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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 5 years ago (Sat Jun 05, 2004 7:27 pm)

The specifics are obvious. By stating that he was tortured and that he would have signed/said anything, he effectively recanted all that he 'confessed' to, and refuted all the charges against him.

I can just see it now in a real court of law when the accused states: 'They tortured me to get a confession', and the prosecutor asks: 'But what do you recant'?

Say what? The rather obvious answer is all that the accused 'confessed' to. Duh!

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Postby David » 1 decade 5 years ago (Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:37 am)

Wouldn't Hoess be more likely to take his chances with torture than admit to gassing jews which would bring definite death sentence?
Therefore shouldn't this give us reason to be skeptical of Weber's source that has Hoess saying his testimony is false?
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Postby disillusioned » 1 decade 5 years ago (Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:57 pm)

David:

The human mind is not that rational. People can and do break pretty easy under enough stress. Physical or otherwise.

Think about all the people that confessed to making pacts with Satan way back when. How many of them actually made pacts with Satan? None. Because satan is a mythological character. He does not exist.

Those people would have admitted to anything to stop the torture. Many were burned alive as a result of their confessions. Surely they could have endured further torture right? Nope. Many people would rather die than go on under that kind of stress. At least in their mind they stop caring if death will be their punishment if they just admit to whatever the torturers are looking for.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 5 years ago (Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:34 pm)

Yeah, it's amazing that someone can agree that an accused man was tortured, his torturers admit it, the accused states it, and then somehow that someone says 'well, it doesn't matter'.

Yikes! What the hell would they torture him for but to get him to say what they want?

In a legitimate court of law this man is freed. Such was Nuremberg, such were the show trials after the war. Such is the so called 'holocau$t'.

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Postby Trojan » 1 decade 5 years ago (Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:19 pm)

So when Hoes says he was tortured he was telling the truth, then when he says that he is being humanly treated he is lying?

If he was lying about the treatment, why would his captives allow him to tell the tale of the torture?

If he was humanly treated and gave affidavits during this time, are the affidavits lies as well? Then how can we believe anything he writes?

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Postby Sailor » 1 decade 5 years ago (Mon Jun 21, 2004 5:51 pm)

Trojan wrote:So when Hoes says he was tortured he was telling the truth, then when he says that he is being humanly treated he is lying?
Höß testified in an affidavit that under his direction 2½ million Jews were killed. But we know today that only about 1 million Jews were ever deported to Auschwitz. In my opinion the man could not have told the truth.
If he was lying about the treatment, why would his captives allow him to tell the tale of the torture?
I don't know. Could this have had something to do with the beginning of the cold war?
If he was humanly treated and gave affidavits during this time, are the affidavits lies as well? Then how can we believe anything he writes?
I don't think that the man was treated humanely and that we can believe anything he wrote. The man was cross examined and tried by the communists, whose Moscow show trials in the mid thirties with all the confessions they got out of the accused are well known all over the world.

Try to google "show trials". You may be amazed.

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