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(Alleged) Eric Hunt on Krema II

Postby Werd » 3 years 4 months ago (Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:12 pm)

Other flaws :
1) “No Holes No Holocaust” and Crematorium 2 in Auschwitz-Birkenau.

A) “No Holes, No Holocaust” is a term coined by the French Professor Robert Faurisson. Coming into this “movement” many are led to believe that there are zero holes in the roof of the ruins of Auschwitz-Birkenau’s Crematorium 2. When Faurisson coined the phrase, it appeared to be convincing. The specific Zyklon B insertion holes, although clearly visible in aerial photography and apparently some wartime ground photographs, were not all easy for the casual observer to detect standing at the side of the ruins today. Even “believers” such as Jan Van Pelt couldn’t or didn’t properly try to “find” all the holes in the ruins.

However, the absolute “no holes, no Holocaust” has since been proven to be untrue. Three of the four Zyklon B insertion holes have since been identified. The fourth is covered by too much rubble and may never be identified. The holes are documented at the website https://www.phdn.org/archives/www.mazal ... 20Page.htm

There are many holes in the roof of Crematorium 2. Some were caused by the collapse of the ceiling after the Nazis dynamited the structure to hide the evidence. One hole in particular, with rebar bent backwards, appears to have been enlarged by the Soviets and throughout the years in order to gain easier access to examine the structure below.

Most importantly, three holes have been identified in the alleged locations used for the insertion of Zyklon B, and they line up with the aerial photographs (which there is no proof are doctored). The fourth is covered by rubble and too badly damaged to locate, as is the entirety of nearby Crematorium 3’s gas chamber structure.

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Re: (Alleged) Eric Hunt on Krema II

Postby Rogal Dorn » 3 years 4 months ago (Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:25 am)

Well, the holes identified can't possibly be the alleged zyklon-b insertion holes, given that they aren't in a perfect square shape, right? Any irregularity automatically discredits them as having been purpose-cut.

And the smudges on the aerial photos are too big to be holes. And too misaligned compared to other shadows, to be shadows of vents, if they were in little chimney form.

Mattogno postulates the smudges are the roof having cracked and a layer of bitumen being exposed. Which leaves us with why they cracked in both instances on the roofs of the alleged gas chambers while not cracking on the roofs of the alleged undressing rooms in Crematorium II and III.

Given that these photos were first released by two CIA schmucks (along with convenient labeling), it would make more sense to believe the "holes" were roughly drawn onto the prints enlarged from the negatives, and the original negatives probably destroyed.

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Re: (Alleged) Eric Hunt on Krema II

Postby Werd » 3 years 4 months ago (Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:52 am)

How do you counter the argument then from theblackrabbitofinle that south african air planes took the same aerial photos and they look just like the US photos. And the south african plane ones were in the UK archives. And if they look the same, they must not have been doctored. Not the south african ones, or the american ones. theblackrabbitofinle does not accept Mattogno's counter arguments about what other things on the roof could have caused those dark spots to look like that.

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?p=80753#p80753

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Re: (Alleged) Eric Hunt on Krema II

Postby Rogal Dorn » 3 years 4 months ago (Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:43 am)

Given that the British photos were only "discovered" in 2011, wouldnt it be easy for the agency that kept these prints from public view to have a look at the US ones available since 1979, and use currently available technology to add the smudges in the same shape onto the gas chamber roofs before publishing them?


All we have right now is NCAP website access where we can see the digital versions of the negatives.

We havent actually seen the original physical SAAF negatives, have we?

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Re: (Alleged) Eric Hunt on Krema II

Postby Werd » 3 years 4 months ago (Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:54 am)

As far as I know, theblackrabbitofinle never provided them.

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Re: (Alleged) Eric Hunt on Krema II

Postby Hannover » 3 years 4 months ago (Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:15 am)

Rogal Dorn:
British photos were only "discovered" in 2011
Right, after 7+ decades they mysteriously appear. :roll:

Here's another smoking gun:
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Fake, drawn in 'Jews marching on rooftops'. :lol:

more from:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10729&p=80734&hilit=hannover+rabbit+south+african#p80734
Hannover wrote:
Werd wrote:Hermod, BROI asked me, and he would ask you, what about the South African photos then that were taken by South African pilots and have the roof of the morgue look exactly the same as the photos in the UK and the USA with those spots? I mentioned this in an earlier post and gave a link back to those SA photos. That does need to be dealt with.

They have been dealt with, please re-read my posts in this thread.

Again:
The photos at different times cannot look the same.
It's clearly impossible if one understands the details of the absurd claims.

As I said previously, the excuse for the elongated markings that have been drawn in (that BTW, as shown, do not conform to the alleged shapes of the 'holes / little chimneys' nor the shadows they would have given off) is that these elongated blobby markings are supposedly from the footprints of SS men walking on the roof dropping Zyklon-B into the alleged 'little chimneys'.
Of course they would have been seen by the endless numbers of Jews who were allegedly lined up by the 'gas chambers' door awaiting their turn. See my previous post about the absurdity of the entire gassing scenario.

And as I also said, the elongated 'SS footprints' would have necessarily changed in different photos, due to the different times of the photos, if the story was a real.
The SS men would have made different footprints each time they jumped on top of the 'gas chambers' and allegedly dropped in the Zyklon-B.
The bogus claim is that the gassings were practically non-stop at the time of the photos. Different photo flights would have captured different footprint markings if the fraud was factual.

Also see the previously posted photos of the rooftops of the alleged 'gas chambers' where there are clearly no 'holes / little chimneys' although there should have been if the lies were not lies.

Then there is yet again our impossible 'Jews marching on rooftops'. :lol:
And the train that was added in, but is off the added in track which never existed. :lol:

You're chasing your tail on this, Werd.

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Re: (Alleged) Eric Hunt on Krema II

Postby Hannover » 3 years 4 months ago (Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:21 am)

also from that same thread:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10729
Hannover wrote:Elsewhere 'The Black Rabbit of Inle' is claiming that these red marked photos prove that there were homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz / Birkenau.
Why I do not know. There are no human remains that can be shown. Rather odd for an 'extermination center' where massive numbers of corpses were supposedly buried.
See much more information and additional images that follow these, further giving the game away .

The alleged 'holes' for dumping in the alleged 'extermination' agent, an insect repellent Zyklon-B, have obviously been crudely penciled in. They do not even look like 'holes'.
They are claimed to represent small square protusions projecting upward from the crematorium roofs, 'little chimney' shaped, but instead we see penciled in irregular blotchy lines. :lol:

Following is Krema 2 & 3 in 8 pictures from just two sorties over Birkenau.

23.08.44 - Appear in 3 photos, but the pictures from only 1 camera are available to view online
25.08.44 - Appear in 5 photos, photos from 2 cameras available online

23.08.44:

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25.08.44:
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From the A/B photos we see below an embarrassing attempt to draw in 'Jews being marched to the gas chambers'.
Problem is the forger has drawn in 'Jews' marching on top of a roof. :lol:
Also, this laughable 'Jews marching on a roof to the gas chambers' forgery appears on a second photo at a 'different time'. Oops!

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And there's this analysis of other altered / faked photos taken from:
'Critique of Claims Made by Robert Jan Van Pelt'
by Germar Rudolf
http://www.vho.org/GB/c/GR/RudolfOnVanPelt.html

excerpt:
Photos allegedly showing Zyklon B introduction vents / 'holes'

Prof. van Pelt writes [p. 295]:

These columns were connected to small holes that penetrated the concrete ceiling of the gas chamber, which opened to four small "chimneys" for lack of a better word. These are visible on one of the photos of crematorium 2 taken by the SS during construction, the aerial photos taken by the Americans in 1944 […]

Is Prof. van Pelt an expert for analyzing photos? If he is, than I might add the following conclusions of analyses of the photos van Pelt refers to:

1. Analysis of a section of an air photo of the Birkenau camp taken by a Canadian airplane August 1944.
* The alignment of the patches referred to by Prof. van Pelt s "chimneys" does not agree with the direction of the shadow cast by the crematorium chimney!
* On a photo from September 13, 1944, the patches on crematorium III retain their direction and shape even though the position of the sun has changed![27]
* On that same photo the patches on morgue 1 of crematorium II are missing!
* The length of the patches would corresponds to objects 4.5 ft. wide and rising 10 to 13 ft. above the roof – in other words, large objects, not the approximately 20-inch-high hatches attested to by witnesses.
* These jagged, irregular patches cannot be shadows cast by perpendicular, straight input hatches.

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Schematic drawing of air photo in Ill. 1. One can easily see that the patches on the Morgues I cannot be input hatches: too large, irregular, alignment incorrect for shadows.

and:
The underside of the crematorium said to have had 'little chimneys / holes' leading into the 'gas chambers'.
Problem, no evidence whatsoever of holes ever being there. :lol:
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and:
photo 1 below: top of roof of crematorium no. 2
Taken January/February 1943 where there are no such 'little chimneys' or 'holes'. Note that the little chimneys are claimed to have been ca. 2 feet high. The snow is ca. 2-3 inches in depth.
According to Auschwitz "expert" Robert Jan Van Pelt (who appeared at the Irving/Lipstadt trial), the insertion columns (little chimneys), which were said to protrude out from the roof, were added as an adaptation in August, 1942. :lol:
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This is too easy.
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Re: (Alleged) Eric Hunt on Krema II

Postby cold beer » 3 years 4 months ago (Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:38 pm)

Werd wrote:
Other flaws :
1) “No Holes No Holocaust” and Crematorium 2 in Auschwitz-Birkenau.

A) “No Holes, No Holocaust” is a term coined by the French Professor Robert Faurisson. Coming into this “movement” many are led to believe that there are zero holes in the roof of the ruins of Auschwitz-Birkenau’s Crematorium 2. When Faurisson coined the phrase, it appeared to be convincing. The specific Zyklon B insertion holes, although clearly visible in aerial photography and apparently some wartime ground photographs, were not all easy for the casual observer to detect standing at the side of the ruins today. Even “believers” such as Jan Van Pelt couldn’t or didn’t properly try to “find” all the holes in the ruins.

However, the absolute “no holes, no Holocaust” has since been proven to be untrue. Three of the four Zyklon B insertion holes have since been identified. The fourth is covered by too much rubble and may never be identified. The holes are documented at the website https://www.phdn.org/archives/www.mazal ... 20Page.htm

There are many holes in the roof of Crematorium 2. Some were caused by the collapse of the ceiling after the Nazis dynamited the structure to hide the evidence. One hole in particular, with rebar bent backwards, appears to have been enlarged by the Soviets and throughout the years in order to gain easier access to examine the structure below.

Most importantly, three holes have been identified in the alleged locations used for the insertion of Zyklon B, and they line up with the aerial photographs (which there is no proof are doctored). The fourth is covered by rubble and too badly damaged to locate, as is the entirety of nearby Crematorium 3’s gas chamber structure.

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Where on the linked site does it say that this article has anything to do with Eric Hunt?

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Re: (Alleged) Eric Hunt on Krema II

Postby Werd » 3 years 4 months ago (Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:04 pm)

What I quoted, he wrote on questioningtheholocaust.com. He merely provided a link to phdn.org that he thinks backs up his new stance.

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Re: (Alleged) Eric Hunt on Krema II

Postby Hannover » 3 years 4 months ago (Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:41 pm)

Werd wrote:What I quoted, he wrote on questioningtheholocaust.com. He merely provided a link to phdn.org that he thinks backs up his new stance.

That link, https://www.phdn.org/archives/www.mazal ... 20Page.htm
which fraudulently attempts to support the non-existent, but falsely claimed 'holes / little chimneys, openings for the pesticide Zyklon-B' has been repeatedly debunked, it's old news at the CODOH Forum.

Eric Hunt continues to expose the fact that he is being coerced to make dumb statements.
see:
The Openings for the Introduction of Zyklon B, Part 1
By Carlo Mattogno
http://codoh.com/library/document/1751/

The Openings for the Introduction of Zyklon B, Part 2
By Carlo Mattogno
http://codoh.com/library/document/1752/

The Elusive Holes of Death
By Germar Rudolf
http://codoh.com/library/document/1747/

Kula’s Columns Revisited
By Germar Rudolf
http://codoh.com/library/document/4215/#_ftnref14
and:
Germar Rudolf demolishes the alleged Zyklon-B 'Kula Columns'
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10949

And here's the real, unthreatened Eric Hunt's own work which demolishes that link:

- '3D Imagery Demonstrates the Auschwitz Hole Hoax '
by Eric Hunt
http://codoh.com/library/document/3920/

- 'Treblinka Archaeology Hoax'
by Eric Hunt
http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/trebli ... 20x406.mp4

- 'The Jewish Gas Chamber Hoax'
by Eric Hunt
http://codoh.com/library/document/3252/

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