The Forgotten Victims Of Soviet Terror

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The Forgotten Victims Of Soviet Terror

Postby Jurgen » 3 years 2 months ago (Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:49 pm)

I thought this was interesting. A small group of people going about searching for mass graves in Russia.

He says
"The great terror lasted from 1937 to 1953. In Petersburg, 46,000 people were shot. We know where 20,000 are buried. The other 26,000 are still missing. We think they are here. And there are also the 12,000 shot here before 1937. If we're right, there should be 35,000 bodies"


I can't find anything so far about the results of their excavations.

I assume by his comment that "we know where 20,000 are buried", that these remains have been found, and now, they are doing an absolutely amazing thing.

They are looking for the rest of them....

Amazing!

It would be great if this attitude could be applied to holocaust victims.....but then that would shatter the illusion.


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Re: The Forgotten Victims Of Soviet Terror

Postby Hannover » 3 years 2 months ago (Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:37 pm)

Here anyone can see what a real excavation of real mass graves looks like, Katyn:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=758

The Stalin / Soviet era mass murders present problems much different from the non-existent 'holocaust' mass graves.

The alleged 'holocaust' mass graves are said to be located at precisely known sites, i.e.: Auschwitz - 1,250,000 Jews claimed, Treblinka - 900,000 Jews claimed, Sobibor - 250,000 Jews claimed, Babi Yar - 34,000 Jews claimed, etc.
In fact the alleged 'holocaust' sites are marked off, covered, many are physically obstructed from any attempt to excavate. The point being that we know exactly where they are supposed to be, yet we do not see them.

To date there has not been a single verifiable excavation showing the alleged massive human remains of Jews that are claimed to exist in such precisely claimed locations, not one.
There has been some 'holocaust' work easily exposed as laughable frauds. Think about the claimed work of Haimi, Kola, Sturdy-Colls, and claimed immediate post war Communist efforts; all thoroughly debunked. It's all here at this forum.

The Stalin / Soviet era mass graves locations, while indeed some have been found, are a crap shoot to find. Many are thought to be in rather generalized & isolated areas which makes it very challenging for a few energetic people to find. Certainly know one was about to put up signs at the time indicating the exact locations, they would have ended up dead themselves.

Ideally the post USSR Russian government would assist with resources in uncovering these sites, but it is obvious that they have no interest in doing so. They still toss around the notion that the communist Soviets were the good guys and they had to 'break a few eggs to make an omelette'.

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Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the "survivors"? Because it "dishonors the dead"? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

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Re: The Forgotten Victims Of Soviet Terror

Postby Review » 3 years 2 months ago (Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:24 pm)

Hannover wrote:......The Stalin / Soviet era mass graves locations, while indeed some have been found, are a crap shoot to find. Many are thought to be in rather generalized & isolated areas which makes it very challenging for a few energetic people to find. Certainly know one was about to put up signs at the time indicating the exact locations, they would have ended up dead themselves......


And yet, they have on several occasions dug up Soviet mass graves with 10s of thousands of victims, containing tons of bones, and, physically verified that victims were executed. An example from 2010:

At least 3.5 tonnes of bones were extracted from the site on the outskirts of the Pacific Ocean port of Vladivostok after it was discovered by workmen building a road, the city government said in a statement..."Practically all of the skulls have bullet wounds"....a senior researcher with Russian human rights group Memorial... said far more bodies were likely to be found as adjacent sites are studied.

"This happens all over the country, it's impossible to say how often


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russi ... HJ20100609

Metapedia has a short list of dug-up mass graves in the Soviet Union:

Bykivnia - containing an estimated 120,000 - 225,000 corpses[2]
Kurapaty - estimations range from 30,000 to 200,000 bodies found[3]
Butovo - over 20,000 confirmed killed[4]
Sandarmokh - over 9,000 bodies discovered[5]


http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Mass_grave ... viet_Union

When it comes to claimed holocaust mass graves, we get... excuses....wildly inflated or inaccurate stories...etc.


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