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The Fakiest of Fake News

Postby Hegwood » 1 month 2 days ago (Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:59 pm)

Donald Trump often dismisses negative stories as just "fake news". His supporters are well justified in agreeing with him, the main stream media has a long history of producing just that and here is no better example of the practice that the holocaust story.

The holohoax is the ultimate example of main stream media fake news. It is fake news in its purest form, not just the spinning of an event so that it is misrepresented but the creation of a fake event from the ground up. Nothing else comes even close to it for misrepresentation of the truth, refusal to examine its validity, coordination among media outlets, duration of the deception, and malicious intent.

And its fakiness is so easy to prove. Just a short examination will demonstrate to any honest rational person that the holocaust story is impossible. By presenting it as truly actual events, producers, editors, and reporters display ignorance verging on imbecility. Huge lies in the story can be exhibited in five minutes. Complete destruction requires only a matter of hours.

Of course, their fake publications are actually the work of individuals with some intelligence but who are some combination of corrupt, dishonest, or lazy to the point of being useless. In either case there is every reason to dismiss the holocaust and it's not unreasonable to dismiss anything else they produce. Personally I completely ignore the entire main stream media - newspapers, network and cable news, even film. Why should I read or listen to a report or watch a production then try to determine if it contains useful factual information or is just propaganda lies?
An astute individual doesn't even need scientific or academic studies to discover the holocaust is simply false, a total lie. All that is needed is a clear layout of the story and a mediocre knowledge of physical reality. Once one has a complete story, not just some individual's emotional tale, compare it with what is physically possible and it quickly becomes untenable.

The best example of the this fakiness in the story is a work by Yankiel Wiernik, "A Year in Treblinka". Although his part of the holocaust story is an obvious lie it is the sole description of how 1,500,000 individuals were murdered. That is, even though it is an obvious lie it is not questioned and is an integral part of the holocaust storyline.

Very briefly Wiernik's tale is: Jews arrived at death camp Treblinka by trainloads, were stripped of all possessions, forced to undress then driven into rooms where they were gassed with the exhaust from a diesel engine. They were all dead within minutes and the "yellowed" corpses were removed. Initially they were buried in mass graves, but later corpses were taken to huge grates on which they were piled then set on fire and burned, not cremated just burned like any combustible material. The only fuel Wiernik claims was necessary was the bodies of "fat women". Later bodies were removed from the mass graves and burned in the same way.

The whole tale is a lie. Since diesel engine exhaust contains very little carbon monoxide, it is not possible to use it to poison anyone. Further the bodies of carbon monoxide poisoning are pink or reddish not yellow. But the real killer of the story is the burning of the corpses. Enough has been previously said about the impossibility of destroying corpses by simple burning. Briefly, to be reduced to ash they must be cremated using massive amounts of fuel but Wiernik claims no fuel was necessary. He makes such ridiculous statements, such as "The workers piled the corpses on the grate and set them on fire." and “It turned out that bodies of women burned more easily than those of men. Accordingly, the bodies of women were used for kindling the fires.”

Although Wiernik only writes about Treblinka in his preposterous tale, the creators of the holocaust storyline use his work to describe the alleged operation of Belsec and Sobibor as well. The combine total of the three camps is 1,500,000 "holocaust" victims. These too are obvious lies.
It doesn't takes much longer to dismiss the remainder of holocaust storyline. Numerous researchers have done all the work all the is required is a few hours of reading.

To the millions of Trump supporters who despise the main stream media, the holocaust is a quick way to expose their corruption. Join the revisionists and spread the word as best you can.



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Re: The Fakiest of Fake News

Postby Lothario » 1 month 1 day ago (Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:15 am)

Exactly my thoughts. Well done writing it down.

I sometimes try to spread the revisionist message among other Trump supporters on the internet. Most of them react the typical way though. Next time I'll try to emphasize the fake news angle more.

I have some hope (probably in vain) that Trump sometime, during his second term, will reveal the lie the holocaust is. As President he can declassify any document. Surely there are documents that prove the holocaust is a hoax constructed by the US (and Soviets). If you see what's happening in Europe and the US at the moment, the disadvantages are starting to outweight the advantages the hoax has for conservatives, especially since the left has succesfully framed national-socialism as a right wing movement while it is actually a competing alternative form of socialism.
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Re: The Fakiest of Fake News

Postby FJI » 2 weeks 5 days ago (Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:38 am)

I can't imagine The Donald doing anything as radical as exposing the lie that is the accepted holocaust narrative, like all American Presidents he pays uncritical homage to Israel.
Surely our hope lies in documents held by the former USSR?

Regarding fake news; it was indeed Trump who coined that excellent description of the MSM, it is interesting to see how governments/the left have turned it around and are using it as an excuse to censor social media.

It amazes me that this forum has not been taken down by vested interest.

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Re: The Fakiest of Fake News

Postby Hegwood » 2 weeks 3 days ago (Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:11 pm)

The one thing I've learned from the MSM it is to be skeptical of everything, not just their reports but also any claimed exposure of their lies. Everything need to be compared to reality, motivation, and integrity.

Accordingly, be skeptical of anything I say but note that in the case of the holocaust we have the strongest possible reason to dismiss it as lies. Huge parts of it did not happen simply because what is described is impossible.

Here is a link to a more rigorous treatment of the difficulties of open air cremation. It shows that the "cremation" described by Yankel Wiernik and incorporated wholly in the holohoax storyline is completely contrary to actual experience of well documented open air cremations.

It is a paper from the CODOH Library by Heinrich Koechel.
https://codoh.com/library/document/3361/?lang=en

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Re: The Fakiest of Fake News

Postby Hegwood » 1 week 4 days ago (Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:01 am)

Here is link to a previous thread on this forum that discusses a propaganda tale that is probably the precursor to Yankel Wiernik's "A Year in Treblinka". While it differs considerably from Wierniks tale, both claim mass murder of jews in the same time and place, hence both allegedly describe the same event.

The second post of the thread, the original post by David M., contains the original tale. It is probably the first mention of Treblinka as a death camp. Perhaps Yankiel Wiernik was trying to improve the story for incorporation into the overall Holocaust myth. If so, he failed miserably.

It is short a read that I present here as a further example of the ease with which the MSM could blow big holes in the Holocaust story if it was honest.

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Re: The Fakiest of Fake News

Postby Hegwood » 1 week 1 hour ago (Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:50 am)

I have never watched the Holocaust propaganda movie, "Schindler's List", a true hate film, but I was told it contains a scene of a German sniper shooting labor camp inmates from some balcony. Supposedly, to depict the evil Germans.

I thought the scene was discussed on this forum and was shown to be physically impossible but a search did not turn up the subject in a thread. In any event the scene, like the whole movie, is a work of fiction. Not only fiction but a true hate film.

Compare that fictional scene with the very real video of an IDF sniper shooting a Palestinian inside the fence of the Gaza concentration camp. A video that has been verified as true and even praised by Israeli authorities.

Here are Youtube links to the scene and the video. Both depict morally repugnant behavior but the first is just Holocaust hate propaganda while the second is simply morally repugnant behavior.
Fictional Hollywood scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcyLRTB9fRY
Very real Israeli sniper shooting Palestinian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjTkJIPKj80

As I said previously, I do not watch MSM, not even Hollywood films. Who knows when and where such hate propaganda garbage will show up in them. The danger is, will I be able to recognize it.

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Re: The Fakiest of Fake News

Postby borjastick » 6 days 22 hours ago (Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:05 am)

Hegwood

The 'sniper' was, I think, supposed to be Amon Goeth who was shooting people from the balcony. I understand that this was impossible on two counts; firstly because his balcony was on the other side of the house and second because there was a hill or earth mound obscuring his view. So yes it was pure fiction.

I suspect someone else will correct me or add to the detail you require.

More about Amon Goeth here http://www.oskarschindler.com/12.htm it's almost certainly pure fiction too but I haven't read it yet.
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Re: The Fakiest of Fake News

Postby Dresden » 6 days 19 hours ago (Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:34 pm)

Hegwood, here's a start:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10432&p=78794&hilit=Amon+Goeth#p78794

Postby Dresden » 1 year 9 months ago (Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:22 pm)

cold beer wrote:

"Good observation.
Couple that with the fact that there was no balcony overlooking the camp"

That's right, but there WAS a camp overlooking the balcony.

What Göth should have done was to take his rifle to the camp and order some inmates to go stand on his balcony.....then he could have stood on the edge of the hill and shot them.

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Re: The Fakiest of Fake News

Postby Dresden » 6 days 19 hours ago (Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:46 pm)

Plaszow Camp, by John Ball:

Maybe, just maybe, they believe what they are telling you about the 'holocaust', but maybe, just maybe, their contempt for your intelligence and your character is beyond anything you could ever have imagined. -- Bradley Smith


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