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Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania

Postby Hannover » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:04 am)

The Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim this patch of dirt holds the remains of 70,000 Jews & 30,000 others at Ponar, Lithuania.

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"Mass Grave in Ponar, Lithuania"

also:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... _Ponar.JPG

Mathis & Muehlenkamp, 'holocau$t' Industry spokesmen, support the claim that an estimated 100,000 people, including 70,000 Jews, died at Ponar, and the above little playground is where those alleged 100,000 people are supposedly buried.

Right there, all squeezed into a space barely large enough to play a game marbles in. :lol:

So why don't the Zionists simply dig it up and show us?
Because there's nothing there.

Two guys with shovels, as Tom Moran always used to say, could solve the entire matter.

And BTW, here's the Los Angeles Coliseum, it holds 'only 90,000'. :lol:
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Challenge to Mathis & Muehlenkamp, who always falter under pressure, but hey, let's give it a shot:
Show us a verifiable excavation and the alleged humans remains at this site.


For more on yet another fake 'holocaust' site, Ponar, the icing on the cake is here:
'Escape Tunnel, Dug by Hand, Is Found at Holocaust Massacre Site' / Ponar
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10469

In fact Andrew Mathis even did a podcast about this laughable, impossible Ponar tunnel, link here:
http://bilby.healthgurumedia.com/podcasts/Nazi

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The 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

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Re: Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania

Postby Rmbrmb21 » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sun Sep 03, 2017 6:35 am)

Don't be so critical, maybe that pit reaches the center of the earth. It would fit right in with most of the other holocaust lore

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Re: Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania

Postby Dresden » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:22 pm)

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"Mass Grave in Ponar, Lithuania"

Are you sure that's Lithuania and not Lilliput?

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Re: Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania

Postby Hannover » 1 month 1 week ago (Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:26 pm)

At another site I see that Roberto has posted some photos of what he considers to be proof of the 100,000 allegedly murdered at Ponar.
Here are examples with comments that were made about them:
On one hand Roberto and the "Holocau$t Industry" say that the German made all the alleged Jew remains magically disappear, then they turn around and present faked photos of alleged remains they previously claimed were disappeared. :lol:
But then that's what happens when they try to defend the impossible. :lol:

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.”


Classic Roberto's use of faked & remarked communist / Zionist propaganda photos of who knows where? who knows when? by who knows who?, and some are just piles of clothing that they hope will go unnoticed. :lol:

Then compare the fake sites in those dodgy 'photos' below to the alleged Ponary mass grave for 100,000, here:

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Completely different sites.

See much more at:
Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11

But hey, this is all that Roberto can conjure.

ex.:
pile of clothing here: :lol:

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open field here, not Ponar: :lol:

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laughable cut & paste of various pieces here, none with provenance :lol:

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apparent fire victims from somewhere, not Ponar :lol:

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no bodies, just clothing :lol:

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"mass grave" with nothing in it :lol: :lol:

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So there you go. Complete BS from Roberto and his Zionist comrades as usual.

See what a real excavation looks like here:
Katyn facts: 'Amtliches Material zum Massenmord von Katyn'
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=758

And what crap does Roberto throw on the wall in the hope its will stick?
Easily debunked fakes, that's what.

Well, did you see the alleged 100,000 corpses ... "70,000 Jews", & alleged "30,00' others"?
If not, you are 'antisemitic'. :roll:

Those who have invested so much of themselves in this scam will resort to anything in trying to fool the public.
Truth is irrelevant to them.
The money made, the money being made is enormous. Their delusions of supremacy give them a sense of entitlement to do whatever is in their best interests, regardless of who it hurts.

The public is awakening. The tide is turning.

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We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania

Postby borjastick » 1 month 1 week ago (Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:32 am)

Yes I see different pictures taken at different locations at different times, and a maximum of about twenty corpses in each. Hmm 99900 to go then Roberto...

Apart from that it's a winner.
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'

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Re: Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania

Postby Hannover » 1 month 1 week ago (Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:45 pm)

More bizarre photos from paid Zionist propagandist, Roberto Muehlenkamp.
More examples of: 'Trust us, we're Zionists' fakes.

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Notice that the surroundings do not resemble the alleged mass burial site, see OP.

So why are these 'victims of Germans' not buried, hidden from view, made to disappear?

The Zionist lie about Ponar is that 100,000 were dumped into a mass gave. That's 100,000 !

The laughable & impossible 'holocau$t' storyline claims that the Germans hid / magically disappeared all the corpses.
But yet panic stricken Roberto produces picture which contradict the very story line he tries to promote. :lol:

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Israel's Yad Vashem says:
Title Ponary, Poland, Lithuanian militiamen leading Jews to the murder site in the forest, 1941.
This photograph was taken in July 1941 by Otto Schroff, a member of the 96th Infantry Division of the Wehrmacht, who witnessed the killing of around 400 Jews at Paneriai on three consecutive days.

But the storyline says that 'exterminations' were top secret operations, no records allowed; but now we're told that countless Germans simply disobeyed orders and took photos galore. :lol:

How do we know they were killed?
How do we know they were Jews?
So where are these additional 400 corpses? They claim to know the exact site.

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Another alleged mass grave at Ponar.
Simple, two guys with shovels could solve the entire matter. But nope, no digging allowed there.

Roberto has not and cannot show us any actual excavations at Ponar, not one. He cannot show us 100,000 corpses that are alleged to be there.
Roberto cannot show us an official, verifiable forensic report on any excavation at Ponar, but he does show corpses which contradict the impossible 'holocau$t' narrative

The corpses he does show are laughably labeled by Zionists / Communists to mean whatever they want, with no proof that they are Jews, no proof that they are from WWII, no proof that the Germans are responsible, all of which are easily seen to be from sites which do not even resemble Ponar.

This is too easy.

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Trust me, I have a garage.'
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania

Postby Hannover » 2 weeks 1 day ago (Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:56 pm)

As expected Andrew Mathis* has dodged this thread.
Obviously he knows he's beat and doesn't want to risk being embarrassed again at this forum.

And Mathis & Muehlenkamp are the best that the "Holocau$t Industry" can muster. :lol:

More to come.

- Hannover

The Internet is demolishing the false narrative promoted by arrogant Jewish supremacists. From the slaughter of the Palestinians to the lies of Auschwitz & the impossible '6M', the world is recognizing the dangers of Jewish supremacism.
The tide is turning.


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CODOH routs unhinged Zionist, Andrew Mathis.

Anyone can simply look at the threads here where Andrew Mathis, aka: Thames Darwin has posted, some examples of the beat down:

Alleged & laughable "mass graves" according to T. Darwin / Andrew Mathis
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9414

'Andrew Mathis on Dachau, Majdanek, Auschwitz, Treblinka'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9228

Mathis who also posts as 'Thames Darwin', gets shot down:
Anecdotal evidence & "holocaust survivors"
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9238

holocaust' denial article by Andrew Mathis debunked here'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2816

'Prof. Mc Nally dissects HHP's Andrew Mathis' bogus article'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=284

'Holo. Hist. Proj.'s Andrew Mathis on Zyklon scent removal'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2499

'Green, Mathis refuted / cyanide: lice, humans, & more'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=267

'Believer org. spokesman, Andrew Mathis, demolished in debate'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=254

'Holo. Hist. Proj.'s Andrew Mathis attempts damage control'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2498

'Email from Andrew Mathis (The Holocaust History Project)'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1526

'holocaust' History Project to unveil section on Treblinka'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=280
and:
Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11345
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania

Postby donron » 2 weeks 4 hours ago (Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:00 pm)

Are these the only two photos of alleged mass graves at Ponar that Mathis & Muehlenkamp have proffered?

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Where are the photos of the other 4 alleged "mass graves"?

Are there any maps showing these "mass graves"?

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Re: Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania

Postby donron » 1 week 4 days ago (Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:23 am)

FYI - the other so-called "mass graves" at Ponar can be seen here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=ponar+photos&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRrKnyqOHWAhUB6oMKHVU_ApYQsAQIJQ&biw=1280&bih=955

Please note the photos of the fraudulent archaeologist Richard Freund conducting GPR scans of the alleged "mass graves."

Evidently, NOVA did a program on Ponar:

https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-04-19/science-confirms-incredible-story-lithuanias-holocaust-escape-tunnel

Video showing the fraudulent "archaeological investigation" of Ponar can be seen in the above link as well.

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Re: Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania

Postby Moderator » 1 week 4 days ago (Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:45 am)

donron wrote:FYI - the other so-called "mass graves" at Ponar can be seen here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=ponar+photos&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRrKnyqOHWAhUB6oMKHVU_ApYQsAQIJQ&biw=1280&bih=955

Please note the photos of the fraudulent archaeologist Richard Freund conducting GPR scans of the alleged "mass graves."

Evidently, NOVA did a program on Ponar:

https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-04-19/science-confirms-incredible-story-lithuanias-holocaust-escape-tunnel

Video showing the fraudulent "archaeological investigation" of Ponar can be seen in the above link as well.

Please tell this forum what specifically is fraudulent about the investigation.

Thanks, M1 :)
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Re: Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania

Postby gandalfssocks » 1 week 4 days ago (Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:59 am)

donron wrote:FYI - the other so-called "mass graves" at Ponar can be seen here:

Evidently, NOVA did a program on Ponar:

https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-04-19/science-confirms-incredible-story-lithuanias-holocaust-escape-tunnel



An estimated 100,000 people, including 70,000 Jews, were murdered at Ponar. In 1944, when the Russians were about to retake Lithuania from the Nazis, the Germans recruited a group of 80 Jewish prisoners to exhume the bodies and burn them, in order to hide the evidence.

:roll: Shades of Jankiel Wiernik and the Katyn massacre.

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Re: Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania

Postby Hannover » 1 week 4 days ago (Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:23 pm)

donron wrote:FYI - the other so-called "mass graves" at Ponar can be seen here:

1. https://www.google.com/search?q=ponar+photos&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRrKnyqOHWAhUB6oMKHVU_ApYQsAQIJQ&biw=1280&bih=955

Please note the photos of the fraudulent archaeologist Richard Freund conducting GPR scans of the alleged "mass graves."

Evidently, NOVA did a program on Ponar:

2. https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-04-19/science-confirms-incredible-story-lithuanias-holocaust-escape-tunnel

Video showing the fraudulent "archaeological investigation" of Ponar can be seen in the above link as well.

1. We see nothing of the kind.
All we see is small patches of land and alleged corpses which could have been from anywhere, any date, any cause of death by anyone, with no proof they are from Ponar or any alleged 'holocaust' site. It's really that simple. Such claims would be crushed in a legit court of law.

2. "Science confirms" nothing here, in fact the pretentious article is damning to the fake narrative.

Here we have some guys digging a hole for any number of possible reasons without any proof that the location is even Ponar or that what they are even digging is a 'mass grave'. Laughable, but all too typical.
As if those supposedly involved would have allowed photography of actions which are said to have been massive war crimes and very top secret.
Clearly anyone can caption a photo anyway they like.*

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This gives the game away utterly:
1. Last year, an international group of archaeologists found the legendary escape tunnel. 2. They didn’t want to disturb any human remains at the burial pits, so instead of digging, the archaeologists used radar and radio waves to scan beneath the ground. 3. What they found dovetailed exactly with the survivors’ verbal accounts.

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1. No they didn't, otherwise they would have excavated. We're talking about an alleged huge crime here,

2, What? This is supposed to be detached science? Nonsense. They didn't excavate because they knew there was no massive human remains.
Try that BS in a real court,

"The "Holocau$t Industry" in court:
'Please your honor, there really are remains of millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, ... but, but, well, umm, we can't show the court. You must trust us, we're Zionists.' "


3. What we see is simply a soil anomaly of an isolated, single spot which gives no indication of being a lengthy "tunnel" ... that was supposedly dug with spoons. :lol:

* Anyone could caption this photo as "Nazi slave labor digs mass grave for Jews'.
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And that's why there are Thought Crime Laws that imprison those who engage in free speech about it.
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Re: Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania

Postby Elroy » 1 week 3 days ago (Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:27 am)

Hannover wrote:
donron wrote:FYI - the other so-called "mass graves" at Ponar can be seen here:

1. https://www.google.com/search?q=ponar+photos&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRrKnyqOHWAhUB6oMKHVU_ApYQsAQIJQ&biw=1280&bih=955

Please note the photos of the fraudulent archaeologist Richard Freund conducting GPR scans of the alleged "mass graves."

Evidently, NOVA did a program on Ponar:

2. https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-04-19/science-confirms-incredible-story-lithuanias-holocaust-escape-tunnel

Video showing the fraudulent "archaeological investigation" of Ponar can be seen in the above link as well.

1. We see nothing of the kind.
All we see is small patches of land and alleged corpses which could have been from anywhere, any date, any cause of death by anyone, with no proof they are from Ponar or any alleged 'holocaust' site. It's really that simple. Such claims would be crushed in a legit court of law.

2. "Science confirms" nothing here, in fact the pretentious article is damning to the fake narrative.

Here we have some guys digging a hole for any number of possible reasons without any proof that the location is even Ponar or that what they are even digging is a 'mass grave'. Laughable, but all too typical.
As if those supposedly involved would have allowed photography of actions which are said to have been massive war crimes and very top secret.
Clearly anyone can caption a photo anyway they like.*

Image

This gives the game away utterly:
1. Last year, an international group of archaeologists found the legendary escape tunnel. 2. They didn’t want to disturb any human remains at the burial pits, so instead of digging, the archaeologists used radar and radio waves to scan beneath the ground. 3. What they found dovetailed exactly with the survivors’ verbal accounts.

Image
1. No they didn't, otherwise they would have excavated. We're talking about an alleged huge crime here,

2, What? This is supposed to be detached science? Nonsense. They didn't excavate because they knew there was no massive human remains.
Try that BS in a real court,

"The "Holocau$t Industry" in court:
'Please your honor, there really are remains of millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, ... but, but, well, umm, we can't show the court. You must trust us, we're Zionists.' "


3. What we see is simply a soil anomaly of an isolated, single spot which gives no indication of being a lengthy "tunnel" ... that was supposedly dug with spoons. :lol:

* Anyone could caption this photo as "Nazi slave labor digs mass grave for Jews'.
Image
"Actually, it's "air raid precautions, 1940."

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Science, rational thought, & logic simply demolish the 'holocaust' storyline.
And that's why there are Thought Crime Laws that imprison those who engage in free speech about it.
Truth is hate to those that hate the truth.


Ha! Brilliant and well done.

I don't suppose Roberto and fat boy will allow you to publish that on their "site"
??? ;) lol


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