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Deborah Lipstadt Lies About Bruno Tesch

Postby James Dow » 5 months 2 weeks ago (Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:49 pm)



At the 1:55 mark, Professor Lipstadt claims
In not one war crimes trial since the end of World War II has a perpetrator of any nationality ever said, "It didn't happen."


This is a bold-faced lie. According to "Case No.9, The Zyklon B; Case Trial Of Bruno Tesch And Two Others, British Military Court, Hamburg, 1st-8th March, 1946"
Before calling Tesch to the witness-box, his Counsel stated that he intended to prove to the court, first, that Tesch had no knowledge of the killing of human beings by means of Zyklon B;
What Deborah is saying and what this primary source document is saying are in direct conflict one with another. She is just full of hot air.


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Re: Deborah Lipstadt Lies About Bruno Tesch

Postby Hannover » 5 months 2 weeks ago (Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:28 pm)

Tons of Germans rejected the claims:

quora.com / Tim O'Neill: Nazis never denied 'holocaust' / WRONG
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8165

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Re: Deborah Lipstadt Lies About Bruno Tesch

Postby Dresden » 5 months 2 weeks ago (Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:32 pm)

James Dow wrote:

At the 1:55 mark, Professor Lipstadt claims
In not one war crimes trial since the end of World War II has a perpetrator of any nationality ever said, "It didn't happen."


This is a bold-faced lie. According to "Case No.9, The Zyklon B; Case Trial Of Bruno Tesch And Two Others, British Military Court, Hamburg, 1st-8th March, 1946"
Before calling Tesch to the witness-box, his Counsel stated that he intended to prove to the court, first, that Tesch had no knowledge of the killing of human beings by means of Zyklon B;
What Deborah is saying and what this primary source document is saying are in direct conflict one with another. She is just full of hot air.


Bruno Tesch didn't say "It didn't happen".....
His lawyer said that he(Tesch) had no knowledge of it.
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Re: Deborah Lipstadt Lies About Bruno Tesch

Postby Marley775 » 5 months 2 weeks ago (Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:49 pm)

One thing that I keep in mind about the Zyklon B case is that historians never elaborate on Tesch trial because it goes in contradiction with Höss testimony regarding the choice of Zyklon B as killing weapon.

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Re: Deborah Lipstadt Lies About Bruno Tesch

Postby James Dow » 5 months 2 weeks ago (Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:54 pm)

Bruno Tesch didn't say "It didn't happen"..... His lawyer said that he(Tesch) had no knowledge of it.
Fair point, Tesch did not say that it didn't happen. However, the full quote reads as follows
Before calling Tesch to the witness-box, his Counsel stated that he intended to prove to the court, first, that Tesch had no knowledge of the killing of human beings by means of Zyklon B ; secondly, that Zyklon B was delivered only for normal purposes of disinfection and for medical reasons ; thirdly, that parts of gas chambers were sold only for the purpose of exterminating vermin ; fourthly, that concentration camps got the gas only in amounts which were quite normal in relation to the number of inhabitants, and only for killing vermin ; and fifthly, that instruction courses were held only according to the relevant laws and regulations, and again only for the purpose of teaching the method of exterminating vermin.
According to this quote, Tesch didn't know about the "systematic gassings", Zyklon B was only used for disinfecting and for health, and they didn't get any more Zyklon B than normal. Although the lawyer of Tesch isn't technically saying on his behalf that it didn't happen, that is basically the effect of what he is saying.
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Re: Deborah Lipstadt Lies About Bruno Tesch

Postby Werd » 5 months 2 weeks ago (Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:45 pm)

Deborah Lipstadt claims he knew what was going on. Bruno's lawyer said he did not. So Deborah can't even get that part right. The lawyer spoke up and set it straight. Lipstadt either doesn't know the facts, or is covering them up. Either way you cut it, she is wrong.

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Re: Deborah Lipstadt Lies About Bruno Tesch

Postby borjastick » 5 months 2 weeks ago (Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:30 am)

Interesting that Lipstadt is playing with words. She's doing the weasel words game. She uses the word perpetrator advisedly me thinks. What does she mean by that word? Secondly notice how the Tesch statement does use the words gas chambers. Of course this refers to disinfection units which were well documented and pictured and used specifically for killing lice etc in clothing and bedding.

Tesch was not talking about the morgues which were claimed to have been turned into human gas chambers.
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Re: Deborah Lipstadt Lies About Bruno Tesch

Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 5 months 1 week ago (Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:10 pm)

If I remember correctly, when they executed Tesch, he had 5 kids.

James Dow: I like the stuff you are posting but can you give a better source? You gave:
Case No.9, The Zyklon B; Case Trial Of Bruno Tesch And Two Others, British Military Court, Hamburg, 1st-8th March, 1946"


How can I find that source to confirm? A link, a page number, or a day of the trial. Some identifying info. One reason I ask is as these threads are made, they also become an archive. Are you finding this at Yale University's Avalon Project? Just a way so that an outside observer can go to that very spot where you're quoting this.

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Re: Deborah Lipstadt Lies About Bruno Tesch

Postby James Dow » 5 months 1 week ago (Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:35 pm)

This is the document from which I obtained my information.
http://www.worldcourts.com/imt/eng/deci ... _Tesch.pdf
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Re: Deborah Lipstadt Lies About Bruno Tesch

Postby Marley775 » 5 months 1 week ago (Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:55 pm)

How can I find that source to confirm?


It may help:

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=w ... 4PgMSzhKrx

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Re: Deborah Lipstadt Lies About Bruno Tesch

Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 5 months 1 week ago (Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:11 am)

Thanks James, you're making some erudite points. Hopefully as you investigate this topic and notice things, we'll hear more, but also hope that you consider becoming active in helping us break the myth.

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Re: Deborah Lipstadt Lies About Bruno Tesch

Postby Hektor » 5 months 1 week ago (Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:30 pm)

Carto's Cutlass Supreme wrote:Thanks James, you're making some erudite points. Hopefully as you investigate this topic and notice things, we'll hear more, but also hope that you consider becoming active in helping us break the myth.

The trial document is quite interesting:
On that basis, the Zyklon B was going in vast quantities to the largest concentration camps in Germany east of the Elbe. In these same camps the S.S. Totenkopfverbande were, from 1942 to 1945, systematically exterminating human beings to an estimated total of six million, of whom four and a half million were exterminated by the use of Zyklon B in one camp alone, known as AuschwitzjBirkenau. In these concentration camps were a vast number of people from the...

Without anything resembling remotely an investigation they claim that six million people were exterminated of which 4.5 million were killed in Auschwitz using Zyklon B.

(i) Counsel for Tesch
Before calling Tesch to the witness-box, his Counsel stated that he intended to prove to the court, first, that Tesch had no knowledge of the killing of human beings by means of Zyklon B; secondly, that Zyklon B was delivered only for normal purposes of disinfection and for medical reasons ; thirdly, that parts of gas chambers were sold only for the purpose of exterminating vermin; fourthly, that concentration camps got the .gas only in amounts which were quite normal in relation to the number of inhabitants, and only for killing vermin; and fifthly, that instruction courses 'were held only according to the relevant laws and regulations, and again only for the purpose of teaching the method of exterminating vermin.

It seems Bruno Tesch and his defense counsel were one of the first Holocaust Revisionists.


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