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Majdanek 'Cyclone' Column

Postby Callahan » 1 week 4 days ago (Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:53 am)

While reviewing some of the history of the debate regarding the alleged "Zyklon B Introduction Columns" at Auschwitz, I stumbled upon this photograph, below, which was taken at Majdanek and published in The Illustrated London News in 1944:

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I've hardly looked into Majdanek myself but am aware of the formerly alleged 'gas chamber' that is no longer even claimed as such. Was this column over the alleged 'chamber'? If not, where was it located in the camp? Did it serve a functional purpose during the war, or was this likely installed for a photo-op by the Soviets thereafter?



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Re: Majdanek 'Cyclone' Column

Postby borjastick » 1 week 4 days ago (Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:43 am)

I think you can safely disregard Majdanek and every claim that goes with it being a 'death camp'. Even the official story has been modified and amended down to a point where it causes least offence. From 2m dead to about 80,000 now. Even then the facts don't support the claims. It's hardly worth bothering with save for the fact that it is a perfectly formed example of holocaust bull.
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Re: Majdanek 'Cyclone' Column

Postby Hannover » 1 week 4 days ago (Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:04 pm)

Right out of the gate they blow it, there was no such thing as "Cyclone crystals" as laughably stated in the caption.

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The absurdly alleged mass murder weapon was said to be Zyklon-B, a chunky, somewhat granular substance that is infused with cyanide for killing pests.

Zyklon-B
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Once dumped from it's container the cyanide begins to exit the granular carrier as a gas. It takes hours to completely release its cyanide load.

Note that some of the typically lying "eyewitnesses" have also claimed that it was a crystalline substance, with a range of colors. :D

The photo is typical 'holocau$t' stagecraft. There were no such gas chambers anywhere.

Specifics on this Majdanek staged photo:

- the roofing nails used to attach the tar or rubber membrane are gleaming brightly, indicating new construction. This "chimney" cannot be more than 2-3 months old, as the nails would have rusted, turning dark brown, from normal weathering.

- The waterproofing membrane does not appear to have been glued (or heat-torched) to the surface of the roof at the corner in the left foreground. Since the roof has a pronounced pitch, water would have run under the membrane corner pieces and through the presumed aperture behind.

- The corner pieces, similiar to tar roof tiles, do not properly protect the corner itself from streaming rain water. There is a noticeable hole (20-30 mm) which would have allowed rainwater to stream down the inside of the chimney there. It is improperly (haphazardly) waterproofed.
If this object had existed for any appreciable length of time, the nails would be rusty and dark and the waterproofing membrane would have been properly sealed at the top corner (left foreground).

Clearly this object should be described as a "temporary chimney", constructed for photographic purposes.

- It looks as though the all-important corner flanges were cut from small pieces and tucked under the coverings of the sides, barely. A proper on-the-spot installation would have necessitated the full flange being installed first, especially covering the corners fully, and the covering of the sides to have followed, overlapping the flanges fully by several inches.
This haphazard tucking of small, ill-fitting pieces at the corners suggests that the already side-covered construct was set into place, and the flanges to protect the corners added afterward to give the appearance (but not reality) of careful waterproofing between the "chimney" prop and the roof.

- The questionable construction attributes, already noted, coupled with a total absence of chemical staining or wear on the underside of the lid, are tell-tale indications that the object was never used as a "Zyklon-B introduction device".

- Plus, the storyline at Majdanek has changed from cyanide to carbon monoxide in bottles, The CO bottles outside the "gas chambers" shown to tourists are ***actually carbon dioxide*** with some other ingredient which has been scratched out.

More to follow on Majdanek.

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Re: Majdanek 'Cyclone' Column

Postby Hannover » 1 week 4 days ago (Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:21 pm)

Here is the section on Majdanek from David Cole's splendid:
Forty-Six Important Unanswered Questions Regarding the Nazi Gas Chambers
https://codoh.com/library/document/987/?lang=en

In a direct, rational manner Cole simply shatters the childish, ridiculous & impossible 'gas chambers' claims.

Unanswered Questions Regarding the Physical Evidence at the Majdanek Concentration Camp (Poland)
from: 'Forty-Six Important Unanswered Questions Regarding the Nazi Gas Chambers'

by David Cole

https://codoh.com/library/document/987/?lang=en
:arrow: Gas chamber 1 has two doors, both of which open INTO the gas chamber room. How can a homicidal gas chamber have two doors which open IN? Wouldn't the bodies be pressed up against the doors, as described numerous times by eyewitnesses?

:arrow: The main door into the gas chamber 1 has no locks. It can be opened from either the inside or the outside. There are no holes or fittings where a lock might have been. What stopped the inmates from opening this door?

:arrow: Gas chamber 1 has a plate glass window in it. There are no holes or fittings around the window where bars or any other kind of cover might once have been. Since the plaster around the window is covered with blue stains, we know that it is the plaster that existed during the time Zyklon B gas was used in this room. If there WERE bars or any other type of cover attached to this window, why are there no traces? What would have stopped the inmates from trying to climb out the window, or breaking the window and causing a gas leak?

:arrow: There is a room INSIDE gas chamber 1. Why would there be a separate room INSIDE a gas chamber? Doesn't this room indicate that gas chamber 1 was used for something OTHER than killing people?

:arrow: Gas chambers 2 and 3 are designed backwards. Chamber 2 has a Zyklon B induction hole in the ceiling, but no Zyklon B traces or blue stains. Chamber 3 has heavy, floor-to-ceiling Zyklon B traces and blue stains, but no Zyklon B induction hole. And, like the roof of Krema 2 at Auschwitz, the ceiling shows no sign of a hole having ever been there. Why would chamber 2 have a Zyklon B induction hole and no traces, and chamber 3 plenty of traces but no hole?

:arrow: The ceilings in chambers 2 and 4 are low enough so that the Zyklon B induction holes could have been blocked by the victims. What would have stopped the inmates from blocking the holes?
(33) The doors to chambers 2,3 and 4 are built to latch from the outside AND the inside. The latches can be opened from either side. Does this suggest that the rooms were used for something other than killing people?

:arrow: Getting back to the issue of hemispherical grids covering the peepholes, it is said that the point of these grids was to prevent the inmates from breaking the glass of the peepholes and causing a gas leak. Yet the hemispherical grids attached to the peepholes on the doors of chambers 2, 3 and 4 are attached on the OUTSIDE of the doors. These grids wouldn't prevent someone INSIDE the room from breaking the glass...but they WOULD prevent someone OUTSIDE the room from doing so. Why are the grids not on the inside? Does this contradict with the statements by Pressac and the eyewitnesses regarding the need for grids in a homicidal gas chamber?

:arrow: The Majdanek camp is built on a hill. At the top of the hill is the camp crematorium. At the opposite end of the camp, at the bottom of the hill, is the "Bath and Disinfection" complex, which houses the gas chambers. From the Nazi's point of view, what was the wisdom in putting the gas chambers at the opposite end of the camp from the ovens, and at the bottom of the hill (after each gassing, the dead bodies would have to have been dragged up the hill, the length of the entire camp, to the ovens)?

:arrow: As the Nazis were preparing to abandon the Majdanek camp, they destroyed the crematorium building. Why were the gas chambers not similarly destroyed? Why would the Nazis leave their weapons of mass murder intact for the world to see? How hard would it have been for the Nazis to destroy the gas chambers, just like they did the crematorium building? At least, shouldn't the Nazis have filled in the Zyklon B induction holes, which serve as direct proofs of homicidal gassings? Either way, the destruction of the crematorium is clear proof that the Nazis had both the time and the ability to demolish buildings in the camp if they wanted to. Why were the gas chambers not demolished?

:arrow: In his book "Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers", Jean-Claude Pressac publishes a photo of the Majdanek gas chambers, with the caption "Photograph taken at the Majdanek concentration camp in June 1979, showing one of the disinfestation gas chambers thought to be a homicidal gas chamber." On page 555, he also has this to say about the Majdanek gas chambers: "I am sorry to say, and I am not the only one in the West, that the Majdanek homicidal and/or delousing gas chambers are still waiting for a true historian, which is mildly upsetting in view of the fact that the camp fell into the hands of the Russians intact in 1944." Do these comments suggest that the gas chambers at Majdanek may in fact have been disinfestation gas chambers? At least, don't these comments suggest that there has not yet been a thorough investigation into the purpose of these rooms? **

:arrow: To sum up the Majdanek gas chamber issue: If we take Pressac's comments and then factor in the doors that don't lock, the doors that open INTO the gas chamber, the doors with latches that can be manipulated from both the outside AND the inside, the window in gas chamber 1, the room inside gas chamber 1, the lack of any Zyklon B induction hole in gas chamber 3, the lack of any Zyklon B traces in gas chamber 2 (which DOES have a "Zyklon B induction hole"), the heavy blue stains on the OUTSIDE of the building, and the location of the building, at the bottom of a hill, at the opposite end of the camp from the crematorium, is it reasonable to suggest that these rooms were delousing chambers?

** In what can only be considered an unfortunate example of how major disputes between Holocaust historians are shielded from the public, the same room Pressac describes in his book as a "disinfestation gas chamber" is featured in the book "The World Must Know," the official book of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington D.C., written by Museum director Dr. Michael Berenbaum.

In that book, Berenbaum describes the room as a HOMICIDAL gas chamber and, what's more, a CASTING of this room was made for display AT THE MUSEUM, as PROOF of the homicidal gas chambers! Thus, in both Berenbaum's book AND in the Museum itself, the ONLY material proof given of homicidal gassings is THIS ROOM, a room Pressac staunchly believes to be a disinfestation gas chamber (in fact, in his Auschwitz book, Pressac actually RIDICULES those who say that this Majdanek room is proof of homicidal gassings, and criticizes everyone from the man who prosecuted Faurisson in France to the Majdanek State Museum personnel for perpetuating a fraud).
But does anyone give a damn that the general public, all the millions, might be receiving fraudulent information? Some might suggest that disputes such as these should be kept private so as not to shake the public's confidence in Holocaust history, or in the Holocaust historians. But don't you think we have a RESPONSIBILITY not to knowingly feed the public falsehoods or unproven claims disguised as unquestioned facts? Don't you think we have a responsibility to be honest about our research? If not, what makes us any different from the "historians" of the Soviet Union, or Hitler's Germany, who knowingly tailored their research to produce a politically expedient conclusion? When the ends begin justifying the means, watch integrity go flying out the window.

As bad as the public misinformation about Majdanek is, the Stalin-esque purging of Pressac's "Auschwitz; Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers" from the official record is worse. This master-work of historiography, once loudly heralded in the press (see enclosed clippings), is NOW nowhere to be found when references to Pressac are made. A recent article in "Publishers Weekly," detailing a forthcoming U.S. Holocaust Museum book containing 29 original essays from Holocaust scholars including Berenbaum and Pressac, not only neglects to mention Pressac's gas chamber book, but seems to suggest that Pressac's conversion from revisionist to gas chamber believer came only recently, as he was researching his just-published "slim volume" about the Auschwitz crematorium.
The entire period of the 1980's, which Pressac spent researching his gas chamber book after his "conversion", is omitted.
Yet scholars around the world continue to use Pressac's gas chamber book (if they're lucky enough to have one of the few copies), mainly because, even if one disagrees with Pressac's conclusions, his book is STILL the best (and the only) single source for the blueprints, construction slips, alteration plans, and inter-office communiques regarding the Auschwitz "gas chambers".
Neither side in this debate agrees entirely with Pressac...but for the gas chamber supporters, his book is an embarrassment because it IS so thorough. It is the most thorough work yet produced about the gas chambers, yet Pressac cannot find that elusive objective proof of gassings. So now, apparently, the historians have just decided to pretend the book doesn't exist. I've always referred to the Pressac gas chamber book as the most popular book that never existed!

Also recommended:
Majdanek Concentration Camp: some findings
Jürgen Graf
http://aaargh.vho.org/engl/JGmajdanek.html

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Re: Majdanek 'Cyclone' Column

Postby Callahan » 1 week 4 days ago (Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:16 pm)

Thanks Hannover. If I'm not mistaken, I think I'd also mention that the Soviets were well-aware of (and largely disseminating) German gas chamber propaganda throughout the war, and had plenty of time to consider what evidence they would fabricate/destroy upon liberating the camps. Seeing an alleged "introduction column" pictured here in 1944, which was never really cited as evidence of a Majdanek gas chamber again (since the claim is ridiculous with a simple investigation of the physical evidence - thanks David Cole) is actually good evidence of an attempted cover-up. If we know none of the alleged 'chambers' in Majdanek could have been used as such, how can anyone explain this "Cyclone" column?


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