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I am the one who put up posters in Calgary

Postby youngandcurious » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:08 pm)

Hello there,

I hope this is the right place to post this, if not please direct me to where else I might discuss this. In short, I am the one who put up the "anti-semitic" posters questioning the Holocaust at the University of Calgary earlier this February, an event which was hysterically covered in the Calgary Sun, the CBC, the Calgary Herald, Global News, the Gauntlet, as well as other Jewish publications.
http://www.calgarysun.com/2017/02/22/an ... ary-campus
http://globalnews.ca/news/3266516/unive ... st-denial/
http://www.thegauntlet.ca/posters-quest ... -c-campus/

As a young person and a student, I believe in free speech, as well as academic freedom, and believe that the significance of the Holocaust and WW2 in the modern mind necessitates that we approach the subject with greater scrutiny, not less, as it is only through honest and open dialogue and inquiry that we will be able to come to the truth. I come to you all with a certain amount of fear, as I was putting up a second "wave" of posters on campus, this time during the day, and was apprehended by campus security, who asked for identification, took down my information (and my poster), but otherwise let me go unmolested. I am not afraid of other people, or their words, but I am concerned about the potential for violence if I were to be doxxed, and am also concerned about my future prospects as a student at the university. Given that many of you may have been in a situation similar to mine, I would like to ask the forum members for some advice about what to do now, considering that the campus police have all my information (as I did not feel that I had anything to hide), and mindful of the angry backlash that has poured out from Jewish organizations, as well as students on campus.

I would also like to say that I am especially grateful to David Merlin, who penned a thoughtful rebuttal to the Gauntlet (a student publication http://codoh.com/library/document/4243/?lang=en , as well as the University of Calgary's balanced response in line with the university code of conduct.

Thanks



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Re: I am the one who put up posters in Calgary

Postby borjastick » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:53 am)

Well done you. You've obviously got balls of steel and a strong sense of right and justice.

My advice would be to keep your head down from now on and do not rock the boat. Keep your mouth shut among friends and colleagues and never brag about what you did, even in the future. Trust no one.
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'

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Re: I am the one who put up posters in Calgary

Postby youngandcurious » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:10 am)

Thank you @borjastick I appreciate it.

And do you really think I shouldn't do anything else? I feel conflicted; it pains me to be on a campus with such a rigid and fixed dogma (and the echo-chamber must be pierced eventually) but at the same time I don't want to make myself a martyr

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Re: I am the one who put up posters in Calgary

Postby Jurgen » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:21 am)

I agree with the "trust no one" comment.

People are so indoctrinated that they will never understand that we are happy that 6 million Jews did not die in a Nazi final solution. Though in saying that, I am coming across more and more people who are openly expressing their suspicion that it is all lies.

Perhaps instead of attacking the holocaust narrative, you could use this to investigate taboo topics and the stifling of freedom of expression, freedom of speech, freedom of discussion etc

Article 19 of the Human Rights Commission states:
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

http://www.claiminghumanrights.org/udhr_article_19.html#at20

It seems to me that you have had those rights infringed upon.

And yeah...balls...big balls.

Respect!
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Re: I am the one who put up posters in Calgary

Postby borjastick » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:39 am)

youngandcurious wrote:Thank you @borjastick I appreciate it.

And do you really think I shouldn't do anything else? I feel conflicted; it pains me to be on a campus with such a rigid and fixed dogma (and the echo-chamber must be pierced eventually) but at the same time I don't want to make myself a martyr


If you are at Uni you're probably about 20 yrs of age and thus perhaps thinking you can change the world. I am nearly 60 and have all that experience of life and cynicism as well, sad but true.

My personal advice is to lie low, keep your powder dry and don't risk physical or legal conflict with these lunatics from the holocaust promoters. They are evil and can be very very nasty. The holocaust is everything to them, everything springs from it;the establishment and maintenance of israel, the continued political power base, and of course billions of $$$$ every year.

Just remember how they have ruined the lives of many a good revisionist.

Don't try to be a hero, you've made a good start and well done for doing so but look at the comments below the news article you posted. These people don't see you as someone who has righted a wrong by exposing wonderful news that 6m jews didn't die. No they want to persecute you for daring to question the myth of six million being mass murdered by the Germans.
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Re: I am the one who put up posters in Calgary

Postby hermod » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:16 pm)

If you plan to keep putting up your posters anyway, you could at least print your new posters with someone else's printer, so that the local police in your area won't be able to link you physically to this 'crime.' Perhaps you could even get rid of your current printer, so that nobody will be able to link you to the posters you've already put up so far. (Except perhaps with your fingerprints.) If things get too hot for you in the future, you'll be at least able to minimize your own involvement and say "A guy I didn't know once asked me to help him put up some posters and I just said 'Yes,' but I hadn't realized they were anti-Semitic posters." Might be useful in the future. Who knows?
"But, however the world pretends to divide itself, there are ony two divisions in the world to-day - human beings and Germans. – Rudyard Kipling, The Morning Post (London), June 22, 1915

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Re: I am the one who put up posters in Calgary

Postby Hektor » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:39 pm)

borjastick wrote:Well done you. You've obviously got balls of steel and a strong sense of right and justice.

My advice would be to keep your head down from now on and do not rock the boat. Keep your mouth shut among friends and colleagues and never brag about what you did, even in the future. Trust no one.


Could you post photos of those posters? I didn't see it in the article. And I want first hand information anyway.

I'm with borjarstick on this one, avoid risk, if you can, just don't let them shut you up neither. For now I think one needs to assess what the effect of your guerrilla Marketing was. How did students and staff respond to that? Obviously the official side will condemn it and profess their strong faith in the Holocaust. But what went on "underground"? Were there any changes in how and what students think about the subject?!

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Re: I am the one who put up posters in Calgary

Postby youngandcurious » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:25 pm)

Hi Hektor,
http://www.thegauntlet.ca/posters-quest ... -c-campus/ this article has the correct picture of the first set of posters if you scroll partway down the page, and the attached file is the one I was putting up when campus police came and talked to me. I also took the liberty of underlining the particularly incriminating statements by Yehuda Bauer, where he is quoted as saying (to Wiesenthal): "Simon, you are telling a lie".

It's interesting that you ask that Hektor, and while I don't want to potentially doxx myself, I know there were students that were at least curious, given the intense backlash to a simple piece of paper, and the fact that it was a properly sourced, very recent article put out by a Jewish organization, quoting Jewish historians about how people have wrong ideas about the events of WW2. Most students however I think prefer to let someone else do their thinking for them, which is too bad really.
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Re: I am the one who put up posters in Calgary

Postby diaz52 » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:35 pm)

If you never do another thing, you've done more than most. So I would agree that for now you should keep your head down, get your degree and let things settle down. I commend your efforts though. Well done!
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Re: I am the one who put up posters in Calgary

Postby Jurgen » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:55 pm)

Another was to approach it could be from the standpoint of a believer. Don't deny it. Don't even question that it happened, but ask questions.

For example, according to Arad, Treblinka was not a transit camp, but an extermination facility. People got off the train and were trotted into the gas chamber then are there. And yet the Spielberg recordings have hundreds of people who were transited through Treblinka. They got off the train, were disinfected, got new clothes and were sent off to another camp.

So how come, if Treblinka was an extermination camp are there all these testimonials from people who say they were transited through there? What does this mean? Why the discrepancy?

There would be thousands of other questions you could ask.

How come there are hundreds of references to Six Millions Jews suffering and being exterminated going all the way back to the mid 1800's?
etc etc etc
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Re: I am the one who put up posters in Calgary

Postby Hannover » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:14 pm)

Well done, y & c.

I disagree with some of the others here, I say do it again, but perhaps using stickers instead, see:
CODOH Flyers
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9984

No need to interact with anyone while doing it, just discreetly place them & move along to the next stop.

The idea is publicity, the more the cause gets, the better. Let those who are protecting a historical lie do the publicizing by writing very obvious anti free speech articles.

Also, search flyers here, you're not alone.

"Truth is hate to those who hate the truth"

Regards, Hannover

Dare to examine the absurd & laughable 'holocaust' storyline rationally, logically, scientifically and it falls apart like the house-of-cards that it is.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: I am the one who put up posters in Calgary

Postby flimflam » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:11 pm)

You have done an extraordinary thing ! Congratulations.

But, we live in incredibly strange times, when brave and proud men and women, in the land of the free, tremble in their homes and are afraid to speak the truth about a hoax that has brought the world to the brink of destruction. Already millions have died as a result of the hoax, killed by the endless US military operations in the middle east in support of Israel that have turned the region into a killing field, and now with Russian involvement there is a real potential that things can get much worse.

That said, personally, I think you should lay low.

I think there should be an organization that is dedicated to exposing the hoax. I think posters on college campuses is a great idea. I think picketing the USHMM and other hoax museums is a great idea. I think picketing hoax events, speeches, etc., is a great idea. The organization could hire people to put up posters, to picket hoax museums, and hoax events.

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Re: I am the one who put up posters in Calgary

Postby Charles Traynor » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:34 pm)

Hello youngandcurious, if you actually are the individual who put up those posters at the University of Calgary, I salute you. Like most of the others here, I advise you to lay low and finish your education before getting involved in this type of lone wolf activism again. If, however, you choose to strike out against the forces of darkness and ignorance again, I would advise against the use of stickers. The campus cops will bust you for vandalism as well as thought crimes.

Btw, as far as I am aware David Cole and Mark Weber are backsliders who now believe in a form of limited gassings holohoax lite. You might want to bear this in mind if you create new posters.
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Re: I am the one who put up posters in Calgary

Postby Hannover » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:21 pm)

Charles Traynor wrote:Hello youngandcurious, if you actually are the individual who put up those posters at the University of Calgary, I salute you. Like most of the others here, I advise you to lay low and finish your education before getting involved in this type of lone wolf activism again. If, however, you choose to strike out against the forces of darkness and ignorance again, I would advise against the use of stickers. The campus cops will bust you for vandalism as well as thought crimes.

First they have to catch him, if he is calm & smooth enough that will not happen, and second, all he has to do if caught is point to the numerous other stickers that are certainly everywhere on campus and demand they also be prosecuted for 'vandalism'.
Small stickers strategically placed by vending machines, doorways, etc. will be seen and can't just be picked up and trashed so easily.

No retreat.

- H.

The 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

The tide is turning.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: I am the one who put up posters in Calgary

Postby youngandcurious » 3 months 3 weeks ago (Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:29 pm)

Hi Charles,

Thank you for your input. While I am still attempting to form my own thoughts about the so-called gassing of six million Jews, I included David Cole and Mark Weber somewhat deliberately (I seem to recall being vaguely aware that they had 'recanted') because I'm not interested in defending a particular position (Germans dindu nuffin, worldwide Jewish conspiracy etc.) I'm just interested in the truth. If the facts exonerate the Germans, then so be it. If the facts support a genocidal gassing campaign, so be it. I just want truth, and promoting open discussion seems to be the only way to do so.

Hannover, I regret to inform you that the campus police already have my name and information (I thought I had mentioned this earlier in the thread, if not, my apologies) so I'm somewhat anxiously waiting to see if they will take action, whether they will turn my name over to the Jewish community, the university administration etc., or just leave me alone. They seemed polite when they took my posters down, but I'm hoping that will be the extent of it.


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