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Questions about gassings in general!

Postby Wagner » 4 years 1 week ago (Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:00 pm)

Hello there everyone!
Totally new to this forum but I've been observing for awhile. Read couple of books by the revisionists. Books like "Giant with a feet of clay" or "Lectures on the holocaust" by Rudolph etc. and I also personally have visited the United States Holocaust Museum located in Washington D.C. and I've seen the gas chamber door which was posted there for exhibition, honestly not the type of door i was expecting. The door was not engineered properly for gassings (the door would've had poor vacuum technology etc).

I am trying to find a middle ground between revisionists and exterminatioists and i have some questions my dear friends.

Were there any gassings taking place in National Socialist Germany at all (whether its Auschwitz or some other concentration camp) ?
If so, how was it taking place?
What was used for gassings? Was it the traditional Zyklon B or something else?
Is there any documentary (in example written) or any material evidence of gassings?
And also why the victims were gassed? Is it because they were Jews (it's hard to believe it of coarse because there were jews in Hitler's army as far as I am aware of, Also Hitler was a cofounder of Israel) perhaps political reasons in example. Marxist/Communist?

Explain please
Thank you.
-Wagner

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Re: Questions about gassings in general!

Postby Hannover » 4 years 1 week ago (Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:16 pm)

Wagner wrote:Hello there everyone!
Totally new to this forum but I've been observing for awhile. Read couple of books by the revisionists. Books like "Giant with a feet of clay" or "Lectures on the holocaust" by Rudolph etc. and I also personally have visited the United States Holocaust Museum located in Washington D.C. and I've seen the gas chamber door which was posted there for exhibition, honestly not the type of door i was expecting. The door was not engineered properly for gassings (the door would've had poor vacuum technology etc).

I am trying to find a middle ground between revisionists and exterminatioists and i have some questions my dear friends.

1.Were there any gassings taking place in National Socialist Germany at all (whether its Auschwitz or some other concentration camp) ?
2.If so, how was it taking place?
3.What was used for gassings? Was it the traditional Zyklon B or something else?
4.Is there any documentary (in example written) or any material evidence of gassings?
5.And also why the victims were gassed? Is it because they were Jews (it's hard to believe it of coarse because there were jews in Hitler's army as far as I am aware of, Also Hitler was a cofounder of Israel) perhaps political reasons in example. Marxist/Communist?

Explain please
Thank you.
-Wagner

Here is a demolition of the 'gas chamber door' fraud:

'photo: Auschwitz 'gas chamber door' / another easy debunked lie.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10160

brief replies:

1. None, anywhere.

2. The claimed process is scientifically impossible as demonstrated repeatedly at this forum.
Among many other links, see my summary of the alleged gassing steps here:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10798&p=80969&hilit=hannover+asmarques#p80969

3. Zyklon-B (a pesticide - cyanide embedded in a granular substance) is alleged as well as alleged mass gassings with carbon monoxide via diesel engines, which has been changed somewhat to gasoline engines. There are also absurd claims of 'gas vans' mass murders via a tube from the exhaust into the rear of the van.

4. None. A lot of false claims and forgeries have been exposed by Revisionists.

5. None were gassed.

Per the guidelines, it would be best to start separate threads on each of these points. Then we can get into some details if you wish.

Welcome, maestro Wagner, Hannover

Look for the US Zionists in control to pass anti free speech laws which will ban scrutiny and free speech of the impossible 'holocaust' storyline, like has been done is much of 'democratic' Europe.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: Questions about gassings in general!

Postby Wagner » 4 years 1 week ago (Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:19 pm)

Hannover wrote:
Wagner wrote:Hello there everyone!
Totally new to this forum but I've been observing for awhile. Read couple of books by the revisionists. Books like "Giant with a feet of clay" or "Lectures on the holocaust" by Rudolph etc. and I also personally have visited the United States Holocaust Museum located in Washington D.C. and I've seen the gas chamber door which was posted there for exhibition, honestly not the type of door i was expecting. The door was not engineered properly for gassings (the door would've had poor vacuum technology etc).

I am trying to find a middle ground between revisionists and exterminatioists and i have some questions my dear friends.

1.Were there any gassings taking place in National Socialist Germany at all (whether its Auschwitz or some other concentration camp) ?
2.If so, how was it taking place?
3.What was used for gassings? Was it the traditional Zyklon B or something else?
4.Is there any documentary (in example written) or any material evidence of gassings?
5.And also why the victims were gassed? Is it because they were Jews (it's hard to believe it of coarse because there were jews in Hitler's army as far as I am aware of, Also Hitler was a cofounder of Israel) perhaps political reasons in example. Marxist/Communist?

Explain please
Thank you.
-Wagner

Here is a demolition of the 'gas chamber door' fraud:

'photo: Auschwitz 'gas chamber door' / another easy debunked lie.
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10160

brief replies:

1. None, anywhere.

2. The claimed process is scientifically impossible as demonstrated repeatedly at this forum.
Among many other links, see my summary of the alleged gassing steps here:
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... ues#p80969

3. Zyklon-B (a pesticide - cyanide embedded in a granular substance) is alleged as well as alleged mass gassings with carbon monoxide via diesel engines, which has been changed somewhat to gasoline engines. There are also absurd claims of 'gas vans' mass murders via a tube from the exhaust into the rear of the van.

4. None. A lot of false claims and forgeries have been exposed by Revisionists.

5. None were gassed.

Per the guidelines, it would be best to start separate threads on each of these points. Then we can get into some details if you wish.

Welcome, maestro Wagner, Hannover

Look for the US Zionists in control to pass anti free speech laws which will ban scrutiny and free speech of the impossible 'holocaust' storyline, like has been done is much of 'democratic' Europe.



I appreciate your brief response Herr Hannover and one more thing is it possible perhaps to built a small replica of a an alleged gas chamber proposed by the mainstream exterminastionists and just for the sake of an experiment have rats or mice (Only if its legal of coarse) in there and then pour down the actual Zyklon B (or something similar) pellets down the chimney and see if it actually would work to harm the mice?

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Re: Questions about gassings in general!

Postby flimflam » 4 years 1 week ago (Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:14 pm)

There are two points regarding gassing in the camps,

#1 - the idea is preposterous to begin with and there is not a shred of physical evidence for it,

which has been covered, and the other

#2 - the Nazis aggressively investigated crime in the camps.

Konrad Morgen was a German judge who joined the SS and was assigned the task of investigating crimes in the concentration camps. His tenacity in pursuing the course of justice earned him the nickname 'the bloodhound judge'. Following reports of irregularities at Buchenwald he sent a team of investigators to the camp. They spent several months in the camp investigating charges by interviewing guards and prisoners. As a result the camp commandant, Karl Koch, was tried for having two prisoners killed. He was convicted and hanged. In two years, Morgen directed more than 800 investigations into crimes in the camps. You can google more info on Konrad Morgen and his activities during the war.

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Re: Questions about gassings in general!

Postby Wagner » 4 years 1 week ago (Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:09 pm)

flimflam wrote:There are two points regarding gassing in the camps,

#1 - the idea is preposterous to begin with and there is not a shred of physical evidence for it,

which has been covered, and the other

#2 - the Nazis aggressively investigated crime in the camps.

Konrad Morgen was a German judge who joined the SS and was assigned the task of investigating crimes in the concentration camps. His tenacity in pursuing the course of justice earned him the nickname 'the bloodhound judge'. Following reports of irregularities at Buchenwald he sent a team of investigators to the camp. They spent several months in the camp investigating charges by interviewing guards and prisoners. As a result the camp commandant, Karl Koch, was tried for having two prisoners killed. He was convicted and hanged. In two years, Morgen directed more than 800 investigations into crimes in the camps. You can google more info on Konrad Morgen and his activities during the war.



Any unbiased books you would suggest perhaps on Konrad Morgen?

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Re: Questions about gassings in general!

Postby hermod » 4 years 1 week ago (Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:51 pm)

Hello, Wagner. There were gassings at very numerous locations in National Socialist Germany and German-occupied Europe during WW2. The victims of such gassings were lice and they were gassed because they carried and spread typhus.

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If memory serves me right, some revisionists (not including myself) believe that a homicidal gas chamber was built and used once at Struthof-Natzweiller (in today's France) for a collection of bones.

About Hitler as an alleged cofounder of Israel, it is a wacky theory coming as an unsurprising consequence of a Globalist-Zionist-owned Reductio ad Hitlerum world in which anything deemed evil must have been done by Hitler. Today, one can hardly demonize anything without linking it with Hitler. No surprise a number of anti-Zionists claim that Hitler cofounded Israel. Claiming Hitler cofounded Israel amounts to stating the Devil (the Hitler of past Christian societies) cofounded the Church while the founders of Christianity rather created the Devil in order to justify the utility of their religion and its grip on various countries. Hitler didn't request that the Soviet-Allied compulsive liars spread all kinds of extravagant stories about him making the establishment of the state of Israel inescapable after the end of WW2. Just as the fictitious Devil did not, of course, request that the founders of some religions invent and use him in order to justify the alleged need for their legends and power structures. There are even documents showing that Hitler had planned to disband and dissolve the pre-Israeli Jewish colony in Palestine after the war. Strange behavior for the alleged cofounder of a state, isn't it?
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Re: Questions about gassings in general!

Postby Wagner » 4 years 1 week ago (Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:27 pm)

hermod wrote:Hello, Wagner. There were gassings at very numerous locations in National Socialist Germany and German-occupied Europe during WW2. The victims of such gassings were lice and they were gassed because they carried and spread typhus.

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-O4404YbjKNk/T ... +-+p.7.jpg

If memory serves me right, some revisionists (not including myself) believe that a homicidal gas chamber was built and used once at Struthof-Natzweiller (in today's France) for a collection of bones.

About Hitler as an alleged cofounder of Israel, it is an unsurprising consequence of a Globalist-Zionist-owned Reductio ad Hitlerum world in which anything deemed evil must have been done by Hitler. Claiming Hitler cofounded Israel amounts to stating the Devil (the Hitler of past Christian societies) cofounded the Church while the founders of Christianity rather created the Devil in order to justify the utility of their religion and its grip on various countries. Hitler didn't request that the Soviet-Allied compulsive liars spread all kinds of extravagant stories about him making the establishment of the state of Israel inescapable after the end of WW2. Just as the fictitious Devil did not, of course, request that founders of some religions invent and use him in order to justify the alleged need for their legends and power structures. There are even documents showing that Hitler had planned to disband and dissolve the pre-Israeli Jewish colony in Palestine after the war.



Thank you very informative stuff regarding gassings.

But Zionists and Hitler did in some way collaborate, right? And of coarse the reason why i said "cofounded" is not because I think of Hitler as an ultimate evil or an ultimate good guy. I think Hitler is just a man who had his strengths and weaknesses just like every individual. Painting him as an ultimate EVIL or a Saint is a logical fallacy.

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Re: Questions about gassings in general!

Postby Moderator » 4 years 1 week ago (Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:12 pm)

Wagner:
Please, separate threads for separate topics.
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Re: Questions about gassings in general!

Postby Wagner » 4 years 1 week ago (Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:40 pm)

Moderator wrote:Wagner:
Please, separate threads for separate topics.
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Ok, My apologies. :roll:

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Re: Questions about gassings in general!

Postby hermod » 4 years 1 week ago (Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:54 pm)

Wagner wrote:But Zionists and Hitler did in some way collaborate, right?


Zionists collaborated with numerous persons and regimes. Britain and the United States did much more for the establishment of the state of Israel than Hitler and his Transfer Agreement did. Good to know that the Zionists of that time also worked very hard to lead Hitler to the conclusion that all the Jews in the Reich had to be expelled as fast as possible. No coincidence that the worldwide boycott on German goods was led by prominent Zionists, e.g. rabbi Stephen Wise (the founder of political Zionism in the U.S.) and Samuel Untermyer (president of the Keren Hayesod) in the United States. The Zionist use of anti-Semites was planned by Theodor Herzl and applied by himself and his heirs.

More discussion about this in another thread if you wish...
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Re: Questions about gassings in general!

Postby borjastick » 4 years 1 week ago (Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:49 am)

Wagner, welcome to the truth.

There are many good books that cover the subject from different angles and objectives. In regards to the establishment of israel vis a vis Germany pre-war and the role of the zionists in that country etc I would recommend 'The Founding Myths Of Modern Israel' by Roger Garoudy. The front cover headline on my edition says 'The book that scandalized Europe and thrilled the Islamic world brings America the shocking truth on Zionism and the holocaust'.

It exposes the zionists for what they were/are and how they too thought that jewish blood was very well worth expending in Europe to ensure a zionist state. Well worth the money.
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Re: Questions about gassings in general!

Postby Hannover » 4 years 1 week ago (Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:53 am)

also see:
Holocaust Handbooks & Documentaries
http://holocausthandbooks.com
and:
http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

- H.
"Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the "survivors"? Because it "dishonors the dead"? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

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Re: Questions about gassings in general!

Postby Wagner » 4 years 1 week ago (Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:00 am)

hermod wrote:
Wagner wrote:But Zionists and Hitler did in some way collaborate, right?


Zionists collaborated with numerous persons and regimes. Britain and the United States did much more for the establishment of the state of Israel than Hitler and his Transfer Agreement did. Good to know that the Zionists of that time also worked very hard to lead Hitler to the conclusion that all the Jews in the Reich had to be expelled as fast as possible. No coincidence that the worldwide boycott on German goods was led by prominent Zionists, e.g. rabbi Stephen Wise (the founder of political Zionism in the U.S.) and Samuel Untermyer (president of the Keren Hayesod) in the United States. The Zionist use of anti-Semites was planned by Theodor Herzl and applied by himself and his heirs.

More discussion about this in another thread if you wish...


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Re: Questions about gassings in general!

Postby Hektor » 4 years 1 week ago (Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:05 pm)

hermod wrote:Hello, Wagner. There were gassings at very numerous locations in National Socialist Germany and German-occupied Europe during WW2. The victims of such gassings were lice and they were gassed because they carried and spread typhus.

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I....

The delousing of clothing using gas chambers (and Zyklon B) is most certainly one of the pretexts from reality that lead to the homicidal gassing rumors. And ignorance of the lice problem and how it was dealt with is certainly conducive to make the Holocaust believable to a large number of people.

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Re: Questions about gassings in general!

Postby hermod » 4 years 6 days ago (Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:22 pm)

Hektor wrote:The delousing of clothing using gas chambers (and Zyklon B) is most certainly one of the pretexts from reality that lead to the homicidal gassing rumors.


During WW1, the Austrians and the Bulgarians were accused of mass murdering, with the help of their German allies, hundreds of thousands of Serbian civilians in gas chambers. IMO, the Allied propagandists of WW2 would have accused the Germans of mass murdering numerous people in gas chambers even if there had been no delousing gas chambers in the German concentration camps. Imaginative propagandists don't need palpable stuff to coin good horror tales.

And ignorance of the lice problem and how it was dealt with is certainly conducive to make the Holocaust believable to a large number of people.


True. The lice problem itself also gave credence to the Holohoax. Immensely. What would the 'Holocaust' be without the pics of the typhus victims found in the last operational German concentration camps in the spring of 1945?
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