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Did Hasidic Jews have a much higher death toll than other Jews?

Postby Sannhet » 3 weeks 5 days ago (Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:36 am)

Do we any data, even from Holocaust-Believer sources, on losses for Hasidic Jews (ultra-Orthodox, as in the photo with the article below) vs. more mainstream religious Jews vs. secular Jews?

(Weren't the Orthodox Jews allies of the NS regime, because both favored emigration of Europe's Jews?)

Netflix Director Apologizes for Holocaust Comment
By Amy Spiro / October 23, 2017

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Heidi Ewing, who made 'One of Us,' said hassidic Jews were targeted for their look.

The director of a new Netflix film about hassidic dissidents has apologized for comments she made about the Holocaust that were inaccurate and offensive.

Heidi Ewing, who co-directed the new documentary One of Us, appeared on The Charlie Rose Show on Thursday night to promote the film. There she told guest host Jeff Glor, “The vast majority of hassidic Jews were exterminated in the Holocaust, partly because they refused to blend in. They kept wearing the clothing. They sort of were loud and proud about their identity, and the vast majority died in the Holocaust.”

While it is true that the hassidic community was decimated by the Holocaust, the idea that Jews who “blended in” were less of a target is wholly inaccurate. The Nazis sought out Jews of all stripes, including those who didn’t practice the religion at all.

Several days later, Ewing posted an apology for her statement on her website.

“I am sorry if my words on Charlie Rose caused any pain and would like to clarify their meaning,” she wrote, noting that close to half of world Jewry was killed by the Nazis (the figure is closer to 35%; in Europe alone it was about 60%). “Hassidic Jews suffered disproportionate losses during the Holocaust partially because they were more easily identified and therefore had more difficulty hiding. This has been documented by multiple historians. It took great courage for hassidic Jews at that time to refuse to change their appearance to look more like the general European public. I am only filled with respect and admiration for any person who chooses to live their own truth.”

One of Us, which premiered globally on Netflix on Friday, follows the stories of three hassidic New Yorkers who choose to leave behind the community and the struggles they face in doing so.
It seems she did not change anything in the 'apology,' but still insisted the Hasidic Jews died at a much higher rate; she just said it more politely.



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Re: Did Hasidic Jews have a much higher death toll than other Jews?

Postby Hannover » 3 weeks 5 days ago (Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:22 am)

I see yet another 'Greatest Victim Contest'.
After all, there's big money, preferential treatment & status to be had.

All the more absurd given the fact that the alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' are scientifically impossible nonsense.

On the whole it's quite simple:

If you start with false premises, everything you subsequently extrapolate from those premises will likewise carry along the original error and thus exhibit error within themselves, aka: garbage in, garbage out.

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"The ‘Holocaust’ is such a gigantic fraud that it is a cornucopia of absurdities.”
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: Did Hasidic Jews have a much higher death toll than other Jews?

Postby borjastick » 3 weeks 5 days ago (Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:11 am)

While it is true that the hassidic community was decimated...
- Heidi Ewing

On that basis the maximum death rate for jews in the holocaust would be about 400,000.
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'

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Re: Did Hasidic Jews have a much higher death toll than other Jews?

Postby Hannover » 3 weeks 5 days ago (Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:32 am)

I would say that these cartoonish 'hasdics' are less than honest, less than evolved.
Becareful what you wish for, 'Israel'. :lol:

Female Israeli fights off primative "ultra religious" Jews.
The video shows a group of Jews spit and swear at a woman, calling her a 'shiksa' (a non-Jewish woman) as well as a whore.

http://video.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/ ... 505124.mp4

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Re: Did Hasidic Jews have a much higher death RATE than other Jews?

Postby Sannhet » 3 weeks 5 days ago (Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:55 pm)

Note: I meant this thread to be: "Did Hasidic Jews have a much higher death rate than other Jews?" Not 'toll'.

I wonder where Ms. Ewing got her information that they died in the Holocaust at a much higher rate than regular Jews. Does she just assume it because it seems plausible? But she says it "has been documented by multiple historians."

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Re: Did Hasidic Jews have a much higher death toll than other Jews?

Postby Kingfisher » 2 weeks 5 days ago (Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:03 am)

She had to apologise for that? What the hell was offensive (whether accurate or not)? "They were loud and proud about their identity." Whether you, or she, personally like Hassidic Jews or not that sounds more like a compliment to their courage and group loyalty.

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Re: Did Hasidic Jews have a much higher death toll than other Jews?

Postby Sannhet » 2 weeks 5 days ago (Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:12 pm)

Kingfisher wrote:She had to apologise for that? What the hell was offensive (whether accurate or not)? "They were loud and proud about their identity." Whether you, or she, personally like Hassidic Jews or not that sounds more like a compliment to their courage and group loyalty.

You're right. I suspect it is because the 'offender' (Heidi Ewing) is a gentile, a Christian.

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Heidi Ewing (born circa 1972) is a native of the Detroit area and is a graduate of Mercy High School [a Catholic school] and the Georgetown School of Foreign Service [also a Jesuit school, at least in origin]
The surname Ewing is of Scottish origin, and is an Anglicised form derived from the Gaelic clan name "Clann Eóghain" meaning "Children of Eóghain".[1][2] The forename "Eógan" is thought to derive ultimately from the Greek eugenes (Greek- ευγενής, meaning "noble", literally "well-born").

Here is a simple Google search for her:
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Heidi Ewing is the one with longer hair; the other woman is her frequent film collaborator Rachel Grady. Grady is Jewish. She says as much herself in an interview they gave almost ten years ago [see 0:50] about their documentary film "Jesus Camp" about White Evangelical Christians in the USA ("the majority of [subjects] in our film had never met a Jew," comments Grady in the interview). Ewing also confirms, in the interview, that she is a Catholic [1:25].

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Re: Did Hasidic Jews have a much higher death RATE than other Jews?

Postby Hektor » 2 weeks 4 days ago (Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:13 am)

Sannhet wrote:Note: I meant this thread to be: "Did Hasidic Jews have a much higher death rate than other Jews?" Not 'toll'.

I wonder where Ms. Ewing got her information that they died in the Holocaust at a much higher rate than regular Jews. Does she just assume it because it seems plausible? But she says it "has been documented by multiple historians."


That gives rise to two questions:
- Is it true that historians claim to have documented it?
- What is the nature of this documentation? We know how the rest is "documented", especially when it comes to the critical questions.


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