Zuckerberg: Facebook will not ban Holocaust denial / but sister Randi promotes law against free speech

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Re: Lazy Katie Gibbons and Zuckerberg:

Postby Hektor » 2 years 2 months ago (Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:31 pm)

David M wrote:The Katie Gibbons article in the Time London should be reviewed by every Revisionist as a textbook propaganda smear.

It is a conflation of images designed to promote censorship of Revisionist scholarship.
Gibbons never gives a definition of Revisionism or discusses what Revisionists say. She relies on the comments from Dave Rich, a self-appointed expert on "Anti-Semitism" who declares that Holocaust denial (aka Revisionism) is "by its definition... antisemitic." Mr. Rich goes on to claim that "the whole point of it is to incite hatred against Jews by claiming the Holocaust is a conspiracy."
Gibbons also quotes Karen Pollock of the Holocaust Education Trust who claims that
not believing is an "incitement to hate.".....


They are muddying the waters and set the playing field in a way that their opponents are demonized and look like some evil people. To do this they will employ cherry-picking and setting up straw men, which they then can knock down. Guilty by Association is also part of the tactic. Interestingly they do exactly what they accuse "Anti-semites" of.

I guess one has to resort to that kind of tactics, if one can not come up with something of scientific value (which employs empirical evidence and rationality to come to valid conclusions).

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Re: Zuckerberg: Facebook will not ban Holocaust denial / but sister Randi promotes law against free speech

Postby Pia Kahn » 2 years 2 months ago (Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:04 am)

Zuckerberg is taking more FLAK from the Jewish Post for stating that holocaust deniers may just be getting it wrong:

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/No-HOLDS- ... ial-563793

It is the same slander over and over again:

"The founder of Facebook, who is obviously a brilliant man, expressed the shockingly naive idea that Holocaust deniers do not “intentionally” get it wrong.

Yes, they do.

Holocaust deniers know exactly what they are doing. They are trying to convince people that the Holocaust was a hoax or that there were no gas chambers or that the number of Jews who were murdered is exaggerated. These are intentional lies meant to offend; and while they may not advocate it, their Jew-hatred can incite violence. "

Not believing in a historical event is neither jew-hatred nor does it incite violence. But, the Jerusalem post is not satisfied with posting a single article on the holocaust. No, here is a second article essentially stating the same thing:

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/ON-MY-MIN ... ial-563792

However, this article is directed to several politicians who appear to doubt the holocaust:

"John Fitzgerald, the Republican candidate for a US House of Representative seat from a district in the San Francisco area, is offering a $2,000 reward to anyone who agrees with and can substantiate his contention that the Holocaust is a fabrication. ..."

"In Illinois, Arthur Jones, another declared Holocaust denier and a former leader of the American Nazi Party, is the Republican candidate for a House seat from Chicago. He won the Illinois primary in March unopposed. ..."

"Back in California, Senator Diane Feinstein is facing a challenge from Patrick Little, a declared neo-Nazi endorsed by David Duke, the former KKK leader. The California Republican Party has disavowed Little, too..."

However, eventually the article turns to Zuckerberg. This is what is supposed to be done against holocaust denial on facebook:

"Yair Rosenberg recommends posting a surgeon-general type of warning instead of simply removing the objectionable content...

Rosenberg suggests that Facebook place prominent disclaimers warning readers that the pages promote denial of the Holocaust, and then refer people to the websites of Yad Vashem and the US Holocaust Memorial Museum."

I really don't know what to say, this is so absurd.
If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

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25 Holocaust experts call for censorship on Facebook.

Postby Pia Kahn » 2 years 2 months ago (Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:15 am)

The holocaust industry is scarred stiff about holocaust denial on facebook. Around 25 holocaust experts from around the world have written this letter to Mark Zuckerberg:

https://www.aegistrust.org/wp-content/u ... erberg.pdf

The holocaust industry is for freedom of speech, BUT...

"We sympathise with your stated desire to bolster freedom of speech, even to those whose views
you personally find abhorrent. We also salute your recognition that there may be varying kinds of intent
in the hearts and minds of those who post such views on Facebook - including those you were
quoted as saying may innocently be “getting a few things wrong”."

Do they really sympathize or are they lying through their teeth? Let's see:

"Yet Facebook must not allow complete and utter falsehoods about the Holocaust, and about the
Jewish people, to go systematically unchecked. Virulent antisemitism is a proven pathway that leads
from rhetorical hatred to actions of violence. Freedom of speech laws are not a reason to do nothing
— inaction is always the opportunity for evil to flourish.
All genocide starts with distortion of the truth and prejudice..."

O.K. I expect to see the desecration of Jewish graves in the future or other false flag operations in order to promote their cause of censorship. This is how amazon was pressured to stop CODOH from selling books on Amazon. Watch this if you don't believe me:

http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php ... =150#watch

So how does the holocaust industry want to control facebook?

"Since Facebook runs across the national borders which constitute society, we beseech you to work
with us to protect society against one of the longest and darkest hatreds which, in the space of just
three generations, is seriously beginning to threaten it once again.

We offer you tangible, rapidly executable steps towards Facebook becoming part of the solution.
We can deliver proven educational resources in multiple languages, ready for digital deployment with
Facebook — important as you may wish to break the task down by different jurisdictions with different
laws. We can offer cost-free professional development programs for educators on Facebook to
give them resources, skills and confidence to tackle hate and prejudice, and to teach empathy, understanding
and respect. And we have thousands of shareable stories that reveal the personal dimension
of hate-based violence and the inspiring people who have stood up against it — some in
interactive format. ..."

The truth must be protected againist "hatred" and "genocide". I have to admire them for their sly tactics and verbiage. I have no respect for these "holocaust experts" who have museums, libararies, government funding, hollywood-movies and million dollar budgets in order to promote their version of history. But, they fear to debate a ragtag group of hounded and defamed revisionists who are virtually without any resources and have but one weapon, their words.
If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

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Re: Zuckerberg: Facebook will not ban Holocaust denial / but sister Randi promotes law against free speech

Postby Spect3r » 2 years 2 months ago (Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:08 am)

As i said couple weeks ago, this will end up with USA making laws against Holocaust Denial... just watch.
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Re: Zuckerberg: Facebook will not ban Holocaust denial / but sister Randi promotes law against free speech

Postby Pia Kahn » 2 years 2 months ago (Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:51 am)

That's what Zuckerberg's sister wants. We can only hope that the supreme court declares such a law unconstitutional.

The war against free speech is now in full swing. Zuckerberg's Facebook, youtube and a few other Internet platforms have colluded to completely delete Alex Jones "infowars" from their sites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HijA05tmctc
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Re: Zuckerberg: Facebook will not ban Holocaust denial / but sister Randi promotes law against free speech

Postby Breker » 2 years 2 months ago (Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:25 am)

"The Holocaust Industry" speaks:
We offer you tangible, rapidly executable steps towards Facebook becoming part of the solution.
We can deliver proven educational resources in multiple languages, ready for digital deployment with
Facebook — important as you may wish to break the task down by different jurisdictions with different
laws. We can offer cost-free professional development programs for educators on Facebook to
give them resources, skills and confidence to tackle hate and prejudice, and to teach empathy, understanding
and respect. And we have thousands of shareable stories that reveal the personal dimension
of hate-based violence and the inspiring people who have stood up against it — some in
interactive format. ..."
"Cost free" it is not. ALL the undersigned and many, many more, receive massive amount of taxpayers money, so it's the taxpayer that would be footing the bill for their lies and assaults upon free speech.

"Hate-based violence" only to arrogant Zionists. In fact it is their hateful and violent lies about the Germans and all those who supposedly assisted in the false 6,000,000 Jews that goes ignored. In their demented minds they can spew their hate and incite violence, while falsely claiming gentiles are the guilty party. We rather think that is called 'projection'.

And this, but one example out of the very many, is what they are really worried about, posted previously:
US "Holocaust" Memorial Museum
Tax exempt cash taken in by USHMM, aka: ‘Holocau$t’ Theme Park, for fiscal year 2016 which supports huge salaries for Jews only, which most of the remaining money goes to Jews & Zionist organizations:
$151,826,695.00
$151,826,695.00
https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/042717-IRS ... 0-FY16.pdf

US taxpayers money to the USHMM in the 2017 budget:
56,999,500.00
https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/20160209-f ... equest.pdf
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Revisionists are just the messengers, the impossibility of the "Holocaust" narrative is the message.

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Re: 25 Holocaust experts call for censorship on Facebook.

Postby JLAD Prove Me Wrong » 1 year 3 months ago (Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:10 pm)

Pia Kahn wrote:Around 25 holocaust experts from around the world have written this letter to Mark Zuckerberg:


These circus ringleaders who want you and me in jail for denying the Holocaust are most certainly ticked off at Zuckerberg for either being ignorant in relation to how Jewish supremacism is tightly connected to the holocaust myth, or reading comments and dismissing them without thinking the people who wrote them are bad or National Socialists.

Full text https://www.aegistrust.org/wp-content/u ... erberg.pdf

The Industry wrote:Mark Zuckerberg Esq
CEO
Facebook Inc
1 Hacker Way, Menlo Park
CA 94025
USA
7 August 2018


Dear Mr Zuckerberg

HOLOCAUST DENIAL: ACTION PLAN FOR FACEBOOK

We write with an offer of help in these troubled times, and specifically in relation to the attached story run by The Times of London on Friday July 27, 2018.

We sympathise with your stated desire to bolster freedom of speech, even to those whose views you personally find abhorrent. We also salute your recognition that there may be varying kinds of intent in the hearts and minds of those who post such views on Facebook - including those you were quoted as saying may innocently be “getting a few things wrong”.

Yet Facebook must not allow complete and utter falsehoods about the Holocaust, and about the Jewish people, to go systematically unchecked. Virulent antisemitism is a proven pathway that leads from rhetorical hatred to actions of violence. Freedom of speech laws are not a reason to do nothing — inaction is always the opportunity for evil to flourish.

All genocide starts with distortion of the truth and prejudice. Ignorance and lack of education permit this and, according to the Antidefamation League, are the dominant source of antisemitic views. We cannot ignore the rising number of violent antisemitic attacks in the UK, France and other European countries. In the UK alone, The Guardian newspaper reported a 34% rise in 2017 in violent assaults against Jewish people, and the number has risen again in 2018.

No society can afford to ignore, hide or bury antisemitism if it wishes to remain civilised. History proves that it is the canary in the coal mine; the first unravelling of a society’s moral fabric. During World War II, it was the first rung on the ladder of prejudice and discrimination that led to genocide — first against Jews and then other groups including political opponents, homosexuals, Roma and Sinti people. Hatred of one group within society leads to hatred of others.

Since Facebook runs across the national borders which constitute society, we beseech you to work with us to protect society against one of the longest and darkest hatreds which, in the space of just three generations, is seriously beginning to threaten it once again.

We offer you tangible, rapidly executable steps towards Facebook becoming part of the solution. We can deliver proven educational resources in multiple languages, ready for digital deployment with Facebook — important as you may wish to break the task down by different jurisdictions with different laws. We can offer cost-free professional development programs for educators on Facebook to give them resources, skills and confidence to tackle hate and prejudice, and to teach empathy, understanding and respect. And we have thousands of shareable stories that reveal the personal dimension of hate-based violence and the inspiring people who have stood up against it — some interactive format.

We therefore invite you to join us in a face to face meeting, at a location of your choosing, to scope a specific and bespoke education program, aimed at raising Holocaust awareness and acceptance within the Facebook community.

Powered by the good ethics and willing of you and your team, and the primary research, educational tools, creative resources and survivor testimony of our global Holocaust expert network — we can together help those who are “getting a few things wrong” to get a few things right.

We will contact your office to set something up.

Yours sincerely

Henry Grunwald OBE QC, Chairman
UK National Holocaust Centre And Museum

Dr James Smith, Co Founder & President
UK National Holocaust Centre And Museum

Laura Marks OBE, Chairperson
UK Holocaust Memorial Day Trust

Sir Ben Helfgott MBE, Honorary President
UK Holocaust Memorial Day Trust

Professor Stuart Foster, Executive Director,
UCL Centre for Holocaust Education

Paul Phillips, Chairman
UK Holocaust Educational Trust

Diane Lees - Director General
Imperial War Museums UK

Ben Barkow, Director
The Wiener Library for the Study of the
Holocaust and Genocide

Simon Bentley - Chairman
Yad Vashem UK

Stephen D. Smith - Executive Director
USC Shoah Foundation

Samuel H Asher - Executive Director
Virginia Holocaust Museum

Susan Abrams - Chief Executive Officer
Illinois Holocaust Museum & Education
Center

Dr Dariusz Stola - POLIN Museum of the
History of Polish Jews

Professor Peter Schäfer - Director
Jewish Museum Berlin

Dara Solomon - Executive Director
Sarah and Chaim Neuberger Holocaust
Education Centre, Toronto

Jakub Nowakowski - Director, Galicia Jewish Museum, Krakow

Pauline Rockman OAM, Co President
Jewish Holocaust Centre Melbourne

Suzanne Hampel OAM, Co President
Jewish Holocaust Centre Melbourne

Gavin Morris - Director
South African Jewish Museum

Tali Nates - Founder and Director
Johannesburg Holocaust Museum

Richard Freedman, Director
Cape Town Holocaust & Genocide Centre

Michael Newman -
Association of Jewish Refugees

Mary Kluk, Director
Durban Holocaust & Genocide Centre

Carlos Reiss, General Director
Museo do Holocausto de Curitiba, Brazil

Glen Steinman, Co Chairman
Hong Kong Holocaust and Tolerance Centre
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Re: Zuckerberg: Facebook will not ban Holocaust denial / but sister Randi promotes law against free speech

Postby Hannover » 1 year 3 months ago (Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:36 am)

It would be interesting to see the exact amount of the huge salaries each of those who signed this letter receive.
A letter which is actually an admission that they are promoting lies. Those who have truth on their side welcome free speech.
Only lies require censorship.

related:
There are over 100 "Holocaust" related "museums" in the US alone, all receive US taxpayer funding for an overwhelmingly highly paid Jew staff.

Facts about one of them, the so called 'US 'Holocaust' Memorial Museum:

Tax exempt cash taken in by USHMM, aka: ‘Holocau$t’ Theme Park, for fiscal year 2016 which supports huge salaries for Jews only, with most of the remaining money going to Jews & their Zionist organizations:
$151,826,695.00 : https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/042717-IRS ... 0-FY16.pdf
US taxpayers money to the USHMM in the 2017 budget:
56,999,500.00: https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/20160209-f ... equest.pdf

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it"

- Upton Sinclair

- Hannover

No alleged human remains of millions upon millions to be seen in allegedly known locations, no 'holocaust'.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.


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