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Re: Hans Frank's Diary

Postby James Dow » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:31 pm)

Is the diary of Hans Frank authentic? And can the diary of Hans Frank be used as evidence that the Nazis had a systematic plan to murder Jews?


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Re: Hans Frank's Diary

Postby Breker » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:09 am)

Mr. Dow,
We would be interested in knowing where you are getting your supposed English translations of his diary from. An unbiased source we would hope.
Also Sir, in using logic, wouldn't it be necessary to see some physical evidence of "systematic murder" before anyone could make such an assumption?
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Re: Hans Frank's Diary

Postby James Dow » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:22 am)

Hans Frank’s diary (from Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression, 1946, Vol. I, pp. 992, 994):

But what should be done with the Jews? Do you think they will be settled down in the 'Ostland' [eastern territories], in [resettlement] villages? This is what we were told in Berlin: Why all this bother? We can do nothing with them either in the 'Ostland' nor in the 'Reichkommissariat.' So liquidate them yourself.

Gentlemen, I must ask you to rid yourself of all feeling of pity. We must annihilate the Jews, wherever we find them and wherever it is possible, in order to maintain the structure of the Reich as a whole. ...

We cannot shoot or poison these 3,500,000 Jews, but we shall nevertheless be able to take measures, which will lead, somehow, to their annihilation....

That we sentence 1,200,000 Jews to die of hunger should be noted only marginally.


This is the source of the English version of Hans Frank's diary. Although physical evidence of a "Holocaust" is required to prove a "Holocaust," these quotes make it appear as though there is a "Final Solution."

SOURCE: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/how ... ust-denial
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Re: Hans Frank's Diary

Postby Kermes » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:12 am)

"Another example is that anti-revisionists frequently cite a speech made on 16 December 1941 (often misdated to 13 December 1941). In this speech, Frank used words which anti-revisionists argue mean "exterminate" and which revisionist argue refer to deportations (see Meanings and translations of German words and Holocaust revisionism‎). However, Frank also explicitly stated that "We cannot shoot 3.5 million Jews, we cannot poison them" and "I have initiated negotiations for the purpose of deporting them to the east."[2]"
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Hans_Frank

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Re: Hans Frank's Diary

Postby James Dow » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:39 am)

Can you show me an example of a word which is intentionally mistranslated in order to promote the "Holocaust"?
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Re: Hans Frank's Diary

Postby Kermes » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:57 am)

"intentionally mistranslated"? People can differ on how to translate a word, without this implying intentional mistranslation. A well-known example is Hitler's 1939 Reichstag speech and the word "Vernichtung." Exterminationists translate this as extermination, revisionists as emigration/deportation.

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Re: Hans Frank's Diary

Postby James Dow » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:10 am)

I understand that people can have different interperations regarding not only what a word in a foreign language means, but what a word in their own tongue means. The reason I said "intentionally mistranslated" is because those who promote the "Holocaust" would have every reason to mistranslate German words in order to make it appear as though the Nazis are vicious monsters who want to eradicate European Jewry.
A well-known example is Hitler's 1939 Reichstag speech and the word "Vernichtung." Exterminationists translate this as extermination, revisionists as emigration/deportation.
Although is a good example of my point, can you show me an example in the diary of Hans Frank where revisionists and non-revisionists disagree on to what a word would translate as, which would significantly change it's meaning?
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Re: Hans Frank's Diary

Postby Hannover » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:24 am)

Dow asks:
can you show me an example in the diary of Hans Frank where revisionists and non-revisionists disagree on to what a word would translate as, which would significantly change it's meaning?

Incorrect starting point. The onus is upon the accuser.
You simply have things a bit backwards.

Can you show us examples in the actual, authentic German language diary of Hans Frank which support the 'holocaust storyline'.

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“we’ve often fantasized about drawing up an indictment against Adolf Hitler himself. And to put into that indictment the major charge: the Final Solution of the Jewish question in Europe, the physical annihilation of Jewry. And then it dawned upon us, what would we do? We didn’t have the evidence.”
- "holocaust historian" Raul Hilberg,
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Re: Hans Frank's Diary

Postby James Dow » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:33 pm)

Alright, so I understand that the burden of proof is upon me to provide the evidence. The problem is, I have vigorously searched for the diary under the German name for it, "Hans Frank Tagebuch" and have failed to locate it under Google Books and the Book Seller Bitz! I have also searched for a German version of "Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression, 1946". I have also come up dry. Is a possibly non-existant German text of Hans Frank's Diary required to prove/disprove that Hans Frank and the Nazis intended to wipe out the Jews living in Europe? Or would an English version suffice?
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Re: Hans Frank's Diary

Postby Hannover » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:06 pm)

James Dow wrote:Alright, so I understand that the burden of proof is upon me to provide the evidence. The problem is, I have vigorously searched for the diary under the German name for it, "Hans Frank Tagebuch" and have failed to locate it under Google Books and the Book Seller Bitz! I have also searched for a German version of "Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression, 1946". I have also come up dry. Is a possibly non-existant German text of Hans Frank's Diary required to prove/disprove that Hans Frank and the Nazis intended to wipe out the Jews living in Europe? Or would an English version suffice?

Thanks for your efforts.
The mere fact that we cannot actually see the authentic Hans Frank Diary is informative. Obviously it is being hidden away because it does not say what is alleged. If it did we'd being seeing it everywhere.

Have look at this by Dr. Faurisson:

A Challenge to David Irving
By Robert Faurisson
https://codoh.com/library/document/2089/?lang=en

Besides a thorough debunking of Irving's post suspicious early release from prison nonsense, there's some revealing information about this diary, the alleged translations and it's circumstances.

- Hannover

"at all times, Jews have disfigured the truth with absurd fables" ("de tout temps les Juifs ont défiguré la vérité par des fables absurdes")

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Re: Hans Frank's Diary

Postby EtienneSC » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:37 pm)

I'm not sure that Hans Frank's diary is exactly being "hidden away". it is unfortunate that it has not been published in full though, given how important it is. Parts of it were published in German as:
Deutsche Politik in Polen 1939-1945, Aus dem Diensttagebuch von Hans Frank Generalgouverneur.
Hrsg. Geiss, Jacobmeyer. Opladen: Leske, 1980.
According to this edition, there were 38 volumes containing 12,000 pages. It was used in the Nuremberg IMT trial and thereafter handed over to the Polish state. Some unbound parts have been lost. There are microfilm versions in Washington DC, Koblenz and Munich. Pages 110-112 of the above edition of the diary seem relevant to this thread.

Frank's son Niklas later famously denounced him in a book Der Vater (1993), which might contain apparently incriminating excerpts that we could discuss. I think it was translated into English.

I have not heard of anything other than excerpts being translated into English.

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Re: Hans Frank's Diary

Postby Hannover » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:47 pm)

Breker wrote:Mr. Dow,
We would be interested in knowing where you are getting your supposed English translations of his diary from. An unbiased source we would hope.
Also Sir, in using logic, wouldn't it be necessary to see some physical evidence of "systematic murder" before anyone could make such an assumption?
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Bingo!
Cutting to the chase, claims by Zionists about the Hans Frank diary simply cannot be supported by actual proof.
If what is alleged about the diary were true, we would be seeing massive, piles & piles of physical evidence. We have not, will not, and cannot see such proof because it never existed.
The entire matter is garbage in, garbage out.

And if the diary supported the fake 'holocaust' story we would at least be seeing actual copies of the diary pages to back up the claims. We do not.
I would never trust an alleged German text version which would be just as vulnerable to monkey business as an alleged English translation.
It's the original diary pages that must be seen. We will never see them.

Etienne:
It was used in the Nuremberg IMT trial and thereafter handed over to the Polish state.

Right. It was handed over to the communists for safe keeping. :roll:

Please actually read the contents of the link I posted, the IMT is discussed.
A Challenge to David Irving
By Robert Faurisson
https://codoh.com/library/document/2089/?lang=en
Frank's son Niklas later famously denounced him in a book Der Vater (1993), which might contain apparently incriminating excerpts that we could discuss. I think it was translated into English.
Seriously? He had little choice but to 'denounce' his father. And which version did the son actually see? The actual & real version? Somehow I don't think so.

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