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No non jewish witnesses to genocide?

Postby borjastick » 2 weeks 3 days ago (Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:53 am)

For some time, but more and more recently, with some comments made on other topis here, I have been concerned that, given how many non jews were in and died in the camps, we have very few if any non jewish witnesses to the holocaust.

Given that officially more Catholics than jews died in Auschwitz why are there no non jewish witnesses to what was apparently so visible and understood by the jews?

Perhaps there were many more witness statements made on record somewhere else and perhaps they are ignored by the mainstream holocaust machine because they don't forward the jewish sufferink in the holocaust, but I would like to read and learn more about what non jews saw, heard about and thought was happening in the camps where mass murder was supposed to have happened.

Surely if Catholics and other Christians were there in large numbers, as we know as a fact, then they must have had something to say about it.

Can anyone here point me in the right direction of a book or other documented non jewish witnesses to gas chambers and six million deaths in the camps?


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Re: No non jewish witnesses to genocide?

Postby Hektor » 2 weeks 3 days ago (Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:39 am)

There is a list of witnesses for the Frankfurt Auschwitz Trial including non-Jews. Gas chambers are mentioned in passing in some of the testimony. While most seem to have heard of it, but not witnessed it themselves. Claude Lanzmann has several non-Jewish witnesses as well, but again most of them are just side shows. As for famous Polish "witnesses to the Holocaust", Jan Karski comes to mind, but I think he never claimed to have been in Auschwitz. He also is an apparent liar like many of the key witnesses. Just listen to those guys, leaving the issue itself on the side for a while, you can clearly hear they are the kind that "lie on demand" and they are storytellers loving their own ability to do so.

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Re: No non jewish witnesses to genocide?

Postby Hannover » 2 weeks 3 days ago (Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:58 pm)

Hektor wrote:There is a list of witnesses for the Frankfurt Auschwitz Trial including non-Jews. Gas chambers are mentioned in passing in some of the testimony. While most seem to have heard of it, but not witnessed it themselves. Claude Lanzmann has several non-Jewish witnesses as well, but again most of them are just side shows. As for famous Polish "witnesses to the Holocaust", Jan Karski comes to mind, but I think he never claimed to have been in Auschwitz. He also is an apparent liar like many of the key witnesses. Just listen to those guys, leaving the issue itself on the side for a while, you can clearly hear they are the kind that "lie on demand" and they are storytellers loving their own ability to do so.

"While most seem to have heard of it, but not witnessed it themselves."

Funny how that works considering the gas chambers are simply impossible as alleged. Reminds me of the many Germans at Nuremberg who tellingly never heard of 'gas chambers', 'exterminations', etc until after the war.

- There was / is also the pressure put upon everyone to say what conforms to the Jew propaganda that was / is widely circulated, aka: the herd mentality. Propaganda of any kind relies upon it.

- And then, there may well be simply tons of non-Jews that reject the false gas chambers claims, but their statements / views are simply not published in mostly Jew written 'history' books, etc. 'If you don't hear about it, then it never happened'.

- Another huge factor is that they would be arrested or severely persecuted in the countries where they reside if they spoke up.
Below is where free speech on the impossible 'holocaust' storyline is illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes.
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Re: No non jewish witnesses to genocide?

Postby Hektor » 2 weeks 3 days ago (Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:30 pm)

Hannover wrote:
Hektor wrote:There is a list of ....hear they are the kind that "lie on demand" and they are storytellers loving their own ability to do so.

"While most seem to have heard of it, but not witnessed it themselves."

Funny how that works considering the gas chambers are simply impossible as alleged. Reminds me of the many Germans at Nuremberg who tellingly never heard of 'gas chambers', 'exterminations', etc until after the war.

- There was / is also the pressure put upon everyone to say what conforms to the Jew propaganda that was / is widely circulated, aka: the herd mentality. Propaganda of any kind relies upon it.
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The "most" was already from a selection of people present there. And as said. By 1960 most grown ups in Germany, Poland and other relevant countries would have heard about the rumors already. At least that's very likely. Several Frankfurt Auschwitz Trial witnesses made it however pretty clear that they didn't know anything whatsoever about homicidal gassings at the time. Among those were the Adjudant Mulka and Joachim Caesar who was the highest ranking SS-member in Auschwitz at the time (although not involved in the management of the camp itself). He stayed in Auschwitz with his family was well.

Whenever someone invokes witness testimony for homicidal gassings or an extermination program, point them to the fact that the vast majority of would be witnesses didn't know anything at all at the time and this is the reason why the Germans in general didn't know anything about any extermination whatsoever. They will have known about deportations, concentration camps, and the general measures regarding the Jews. Perhaps even something about occasional executions, but nothing about homicidal gassings. Using Occams Razor witness testimony supports the Revisionist Thesis, not the Exterminationist one. I'm still surprised that people assume that testimony is on the side of the Holocaust, when it actually isn't.

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Re: No non jewish witnesses to genocide?

Postby borjastick » 2 weeks 3 days ago (Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:43 pm)

I'm talking about the many tens of thousands of Christians in the camps like Auschwitz and Majdanek who, in theory, would have had just as much knowledge of the gas chambers and mass murder, cremations supposedly going on, but who don't seem to have said a lot about it if it were the case. I accept that openly denouncing it as false in many countries would be illegal today but in the seventies and eighties or earlier those run-of-the-mill prisoners who were there when it was claimed to be fully happening don't seem to have said much in support of it.

If there were a few dozen Catholic Poles supporting the gas chamber story, because they were there, it would be an interesting turn of witness input but that never seems to be the case. Seems the only ones who knew it was or wasn't happening were the jews.

Maybe non jews were part of a memory programme which would allow them to survive but not remember anything at all about 4m jews being lamp shaded at Auschwitz!
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Re: No non jewish witnesses to genocide?

Postby Mortimer » 2 weeks 3 days ago (Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:28 pm)

Andrey Pogozhev was a Soviet POW & inmate at Auschwitz - Birkenau. He claims to have witnessed the work of sonderkommandos. He still refers to 4 million victims even though the plaque with that number was removed by the camp directors. Review of his book Escape from Auschwitz by Panagiotis Heliotis -
http://www.inconvenienthistory.com/10/2/5506


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