Postby Dutch beginner » 6 years 1 month ago (Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:49 pm)
Hi Lohengrin,
It was a long time ago, I react on this forum. And while I was serving on the internet, I take a look on this forum, which I do sometimes. And I was surprised that after a half year, there were some new comments in this thread.
In the last weeks, in the Netherlandse we heard again a lot about the destruction camps and the gass chambers. Nobody want to discuss about the facts, that there is no proof that gas chambers exist in Auschwitz or in Madjanek. Also, nobody knows that the gas chambers in the camps in german are debunked a long time ago, while in the 1950 and 1960, everybody believed in them, but it where reconstructions from Russians and Americans . I think it will take some genarations before some historicians dare to touchs this subject in the Netherlands. Revisionists are demonized here and labeled as antisemitical (well, I always have very much respect for jews and have sympathy for them).
I do not have a political reason for this subject, I am not an anti zionist, I am not Jew, the only thing I am interested in is the truth. I think it is dangerous to make historical lies. That is not fair to the people involved which has to live with a huge burgain (although they are no nazies), and it will create new wars.
In this thread, and also in another thread (Missed Dutch jews was the subject title I believe), I reviewed some possibilities for the large number of Jews, which are died in those camps.
After a half year, I read more about this subject. I read David Cole's book. He has some good arguments that may be not 6 million Jews, but a great number were killed. An important source is the Korherr report and a piece of tekst in the diary from Goebels. The text is vague, and it is only circumstantial evidence. But I was impressed anywhay. Cole thinks that Sobibor and Treblinca where indeed extermination camps, but after some critics and questions he admitted in fora that there is no proof for that claim, but he responded that holocaust deniers do not have a proof either that millions of jews were deported to Russia (instead of only several thousands), and I agree that this is a week spot of deniers. Cole thinks that we may build a case for the theory of Treblinca and Sobibor as extermination camps.
My opinion now is that Eisenhower and the Russians want to demonize the german, because of the de-nazification process, and therefore they constructed evidence for the holocaust version, we now hear on tv, so much. Because they do that, and because no scientist dare to investigate alternatives, it is probably not possible anymore to get the truth. But that does not mean that the nazies do not killed a high amount of Jews, besides the Jews killed (also innocent Jews) bacause of the partizan war.
So I am still not convinced that Jews were not killed on a large scale. but I also must admit that I do not know what happened. May be the truth is waiting in Russian archives what realy happend? I hope that the leaders kept the truth for future generations. I am afraid they don't.
But back to the subject.
I am also convinced that, regardless the fact that everywhere on internet you can find so much scientific evidence, debunking the current holocaust version, I will not see in my life time that this will be spoken in the main stream media. If you dare to talk about it, with friends, they look to you if you talks about a conspirency theory. But If you tell them about scientific evidence, e.g. Germer Rudolf, they begin to doubt, but they change the subject.
It was a taboo, and it wil remain so, for a long time, I am afraid. And I think, that is not good.