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Now we know why Jews made handprints in gas chamber walls...

Postby Werd » 1 week 4 days ago (Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:37 am)

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... .html#more

Because apparently, the walls were not made of concrete as Germar Rudolf incorrectly believed.

Let's take a look at his arguments.
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This is footage taken after the liberation of Paris of an alleged Gestapo Torture Chamber near the Eiffel Tower. In the description, we read:

“World War II interiors of gas chamber used by the Germans in the execution of prisoners. Demonstrating method of securing prisoners in gas chambers. Various Close-ups, pipes leading into room.”

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“hand prints and scratches dug into cement wall of gas chamber by the victims.”
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Here are the handprints in the cement, allegedly created by gassing victims during their death throes. Needless to say, handprints can only be made in fresh mortar, and only insane people would use a room as an execution chamber whose walls had just been plastered.

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2. Case in point: the handprints on the wall. The description claims they are in cement. Rudolf runs with this. He never asks: how does the author of the description even know that? Does the footage claim this? Of course not. It's just what some incompetent archive employee wrote, nothing more. This has zero bearing on the interpretation of the footage itself.

Indeed, had Rudolf done even minuscule research, he would have found that the handprints were in the asbestos layer which covered the wall in order to make it sound-proof (makes sense at a shooting range, no?).

Adam Rayski, author of the small book Au stand de tir. Le massacre des résistants. Paris 1942–1944, quotes from the report by the police commissar Henri Danty dated August 31, 1944, shortly after the liberation of Paris:
Behind the premises of the Ministry of Air, Boulevard Victor in Paris XV arrondissement, there are two shooting ranges, one 200 meter long, the other 50 meter long.
Yesterday the Air Force unit occupying the premises under the command of Commander Marette conducted excavations at the first range and has already exhumed 4 voluminous coffins appearing to contain several bodies each.
The second range was the place of execution and I made the following observations:
At the firing point and over a length of ten meters, and over their entire height, the walls are lined with a thick layer of asbestos and exhibit hundreds of hand prints up to the height of 2,5m.
This part of the range appears to have been closed by a partition isolating it from the rest of the range.
It is impossible to imagine after what tortures the people who were brought there jumped against the wall and left the imprint of their hands in the asbestos.
At the firing slope there are 3 execution posts bearing countless bullet marks; one of them is cut in half by bullets. On these posts hang the bands and the ropes intended for the tortured [...]
It is urgent to proceed with methodical excavations in the ground of these ranges and also to explore the nearby maneuvering area and the sewers, as it is likely that many corpses are buried there.
I think I have to suggest that, in the aftermath of the incredible atrocities that probably occurred in these places, it would probably be appropriate to invite a neutral body to attend the findings.

Already from the first newspaper items about this wall the matter is clear, they talk of the asbestos-covered wall or "a wall covered with a thick, fibre-like material"

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Combat, 31.08.1944, p. 2.

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Sunday Times (Perth, WA), 03.09.1944, p.2.

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Beckley Post-Herald, 20.09.1944

Same was mentioned in some of the "newsreels" in which the footage was used.



What kind of measures were applied to the people in this room is a matter of a debate, but it is a secondary issue in the context of Rudolf's methodology, so we will just state that there is zero evidence of fakery as far as the handprints are concerned, and leave it at that.

An asbestos layer? A soft fibre like material? Not concrete? Interesting. So is this credible, codoh? I honestly don't know what to think about this. Did Sergy Romanov completely miss the part in the Perth Sunday Times article which talked about the electrocution method of killing Jews? Something that had been previously debunked regarding Belzec and Auschwitz? So we should we believe this nonsense happened in France?

"The Germans first lashed their victims to an iron grille against a wall covered with a thick, fibre like material. They then turned on the electric current. There were hundreds of handprints dug deep into the wall covering, among them being deep, irregular holes which might have come from the heavy knotted ends of German whips."

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Re: Now we know why Jews made handprints in gas chamber walls...

Postby Hannover » 1 week 4 days ago (Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:50 am)

Hilarous, and oh so desperate.

The typically incompetent Sergey Romanov is simply savaged. Notice what Sergey Romanov lies about and then ignores the other irrefutable points made by Rudolf:
Probing the Holocaust, The Horror Explained, By Germar Rudolf
https://codoh.com/library/document/4056/?lang=en

So now the alleged & impossible 'homicidal gas gas chambers' were in Paris? Yet the Industry claims that all gas chambers were in Poland.
Yet there is no such asbestos claims for the alleged & impossible gas chambers in Poland where millions are impossibly said to have been gassed.

The "Holocau$t Industry's" Sergey Romanov craps out again.

More examples of Sergey Romanov's belief in the absurd:

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=481

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=3354

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3525

- Hannover

No massive human remains as alleged, no 'holocaust'. The claimed '6M Jews & 5M others' is one helluva a lot of human remains to just 'disappear'. That's the size of the population of London.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: Now we know why Jews made handprints in gas chamber walls...

Postby Deitrich » 1 week 3 days ago (Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:24 pm)

Werd's presentation is self refuting on account of it's absurdity.

If this is the level of blown cover they adopt now, Sergey et al might as well start proclaiming their CODOH allegience publicly.

Not a single person on the face of this Earth could possibly accept what Werd has delivered here as valid.

Quite clearly the "report" was issues once the propagadists realised how absurd their first effort is. Subsequently their later efforts got progressively (first Buchenwald and then Dachau finally) but only marginally better.

It is not believable that the German's would gas people in this room layered with asbestos and allow them to leave handprint evidence everywhere. Nor fix it up immediately afterwards if it conceivably had occurred.
It is not believable that this really was an asbestos wall by simply looking at the footage of it.
Nor that people en mass could leave perfect handprints in the wall.
It is not believable in the slightest that the room was ever used as a gas chamber on account of the windows, huge area and not in the slightest air tight or secure and so on, as evidenced by the film.
If the victims were restrained as alleged, how could they have achieved it?
If the victims really were scratching for their life against said wall- they would not leave obviously propaganda, perfectly formed open handprints.
And then later, the propagandists "demonstrate" what the victims did by putting their hands all over the "asbestos"- sure.
The claim is officially dropped, i.e. no longer claimed to have been truthful.

Then there's the ad-homenim attack against Rudolf- whom has never convincingly been refuted on a single point to my knowledge against Sergey who has never survived on a single point to my knowledge- even dismissed by the very industry he claims to support.

This motif about the handprints later became a slightly more believable motif involving "scratches" (also absurd) at later places.

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Re: Now we know why Jews made handprints in gas chamber walls...

Postby Turpitz » 2 days 8 hours ago (Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:43 am)

Case in point: the handprints on the wall. The description claims they are in cement. Rudolf runs with this. He never asks: how does the author of the description even know that?


Nearly everything I have seen of the buildings the mortars are lime-based, not cement based. Even then, lime based renders and mortars, when hardened, would be impossible to print with your hand. Why do you think they used lime-based renders traditionally, because they made a strong hard covering to the underlying masonary that was tough, hard-wearing and could tolerate a lot of abuse without being marked.

I have never known asbestos being used in its fibrous state. it is usually set with cement and left to harden where it was traditionally used as sheeting, and it goes hard as iron once set.

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Re: Now we know why Jews made handprints in gas chamber walls...

Postby Deitrich » 1 day 14 hours ago (Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:59 am)

Turpitz wrote:
Case in point: the handprints on the wall. The description claims they are in cement. Rudolf runs with this. He never asks: how does the author of the description even know that?


Nearly everything I have seen of the buildings the mortars are lime-based, not cement based. Even then, lime based renders and mortars, when hardened, would be impossible to print with your hand. Why do you think they used lime-based renders traditionally, because they made a strong hard covering to the underlying masonary that was tough, hard-wearing and could tolerate a lot of abuse without being marked.

I have never known asbestos being used in its fibrous state. it is usually set with cement and left to harden where it was traditionally used as sheeting, and it goes hard as iron once set.


The point where Sergey and Werd side step the obvious propaganda is where they declare the "narrator" of the propaganda film to have been shoddy and at fault for reporting it as "cement".

This causes the mind to skip over the fact that the propaganda describes it as "cement", and to negate the fact that walls are not thickly layered with a layer of asbestos on the surface, nor constructed fully of them, nor does this wall resemble such (i.e. we can see it isn't and the notion it is is absurd.)

Rather than drop the claim, they attempt to drop the propaganda film and replace it with a new propaganda.

All holocaust "controversies" are the same like this- the original lie gets busted, and it gets covered with a new lie that is even more silly.

That is why the narrative gets more and more outrageous as time goes by.

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Re: Now we know why Jews made handprints in gas chamber walls...

Postby borjastick » 1 day 13 hours ago (Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:48 am)

The charade that the official holocaust story pretends is the truth has been thoroughly busted and continues to be so. People gouging out solid concrete with their bare hands leaving scratches and the like, while trying to escape fantasy gas chambers is so dumb that it should be laughed out of court without delay. Those promoting this shite should be ashamed of themselves for they are guilty of disruption, brainwashing and lies. They seek to subvert normal people and force feed them the largest scam in human history, apart from perhaps the claims of the Exodus and Ashkenazis having anything whatsoever to do with genuine jews of the middle east.

When these lies were told and written into official history they had no idea that a thing called the internet plus DNA and massive advances in science and forensics would catch them out so convincingly.

My advice to them would be to re-engineer their holocaust based on facts and evidence, fess up to their lies and accept their fate as liars and manipulators of the public. Tell the truth boys because you cannot possibly continue with such lies.
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Re: Now we know why Jews made handprints in gas chamber walls...

Postby Werd » 1 day 10 hours ago (Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:47 am)

That will not happen, borjastick. The holocaust lobby will always double down on stupid instead of discarding it.

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Re: Now we know why Jews made handprints in gas chamber walls...

Postby JLAD Prove Me Wrong » 1 day 5 hours ago (Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:16 pm)

borjastick wrote:My advice to them would be to re-engineer their holocaust based on facts and evidence, fess up to their lies and accept their fate as liars and manipulators of the public. Tell the truth boys because you cannot possibly continue with such lies.


Revisionists have already won the fact battle.

It's only a matter of getting our voices heard, which is difficult. The media recycles the same holo-rubbish for the media-lemmings to consume.
If your beliefs cannot stand up to your own sincere scrutiny and skeptical evaluation, they are not worth having.

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Re: Now we know why Jews made handprints in gas chamber walls...

Postby Hektor » 41 minutes 49 seconds ago (Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:10 pm)

borjastick wrote:The charade that the official holocaust story pretends is the truth has been thoroughly busted and continues to be so. People gouging out solid concrete with their bare hands leaving scratches and the like, while trying to escape fantasy gas chambers is so dumb that it should be laughed out of court without delay. Those promoting this shite should be ashamed of themselves for they are guilty of disruption, brainwashing and lies. They seek to subvert normal people and force feed them the largest scam in human history, apart from perhaps the claims of the Exodus and Ashkenazis having anything whatsoever to do with genuine jews of the middle east......

The Auschwitz Museum now denies that those were scratches made by 'gassing victims':
https://twitter.com/AuschwitzMuseum/sta ... 6122992641

Instead they say it's vandalism by the visitors. That parts ridiculousness has been noticed after Revisionists pushed them.

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Re: Now we know why Jews made handprints in gas chamber walls...

Postby stinky » 3 minutes 11 seconds ago (Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:48 pm)

Wow, great find Hektor.

These people are forever chopping & changing to smooth over the ridiculous narrative


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