrary,

Of course, no one questions that Auschwitz labor camp inmates were 'selected' for worked based upon their age & health.
And the fact that Jews who were not selected for labor were not killed shoots down entire matter.
Equating 'selections' with mass murder is not based upon fact & rational thinking.

Recall the thousands of Jews who retreated with the SS and thousands of Jews that stayed to await the advancing communsts after being given a choice to stay or go with the SS, most went with the SS.
Recall Jews born at Auschwitz.
Recall Jews being treated for illnesses at Auschwitz.

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Re: Josef Mengele: Sportsmanlike - The Hardest Working Deception of WWII (new video)

Postby Hektor » 2 years 2 months ago (Fri Sep 02, 2016 2:25 pm)

onetruth wrote:.....
I suggest both of you listen to the recording again.

This are the exact words :

After his father dismissed the accusation Rolf mengele states ( minute 3:18 ) :

" I THAN STEPPED BACKWARD AND SAID OK - SELECTIONS ! , I THINK THAT WAS A FACT , AND WAS ADMITTED BY HIM VERY CLEARLY "

I would like to remind you that Rolf mengele is NOT a revisionists . He believes in his father crimes . So when he says " SELECTIONS " he means selections as mainstream historians view them - selections that sent people to their death.

Had he thought those where mere mere work arrangement why would he feel the need to confront his father about it ? why would he mention that his father admitted that fact to him ? This make no sense unless Rolf Mengele thought those " selections " involved something very sinister indeed.

It is also clear from the way he says it that Rolf Mengele does not think those " selections " meant some non harmful procedure - one would have to be blind not to see that.

It seems you have a problem with proper text analysis here. We got two Protagonists here - and I'm explaining this all on face value no fictitious Eiegesis from my side into what they side:
- Josef Mengele (medical doctor in Auschwitz)
- Rolf Mengele (son of the above didn't grow up with his father)

Rolf Mengele tells us about his visit to his father and how he experienced this. Bear in mind that Rolf grew up with all the propaganda against Germany, which likely included disinformation about his father, too. Given that he has a personal attachment to this, due to his fathers (supposed) role in Auschwitz, plausibly he was be very interested in this. He's obviously believing the narrative that has been constructed via media and education in Germany. So you have a person that thinks Selection = Sending people to gas chambers. This is not in dispute.

Then you have Josef Mengele, who talks out of memory, based on his own experiences. To him Selections have a completely different meaning: Examination and sorting prisoners in terms of labour capability or in need of medical attention. So no, this is not an admission of Dr. Mengele that he took part in homicidal gassings as decision maker on who will be gassed. This becomes very clear, if you listen from 2:43 onwards, especially 3:02ff. There Rolf Reports that his father asked him, whether he couldn't see that this (the media narrative) was propaganda lies.

If the Holocaust Narrative was true, the response would have been different. Something like:"Yeah, it was tough, but we did what we were ordered to, so we exterminated the Jews".

Rolf Mengele seems to be a fairly intelligent person, educated as well, lawyer I think. He speaks English relatively well for a German of his time. But he also appears to be a rather naive character. It's the gullible, but intelligent personality, many Germans have. Since everybody says it, it must be true. No wonder most people believe it. He was actually born short before the end of fighting in Europe, so he must be in his seventies now, possibly still alive.

The issue we have here at hand is typical for the Holocaust subject. Holocaust proponents simply interpret all kind of gruesome ideas into otherwise relatively innocent or ordinary concepts. With other words they change the meaning of what documents and witnesses say or what the artifacts are.


Here is an article:
http://www.nytimes.com/1986/06/18/world ... er-up.html
I guess the interview was done somewhere in the 80s with the meeting of Rolf and Joseph Mengele having occured about a decade or so before.

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Re: Josef Mengele: Sportsmanlike - The Hardest Working Deception of WWII (new video)

Postby Werd » 8 months 4 weeks ago (Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:18 pm)

hermod wrote:A new video worth watching...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfNDW-W19eo

The youtube account has been suspended. Someone else has this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArL_9xv96g0

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Re: Josef Mengele: Sportsmanlike - The Hardest Working Deception of WWII (new video)

Postby atomMan » 2 months 4 days ago (Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:06 am)

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Re: Josef Mengele: Sportsmanlike - The Hardest Working Deception of WWII (new video)

Postby JLAD Prove Me Wrong » 2 months 4 days ago (Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:07 pm)

atomMan wrote:copy exists at archive.org...

https://archive.org/details/TheTruthAboutDrJosefMengele


I reuploaded the video.



Perhaps this can also be put onto CODOH's YouTube channel?
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Re: Josef Mengele: Sportsmanlike - The Hardest Working Deception of WWII (new video)

Postby Sannhet » 2 months 4 days ago (Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:02 pm)

Werd wrote:The youtube account has been suspended.

Why was the youtube account suspended?


JLAD Prove Me Wrong wrote:I reuploaded the video.

Thank you for your efforts!

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EDIT: Only hours after re-upload, it has already been flagged; one must press a "I Understand that This is Offensive" button to watch it.

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Re: Josef Mengele: Sportsmanlike - The Hardest Working Deception of WWII (new video)

Postby Hektor » 2 months 2 days ago (Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:10 pm)

JLAD Prove Me Wrong wrote:
atomMan wrote:copy exists at archive.org...

https://archive.org/details/TheTruthAboutDrJosefMengele


I reuploaded the video.



Perhaps this can also be put onto CODOH's YouTube channel?


And it's already shadow-banned, but thanks for the effort.

If that persists, I think other platforms could become more attractive to private video makers.

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Re: Josef Mengele: Sportsmanlike - The Hardest Working Deception of WWII (new video)

Postby atomMan » 2 months 2 days ago (Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:00 pm)

And it's already shadow-banned ...


just an FYI if it helps ... the workaround when looking for unlisted stuff on YouTube is to use a 3rd party search engine (even google will work) to search the youtube.com domain - here's an example:

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"The Truth About Dr. Josef Mengele" site:youtube.com
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