Questions for Holocaust Controversies to answer/debate here.

Read and post various viewpoints or search our large archives.

Moderator: Moderator

Forum rules
Be sure to read the Rules/guidelines before you post!
User avatar
borjastick
Valuable asset
Valuable asset
Posts: 2514
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:52 am
Location: Europe

Questions for Holocaust Controversies to answer/debate here.

Postby borjastick » 1 year 5 months ago (Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:11 am)

From the look of yesterday's comments about the Holocaust Controversies website and abuse of Revisionists there it was suggested that they may like to come here for a fair handed, decent and intelligent debate about the holocaust. They would be welcome I believe.

Here are a few key questions which they should consider answering here. You may have more and better ones, so please chip in.


1 - If six million jews were killed in the holocaust who were the many jews who fled all over the world immediately after the war? Who were they and where exactly did they come from, I mean if the six million were the bulk of jews 'available' to their German persecutors surely there could be few left over to emerge from the dust and then amazingly gain passage all over the world on ships? Ships that left from the ruined ports of Italy and eastern european coast.

Let's not forget the experience of my father in Palestine who was a British soldier in the Royal Irish Fusiliers and who served a long stint at Netanya near Tel Aviv. His unit's role at that point was to help with the processing and immigration of jews arriving from Europe after the war ended. He was there doing this job for some months in 1945-46 and everyday saw many different ships bringing thousands of jewish refugees from Europe. He said they were often overwhelmed with the numbers and though they were all supposed to be logged and registered it simply wasn't possible so they were just let in. Therefore the official numbers of jewish immigrants from Europe is totally inaccurate.

2 - Why do ardent believers want 6m jews to have died in the holocaust when clear evidence suggests that didn't happen?

3 - If six million jews were killed, in the holocaust, who were the 1m jews General Patton was told to re-house right at the end of the war, in Germany? Once again who were they and where did they come from? Plus how did the authorities (allies) know that one million jews were expected and neededhousing?

4 - Looking at the numbers of jews listed by country in the Wannsee minutes and deducting 6m and allowing for the numbers we know were removed east by Russia, and those never under German control who were the millions of jews who survived the holocaust?

5 - Why do we never hear and read statements by gays, gypsies etc about gas chambers and mass murder in the camps. IOWs why is it only jews who 'survived' to tell their tales?

Please add further points or questions you feel pertinent.
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'

'We don't need evidence, we have survivors' - israeli politician

mark_gr
Posts: 7
Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:31 am

Re: Questions for Holocaust Controversies to answer/debate here.

Postby mark_gr » 1 year 5 months ago (Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:14 am)

borjastick wrote:2 - Why do ardent believers want 6m jews to have died in the holocaust when clear evidence suggests that didn't happen?


Which clear evidence?

User avatar
Hannover
Valuable asset
Valuable asset
Posts: 9892
Joined: Sun Nov 24, 2002 7:53 pm

Re: Questions for Holocaust Controversies to answer/debate here.

Postby Hannover » 1 year 5 months ago (Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:16 pm)

mark_gr wrote:
borjastick wrote:2 - Why do ardent believers want 6m jews to have died in the holocaust when clear evidence suggests that didn't happen?

Which clear evidence?

That's as easy and as basic as it gets, the complete lack of proof.

Quick example:

Jews & their "Holocaust Industry" say that ’6M Jews & 5M others’ went to huge mass graves, they claim to know the exact locations of these alleged enormous mass graves, yet they cannot show us the alleged massive human remains.

We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

BTW, there have been attempts to find these alleged enormous remains, but they could not be found.
And as expected, that fact is ignored by the controlled media.

Like I said, as easy and as basic as it gets

Welcome, Hannover

The "Holocau$t Industry" in court:
'Please your honor, there really are remains of millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, ... but, but, well, umm, we can't show the court the human remains. You must trust us, we're Zionists.'
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

mark_gr
Posts: 7
Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:31 am

Re: Questions for Holocaust Controversies to answer/debate here.

Postby mark_gr » 1 year 5 months ago (Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:52 pm)

Hannover wrote:
mark_gr wrote:
borjastick wrote:2 - Why do ardent believers want 6m jews to have died in the holocaust when clear evidence suggests that didn't happen?

Which clear evidence?

That's as easy and as basic as it gets, the complete lack of proof.

Quick example:

Jews & their "Holocaust Industry" say that ’6M Jews & 5M others’ went to huge mass graves, they claim to know the exact locations of these alleged enormous mass graves, yet they cannot show us the alleged massive human remains.

We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

BTW, there have been attempts to find these alleged enormous remains, but they could not be found.
And as expected, that fact is ignored by the controlled media.

Like I said, as easy and as basic as it gets

Welcome, Hannover

The "Holocau$t Industry" in court:
'Please your honor, there really are remains of millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, ... but, but, well, umm, we can't show the court the human remains. You must trust us, we're Zionists.'


I don't think anyone claims that 6 million Jews went to mass graves. It's claimed they were shot behind the front, buried in mass graves, and gassed and cremated without the need for mass graves. I'm not sure about any of this but I know no one claims 6 million Jews went to mass graves.

User avatar
Hannover
Valuable asset
Valuable asset
Posts: 9892
Joined: Sun Nov 24, 2002 7:53 pm

Re: Questions for Holocaust Controversies to answer/debate here.

Postby Hannover » 1 year 5 months ago (Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:27 pm)

I don't think anyone claims that 6 million Jews went to mass graves. It's claimed they were shot behind the front, buried in mass graves, and gassed and cremated without the need for mass graves. I'm not sure about any of this but I know no one claims 6 million Jews went to mass graves.
Then where did they go?
After all, 'gassing & cremation' does not magically make human remains disappear.
Nor do the alleged mass graves, from which the corpses were supposedly exhumed and then cremated, disappear.
There would be massive infrared detectable ground disturbances even if they had been filled in.
You know, like what archaeologists do to find ancient sites.
‘historian’ Raul Hilberg wrote in his three-volume book entitled “The Destruction of the European Jews” that there were 700,000 – 900,000 bodies buried at Treblinka.

True, not all are said to have been cremated*, which is rather irrelevant since there is is plenty human remains after cremation So those had to go somewhere. And the storyline says they were buried. ex.:
“The mass graves were opened and the corpses were taken out, to be consumed by the flames of huge pyres (the ‘roasts’). The bones were crushed and, together with the ashes, were reburied in the same graves.”
- Israel Gutman (ed.), Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, 4 vols., Macmillan, New York 1990, vol. 4, p. 1481-87
Again, a ridiculous story to be sure, but there it is.

Recall that there were failed attempts to find these allegedly known huge mass graves / remains. I rather doubt they would have wasted their time looking if they didn't expect to find them.
ex.:
!! Excavation Result: No Enormous Human Remains as Alleged at Babi Yar !! … of
course'

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11314

And of course at alleged extermination sites we see claims of those huge mass graves / remains:

Sobibor ‘monument’ supposedly over the remains of 250,000 Jew, actual remains of the alleged 250,000 cannot be shown.
Image

Alleged “ash pond” for 1,100,000 Jew remains at Auschwitz, no actual remains can be shown.
Image

Alleged location of Treblinka mass graves / remains according to Treblinka officials, no alleged remains can be shown
Image

photo from ‘Surviving Treblinka’, by Samuel Willenberg.
Image
It is captioned: “crane lifting corpses destined for cremation”.
Does anyone see any “corpses”?

* For bodies not claimed to have been cremated, we have books like 'Holocaust by Bullets' where it is claimed that the sites are precisely known, though they cannot show us the alleged & truly massive numbers of Jews that are allegedly buried in those claimed locations. We know why.
see:
Holocaust by Bullets: Uncovering the Reality of alleged Genocide’
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7362
and:
Mattogno demolishes ‘Holocaust by Bullets’ ‘mass graves’ fraud
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9768
and:
“Holocaust by Bullets” debunked
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5410

Per their alleged ‘Holocaust by bullets’ the ‘holocau$t’ Industry now claims that ca. 2,000,000 Jews were shot by the Einsatzgruppen into huge pits, so, anyone, please SHOW us the actual excavations, the enormous mass graves, & remains that are claimed to exist, their locations are allegedly known.
Is that:
100 graves of 20,000?
200 graves of 10,000?
400 graves of 5,000?
500 graves of 4,000?
1000 graves of 2000?
2000 graves of 1000?

- Hannover
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.


Return to “'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: MSN [Bot] and 7 guests