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Witold Pilecki- Auschwitz Museum propaganda 25/5/2018

Postby Deitrich » 5 months 3 weeks ago (Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:44 pm)

RESPONSE TO AUSCHWITZ-MUSEUM OFFICIAL PAGE: 25-May-2018
https://www.facebook.com/auschwitzmemor ... 0026431097


Museum writes:
He was entered into the camp registry under the name Tomasz Serafiński, which he used in the conspiracy.


As an aside this happens to be an important phenomenon of certain groups of peoples changing their names both prior to, during and especially after the war.

Example: The former director of Israel's Holocaust Museum Yad Vashem. Born in Poland as Yitzak Rudnitski, spoke Yiddish. Emigrated to Palestine post-war and changed his name to a more middle Eastern sounding "Arad" and changed his language from the German based Yiddish to Hebrew.

In the book "The Death Camp Treblinka" by Alexander Donat (1979) starting on page 289 we see a table of the fate of the survivors. We see (a) they for the most part emigrated, (b) many changed their names to suit the location and it might be fair to assume their language.

The story of Pelecki was revived almost 70 years later in an article in German here.. https://www.welt.de/.../Der-Mann-der-freiwillig-nach...

The story is that he deliberately got himself arrested to be sent to Auschwitz under a false name so I believe (?) in order to infiltrate it. As the article indicates the report indicated is the "third" edition of the report in the Summer of 1945. (?).

A comparison of the 3 versions of the report would be useful.

Museum writes:
He was one of the founders of the camp resistance movement.


Among the most major roles of this resistance movement (which proved to be the most major role) was in "propaganda"- such as black atrocity propaganda stories. Some of these spinning mundane or even life saving/enhancing processes in the camp to something morbid, thus generating a kind of hysteria among inmates.

It could be hypothesised that this then served as a basis to fortify resolve of allied forces as well as create a blueprint for post war prosecution of the defeated power.

To see this read and source vett part 5 here http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/22-trcfa.pdf
Pages 533-634

^As an aside- this resistance movement seems instructive in coordinating the seeming "convergence" of independent accounts. See above.

Museum writes:
On the night of 26/27 April 1943, under the threat of being unmasked, Witold Pilecki along with two other colleagues escaped from the camp. In June 1943 while in hiding, he drew up a report that was subsequently forwarded to the General Headquarters of the Home Army.


Without any other evidence for the above scenario of escape it stands on party testimony alone.

A pre-planned arrest- then later escapes with 2 colleagues to tell the authorities terrible things happening in Auschwitz and offer a battle plan (allegedly rejected)....

From an officer tasked with making a report that has probative value, it might be expected something in a different style. It would be dry, but at least it would have a minimum of credibility. This Pilecki report seemed not. But the Polish Regime in Exile issues it as their official statement. No surprise this wasn't believed by educated people at the time. Due to that- that might explain why may have had to produce some other reports.

Interestingly, he admits to engaging in biological warfare:

Pilecki writes:
I still lived in block 25, room 7. To compare the state of the room with that of Christmas Eve, it had to be stated that many friends were alive no more. We were terribly done for by typhus. All around were ill. As little as several of us, old friends, held ourselves. Who went for typhus, he returned rarely. But also our little, bred louses were doing their job and typhus broke up also in the barracks of SS-men and an epidemic grew up. Doctors could hardly cope with Siberian typhus, but organisms of SS-men also. The ranks of SS-men suffered more and more losses. They were sent to the hospital in Katowice, where SS-men died in most cases.

https://archive.org/details/WITOLDREPORT

The first thing to note is the recurring theme of Typhus in the camp.

Second- This also matches up with what the Polish Secret Army was admitting to in a Report to the Western Allies:
https://archive.org/details/ReportFromP ... WarTwo1943

Museum writes:
In it, he described his experiences, underground activities and also included information on the terror prevailing in the camp, methods of killing prisoners, extermination of Poles, Soviet prisoners of war, extermination of Jews


The problem, is that the released inmates in 1943 did not mention such things (?)

An examination of some of the claims in these report(s) is interesting.

Pilecki writes:
The old crematorium was not able to burn dead bodies from our central camp in addition to dead bodies from Rajsko (the chimney erected in 1940 had split and got shattered by continuous vapours out of the dead bodies. A new one was erected). So the dead bodies were buried in wide trenches, with the help of commandos composed of Jews. Two new crematoriums of electric combustion were being erected in a hurry in Birkenau.
Technical specifications were done in the construction office. By words of a colleague from that office, each crematorium had eight stands, two corpses to be put into each stand. Three-minute electric combustion. Plans were sent to Berlin. Upon confirmation, they returned with an order to complete, initially until February the first, then the time limit was prolonged up to March the first - and in March they were ready. Then the factory began to operate at full capacity…


“Eight stands” in each crematoria is historically unfounded and a “Three-minute electric combustion” is neither historically founded but also physically and technically wrong. Which is probably why these parts of his report are not highlighted and quietly dropped from his account.

You can find this in an English version of his report here.. https://archive.org/details/WITOLDREPORT

^Just access the text file, select all and use the search tool for "electric", it's about halfway down the report.

These are just a couple of the wild claims in this report which at the time they were written were not coordinated as they would be after the war in Poland by the Soviet's. The report is riddled with them, strongly indicative of an intention in line with his propaganda activities as part of the resistance. Which is conceivably why the released inmates did not mention these things either.

This is not to put Pilecki down- he was a Polish patriot and it was his duty to fight the German's any way he could do so.

....

Regarding the Warsaw uprising and the post-war conflict of propaganda and at times physical hostilities between the Polish and another people- no contribution is necessary at this time.

To summarise the most important activity of the underground resistance in general, again see here... http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/22-trcfa.pdf. Pages 533-634

And for Pilecki himself it's the report itself juxtaposed to physical, technical and historiogrpahic considerations juxtaposed to the official version today of events.



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Re: Witold Pilecki- Auschwitz Museum propaganda 25/5/2018

Postby Hannover » 5 months 3 weeks ago (Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:27 pm)

Well done, Deitrich.

It's clear that the more the "Holocaust Industry" talks the worse it becomes for them.
After all, so called "holocaust eyewitnesses" making absurd, impossible, and contradictory claims are not the exception, but the rule.

Lots more on the ridiculous Pilecki here:

Witold Pilecki
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8078

Witold Pilecki / Auschwitz spy, said 5 mil died there, etc.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2489&hilit=hannover+pilecki

Andrew Mathis attempts damage control on gassing lies
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2498

Cheers, Hannover

Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the ridiculous 'holocaust' storyline is the message.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: Witold Pilecki- Auschwitz Museum propaganda 25/5/2018

Postby Hektor » 5 months 3 weeks ago (Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:56 pm)

Deitrich wrote:RESPONSE TO AUSCHWITZ-MUSEUM OFFICIAL PAGE: 25-May-2018
https://www.facebook.com/auschwitzmemor ... 0026431097

....
Interestingly, he admits to engaging in biological warfare:

Pilecki writes:
I still lived in block 25, room 7. To compare the state of the room with that of Christmas Eve, it had to be stated that many friends were alive no more. We were terribly done for by typhus. All around were ill. As little as several of us, old friends, held ourselves. Who went for typhus, he returned rarely. But also our little, bred louses were doing their job and typhus broke up also in the barracks of SS-men and an epidemic grew up. Doctors could hardly cope with Siberian typhus, but organisms of SS-men also. The ranks of SS-men suffered more and more losses. They were sent to the hospital in Katowice, where SS-men died in most cases.

https://archive.org/details/WITOLDREPORT

The first thing to note is the recurring theme of Typhus in the camp.

Second- This also matches up with what the Polish Secret Army was admitting to in a Report to the Western Allies:
https://archive.org/details/ReportFromP ... WarTwo1943

Museum writes:
In it, he described his experiences, underground activities and also included information on the terror prevailing in the camp, methods of killing prisoners, extermination of Poles, Soviet prisoners of war, extermination of Jews

....

That's something I noticed as well. The "underground" engaged in biological warfare using typhus lice to spread the disease. It's however difficult to target with that, since the lice will spread and inevitably infect other people as well.

On the SS rubbing their hands, because typhus killed prisoners. So why then the use of shower rooms and (delousing )gas chambers employing Zyklon B as means to kill lice? And hence to prevent Typhus in the prisoners?! They of course will flip-flop this and say this was only to protect the Germans, hoping to omit that Zyklon B actually had a legitimate purpose in healthcare for prisoners.

[Siberian typhus]

The Bolsheviks left louses and terrible Siberian typhus, from which our colleagues began
to suffer in mass. The typhus took the camp and was making a huge devastation. The
authorities rubbed their hands, quietly contemplating that ally in doing prisoners away.
Then we began, in HKB laboratory, to rear typhus louses and to set them free upon
overcoats of SS-men, during each report and inspections of our blocks.


According to the report there was a hospital as well:
Two times there was a change of numbers necessary for us, which was done smoothly
and with no harm to anybody. In the time of high mortality out of typhus, when dead bodies
were thrown out from several blocks in mass, we rescued two our men introduced to the
hospital block, who were charged serious cases, by writing their numbers on dead bodies
and giving the numbers of those dead bodies to them, while taking care if cases of those
dead ones in the political department were not too serious. We succeeded to place them,
equipped with suddenly changed public register data, surnames, names (given by
colleagues from the main chancellery) in Birkenau just from the hospital. They were still
unknown there, new numbers, zugangs, the case got slurred and it was fully successful.


Prisoners were given a typhus vaccine:
[Typhus]

Typhus was a malicious nuisance and a de-lousing was done in the barracks of SS-men.
In our blocks people fell ill. In our room (the 7th room of the 25th block) every day
someone went to hospital, suffering of typhus. In that time we already had one bed for
each two of us.

From our bunch, officer-cadett 94 fell ill first, then corporal 91, then 71, then 73 and 95,
111 with whom I slept in one bed, 93, in the end (now it is difficult to remember who went
to the hospital after whom) nearly all colleagues passed the hospital. Many of them did not
return at all, carried away in a cart full of dead bodies, which went to the crematorium.
Every day, several familiar faces could be seen among the dead bodies of prisoners,
packed as if wood in the cart.
Until then, typhus did not catch me.

Doctor Z arrived to me and proposed an anti-typhus injection, he received the vaccine
"from freedom", in secret. But I had to think over what to do, because if I had already been
bitten by typhus louses (it might be supposed, as I slept together with 111, who had fallen
ill already, while usually ten to twenty days passed between the bite and the fever), then in
such case I must not have applied the vaccine as it could result in death. Nevertheless I
was not infected, so I decided to take the vaccine injection.



From our bunch, which used to stand in the head of the block on roll-calls, seven or eight
people left out of thirty. The rest died of typhus. Out of our workers, the following died: the
brave "Wernyhora" - 50, and also 53, 54, 58, 71, 73, 91, 94, 126 and my much regretted
friend 30. Anyway, may I write of anybody as of the "most regretted" - I regretted all of
them. I tried very much to rescue captain 30. He was always joyful, he kept up the spirits
of people by his own good humour and a dish of additional food, many people lived around
him. Just before the typhus he suddenly got a blood infection, which it was possible to
remove quickly: doctor 2 quickly made an operation of his arm and removed the danger. A
week later he got typhus, went to block 28, where, while in bed for several days, he invited
colleagues to come and eat titbits carried for him from the "canada". He spoke aloud: "God
made it, that good people delivered them, so please eat!" He had a high temperature and
despite that he continued to talk, narrated with humour that that he had to live on, that he
would go out of Oswiecim even if with his head under his arm, as he passed terrible things
in Hamburg and he would meet his Jasia.


All in all I don't really think this report helps exterminationists a lot.


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