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admission: 'Reality of Gas Chambers Not Established'

Postby Hannover » 3 years 3 months ago (Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:10 pm)

it is necessary to recognize that the lack of traces involves the inability to directly establish the reality of the existence of homicidal gas chambers.”

- French 'historian' Jacques Baynac, Le Nouveau Quotidien (Lausanne, Switzerland), Sept. 3, 1996, p. 14.

At the Nuremberg Show Trials the existence of gas chambers was just assumed without a forensic study* and could not be questioned, aka: 'judicial notice'.

In fact, The Charter of the International Military Tribunal permitted the use of normally inadmissible "evidence."
Article 19 specified that:
The Tribunal shall not be bound by technical rules of evidence... and shall admit any evidence which it deems to have probative value."

* Another fact, there was a detailed study presented at Nuremberg by the communist Soviets which 'proved' the existence of steam chambers that were used to lobster Jews. It was accepted by the Allied powers without being questioned. :lol:

And of course this howler:
It is not necessary to ask how, technically, such a mass murder was possible. It was possible technically since it took place. That is the necessary point of departure for any historical inquiry on this subject. It is our function simply to recall that truth: there is not, there cannot be, any debate about the existence of the gas chambers".

- Pierre Vidal-Naquet with Léon Poliakov, published in Le Monde on 21 February 1979, page 23, signed by 34 'historians'


Also, there were not and still haven't been any excavations with contents verified and shown of the '6M Jews & 5M others' that are said to be buried in allegedly known enormous mass graves.

Yep, that's how they roll.

Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the laughable 'holocaust' storyline is the message.

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If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: admission: 'Reality of Gas Chambers Not Established'

Postby Jurgen » 3 years 3 months ago (Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:45 am)

How on earth do the Believers answer away this Article 19?

Has to be one of the most openly corrupt loopholes I have ever heard of in a legal document! Not that I have read many legal documents.....but even to my legally ignorant eyes this is dodgy as hell.
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Re: admission: 'Reality of Gas Chambers Not Established'

Postby madhatter » 3 years 3 months ago (Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:08 am)

from Power Behind The Government Today (1963) Lassell

page 170:

The Council on Foreign Relations, an organization supported by The Rockefeller Foundation, The Carnegie Corporation and others, made up its mind that no “revisionism” was to be encouraged after World War II: The following is an extract from the 1946 Report of The Rockefeller Foundation, referring to the Council’s work:

“The Committee on Studies of the Council on Foreign Relations is concerned that the debunking journalistic campaign following World War 1 should not be repeated and believes that the American public deserves a clear and competent statement of our basic aims and activities during the second World War.”

Accordingly, a three volume history of the War was to be prepared under the direction of Professor William Langer of Harvard , in which (one must gather this from the use of the term “debunking”) no revisionism was to appear. In other words, the official propaganda of World War 1 was to be perpetuated. - and the public was to be protected against learning the truth.

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Re: admission: 'Reality of Gas Chambers Not Established'

Postby Hektor » 3 years 3 months ago (Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:19 pm)

Jurgen wrote:How on earth do the Believers answer away this Article 19?

Has to be one of the most openly corrupt loopholes I have ever heard of in a legal document! Not that I have read many legal documents.....but even to my legally ignorant eyes this is dodgy as hell.

The vast majority of people, the lemmings, don't have the intellectual capacity (or interest) to deal with such technical details of jurisprudence. They see that there was a trial in the outer form: Judges, Prosecutors, Defense Council, Accused and Witnesses. And that theater lets them assume that it was for real. Add to this the highly polarized atmosphere of the war years, atrocity propaganda in the press and you get the mass of people assuming that it was a just verdict and that the accusation must be true.

But consider that it wasn't only the NS-Leaders plus Reich officials that were on trial. By the blanket condemnation the ideas they stood for were demonized as well. That includes e.g. the Nation state, folk, race, military virtues, family values, tradition, law obedience, civic virtues, sense of community etc.

And guess what was thrown under the bus in Western societies since then? Have a look in the press, they start reaping the benefits from turning the occidental values upside down.

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Re: admission: 'Reality of Gas Chambers Not Established'

Postby Jurgen » 3 years 3 months ago (Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:24 pm)

Hektor wrote:
Jurgen wrote:How on earth do the Believers answer away this Article 19?

Has to be one of the most openly corrupt loopholes I have ever heard of in a legal document! Not that I have read many legal documents.....but even to my legally ignorant eyes this is dodgy as hell.

The vast majority of people, the lemmings, don't have the intellectual capacity (or interest) to deal with such technical details of jurisprudence. They see that there was a trial in the outer form: Judges, Prosecutors, Defense Council, Accused and Witnesses. And that theater lets them assume that it was for real. Add to this the highly polarized atmosphere of the war years, atrocity propaganda in the press and you get the mass of people assuming that it was a just verdict and that the accusation must be true.

But consider that it wasn't only the NS-Leaders plus Reich officials that were on trial. By the blanket condemnation the ideas they stood for were demonized as well. That includes e.g. the Nation state, folk, race, military virtues, family values, tradition, law obedience, civic virtues, sense of community etc.

And guess what was thrown under the bus in Western societies since then? Have a look in the press, they start reaping the benefits from turning the occidental values upside down.


Yes, that makes sense for the layman believer out there. But what of the serious "acolytes" out there. The ones who would argue most vehemently for the validity of the holocaust. People like Thames Darwin and co? How do they explain away these most serious of issues?

As for your final comments, I 110% agree. One of the arguments I have been using with friends and family recently is that of the degradation of our societies. "We have the world that the victors of WWII wanted and have created. The exact world the the Germans were trying to fight against." Or words to that effect.
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Re: admission: 'Reality of Gas Chambers Not Established'

Postby Atigun » 3 years 3 months ago (Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:12 pm)

In a recent poll, ~75% of the people polled said that the U.S. was headed in the wrong direction. The same poll showed that 50%+ of those people thought that Obama was doing a good job. It would seem that Orwell's "Newspeak," the ability to hold two diametrically opposed thoughts at the same time is alive and well in the world. IOW, "The holocaust was a lie and a fraud but it happened."

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Re: admission: 'Reality of Gas Chambers Not Established'

Postby hermod » 3 years 3 months ago (Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:49 am)

One of my favorite admissions that the reality of the Nazi gas chambers is not established, came from Serge Klarfeld in 1986, when he mistakenly believed that Pressac had finally found documentary evidence for the gas chambers.

French magazine VSD, May 29, 1986:

Journalist: How can there be matter for discussion on the existence of the gas chambers?

Serge Klarsfeld: Merely because nobody thought after the war that someday anybody would come to deny their existence. Nobody cared for the gathering of physical evidence. Moreover, the camps with gas chambers, of which the most eerily famous is Auschwitz-Birkenau, are located in Polish territory and were inaccessible for twenty years.

What?!? 4 decades of confident statements about the alleged Nazi gas chambers without any shred of documentary or physical evidence for the existence of such facilities? Amazing! And very telling in fact...

Comment peut-il y avoir matière à discussion sur l’existence des chambres à gaz ?

Tout simplement parce que personne ne pensait après la guerre qu’un jour on en viendrait à nier leur existence. Personne ne s’est préoccupé de rassembler des preuves matérielles. De plus, les camps avec chambres à gaz, dont le plus sinistrement célèbre est Auschwitz-Birkenau, sont situés en territoire polonais et ont été inaccessibles pendant vingt ans.
"But, however the world pretends to divide itself, there are ony two divisions in the world to-day - human beings and Germans. – Rudyard Kipling, The Morning Post (London), June 22, 1915


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