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Based upon your own comments in this thread you have been asked to support your position by giving examples of false statements from "deliberate, calculated liars" and examples of false statements which were not from "deliberate, calculated liars".
You know how it works in real debate here; if someone is challenged on their claims they are then obliged to respond.
Please enhance this discussion and support your position by doing so.
I also believe that there might be quite a few Jews that do actually believe that the holocaust really did happen like all the non Jews believe. Those Jews have a even bigger connection to this lie then anybody. The holocaust like what Dr. Nicholas Kollerstrom said in his book "Breaking the Spell" it's the Jews new religion it's the main thing keeping them all together.
Morris Venezia: Of course I was every day over there.
Carol Stulberg: Can you describe to us what it looked like?
Morris Venezia: It’s nothing to describe
"[Jewish psychologist Jules] Nydes argues that such individuals [representing the "paranoid masochistic character"] tend to see themselves and groups within which they identify as victims who are being persecuted. This sense of persecution derives partly from unconscious feelings of guilt. The paranoid masochistic person engages in aggression against others because he or she expects to be attacked. His aggression, which is accompanied by feelings of self-righteousness, is rarely satisfying. Indeed, he can often achieve gratification only when he is punished, and the punishment is interpreted as confirming his preconceived sense of persecution ... The typology is suggestive. [Jewish psychoanalyst] Theodore Reik, who was Nyde's teacher, suggested that a 'paranoid masochistic' personality structure is modal among Jews."
- Stanley Rothman and S. Robert Lichter, 'Roots of Radicalism. Jews, Christians, and the New Left.' Oxford University Press, New York, Oxford, 1982, p. 133
"That such rumors should be spreading in the world doesn't surprise me, given the huge migratory movement of Jews. We both know that the Jews who are put to forced labor have a higher mortality rate..."
- Letter to Heinrich Mueller: https://books.google.com/books?id=bGYYA ... 22&f=false)
NYT article discusses how rumors form and proliferate
Anatomy of a Rumor: It Flies on Fear
By DANIEL GOLEMAN
Published: June 4, 1991
The results suggest rumors are a kind of opportunistic information virus, thriving because of their ability to create the very anxieties that make them spread, and to mutate to fit new situations. Some rumors have survived for centuries, simply changing their targets as they traveled around the globe.
The new research highlights the role of anxiety in giving life to rumors. For instance, people are much more likely to pass on a rumor that is about something they are already anxious about, studies have found. Repeating the rumor serves to reassure people that they understand something that troubles and perplexes them, psychologists say.
"A rumor is a kind of hypothesis, a speculation that helps people make sense of a chaotic reality or gives them a small sense of control in a threatening world." said Dr. Ralph Rosnow, a psychologist at Temple University who wrote an article reviewing findings on rumors in the current issue of The American Psychologist.
In general, researchers are finding that rumors perpetuate themselves by creating anxiety in the hearer: people who are most distressed by something are more likely to transmit rumors on the topic. For example, in a study of 229 college students, the students most readily passed on the rumors about AIDS that they found most personally relevant and upsetting.
"The more frightened people were by a rumor, the more likely they were to repeat it," said Dr. Kimmel whose study will be published in The Journal of Applied Social Psychology.
The implicit messages of rumors give them their emotional power. Some of the most compelling rumors revolve around basic fears, such as of disease or death. Thus the rumor that Elvis Presley or John F. Kennedy is alive and well has as its subtext the message that it is possible to defeat death.
-- Herbert Spencer
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