Hannover wrote:Balsamo said to me:
1. I agree with you that the picture of the lady being hanged is an obvious fake – was it really used by the Soviets? – but the picture you are accusing to be a fake looks much more like the second one of you example. Of course, some elements to prove your assertion would be nice, but also why would any Soviet fakers introduce such a fake in an Album made by a Nazi?
2. Where is the crime that it is supposed to denounce? Do the three men looks German to you? What would be the point to fake this one?
Don’t you think that the Soviets would have been more explicit if they wanted to fake a picture that could be used to prove the gassing?
Seriously.
3. My stance on the Hunt case is that he really tried hard – the best he could – to do what most of you have never done, that is giving some substance to an alternative “narrative”. Last time I heard about him, he was trying hard to find where those Jews from the Warsaw Ghetto have been “sent”, transited through Treblinka.
Obviously he could not. And has the courage to admit that he could not.
Looking at all those nonsenses that have been written about this only picture, it is pretty obvious that no one here is even trying to even think to an alternative narrative.
4. So maybe it would be a good idea to call for help to some real “revisionists” still trying to do some research to explain what those people were actually doing in front of the entry of Krema V, and how to explain it seriously within a coherent narrative of how Birkenau worked. Especially, an obviously “not selected” old Jew, miles away from the woman camp, clearly not disinfected and given new clothes, and clearly led by four Jews to regain the group that is probably behind the photographer.
Why would the Nazis gather “NOT selected” people right in front of what you call a “morgue” or a “live saving device to fight Typhus” (well that sounds like former Eric), as well as to burn the corpses of the victims of “diseases” of the camp. Another photo shows a substantial group of women and children in the same “little wood”. Does that make any sense to you?
So for the sake of the debate – the lady nor the other women and children are being sent to the gas chambers, as the picture only shows them close to Krema V, the grand ma being led to it – what happened to them next? Where were they led to?
1. It's not just fake, it's a laughably, fake.
"Was it used by the Soviets?" Probably so.
Why would the Soviets manufacture propaganda 'photos' and then insert them into Nazi' albums? Seriously? Surely you jest.
In an attempt to incriminate the 'Nazis', as usual. Recall the bogus Stroop Report & Warsaw.
2. The claim about the photo, which you have apparently forgotten, is that the woman is being taken to 'the gas chambers', which you have no proof of, and such a claim has been shown to be preposterous.
Now, you tell me why you think she's being taken to the 'gas chambers' as is claimed.
3. Of course no one can find the outbound records because they were destroyed. All railways in history have kept records in all directions, at times for their trains. The Germans certainly wouldn't have incriminated themselves by destroying outbound records and while leaving the inbound records.
Hunt's own work debunks his coerced new position, that's why I know he was coerced into making asinine statements. His responses since then have been pure desperation, see my earlier responses in this thread. That assumes that 'Eric Hunt2017' is actually Eric Hunt.
Jews says they know where all their fellow Jews went to, to enormous mass graves. But there is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, or 250,000 at Sobibor) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.
If you are so sure that millions of Jews were murdered, then why do you ask such dumb questions like "what happened to them?"
Show us contents in excavated mass graves, Balsamo.
4. Dumsky stuff. You're just babbling on while you dodge numerous responses The photo is as fake as a 3$ bill for reasons stated.
See here for what you have dodged from me in this thread:
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... rly#p82092And BTW, this is the alleged gassing process at Auschwitz/Birkenau that you believe in.
see:
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... ues#p80969- Hannover
“All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”.
Arthur Schopenhauer
1. Agree, your example of execution is almost absurd. It screams fake which is why i asked if those who did it dared to use it, let's say in a court of Justice of some kind. I have never seen it in any history book that is for sure.
So if we assume it is a real fake, i can understand the reason it has been made: to "prove" an atrocity committed by German soldiers.
But the photo of the old lady near Krema V shows nothing like an atrocity, it barely shows German guards in the back, and that is it.
Actually, there are no picture of atrocity in the whole "Auschwitz album.
So again, there is no reason that would have motivated a forgery.
To incriminate the Nazis you say, but there is nothing in the album that incriminate them beside them having concentration camps...and maybe to have a poor "luggage" service.
We are talking about the Auschwitz pic not the "execution" one.
2. How those picture have been presented is not what i am talking about. IIRC, in the original album, the pictures are just numbered with no comment below.
Actually, i even disagree with one of those added comments that was posted.
Actually i did not mention "gas chambers" except when i asked to forget about them and asked to concentrate only on what the photo shows, that is three men leading a old women toward the entrance of Krema V, or nearby at least.
Now, i asked What were all those people doing there in the first place?
You answer, of let's say the usual "dodge" by asking me a question about the gas chamber.
3. I don't remember having spoken about " train outbounds records" or even mass graves...
All i am asking is how do Revisionists integrate the information provided by the picture into their own narrative of how the inmates were processed to the camp of Birkenau.
I did ask "What happened to them next"... A train arrives at Birkenau, thousands of Jews step out. A group is led to a spot closed to Krema V - quite far away from where they arrived. What is the next step of the procedure? was my question
My discussion is not about the AR camps.
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