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Pithy Parallels Between Climate Change and the Holocaust

Postby borjastick » 1 year 1 month ago (Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:10 am)

Pithy Parallels Between Climate Change and the Holocaust

Not just pithy but clever and difficult for the believers to argue against.

Very articulate and always worth listening to James Delingpole, a British journalist, also writes for Breitbart. He positively rages against the climate change hoax. In this particular piece he shows an article by Tony Heller listing his top five reasons why Climate Change is total bull. So why am I showing this here? Because I have always thought the parallels between the two cases are so strong and if you look at the climate change reasons shown below and then swap climate change for holocaust the case is made. Man made Climate Change and the holocaust are the new religions of the age.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/0 ... _98UQ8kF0g


Climate alarmism is just a modern version of man’s primal superstitions about cataclysmic natural events. But these fears are baseless for there is no legitimate evidence to show that “extreme weather is increasing or sea level rise is accelerating.”

Climate alarmism is a form of Groupthink — or, as Heller puts it, the Emperor’s New Clothes. This Groupthink requires ignoring the evidence and instead deferring to the opinions of a very small body of parti pris “experts”.

If the case for the “global warming” were as strong as these experts say, the debate would be over by now. Instead, all of their “apocalyptic predictions” have failed miserably. What reason do we have to believe them after all this time?

Climate alarmism is entirely dependent on graphs and computer models which rely on cherry-picked or corrupt data. Few if any of these models have come close to forecasting real world outcomes.

The proposed solutions to “climate change” are “unworkable, dangerous and useless.”


Now let's look at the same statements but adjusted slightly for the holocaust hoax.

The Holocaust myth is just a modern version of man’s primal superstitions about persecution of minorities. But these fears are baseless for there is no legitimate evidence to show that “the holocaust is the most documented event in human history.”

The Holocaust myth is a form of Groupthink — or, the Emperor’s New Clothes. This Groupthink requires ignoring the evidence and instead deferring to the opinions of a very small body of parti pris “experts”.

If the case for the “the Holocaust” were as strong as these experts say, the debate would be over by now. Instead, all of their “claims of genocide against the Jews” have failed miserably. What reason do we have to believe them after all this time?

The Holocaust is entirely dependent on unverified claims, dodgy witness statements and millions of 'survivors' who couldn't possibly have survived the Holocaust if it were true, and rely on cherry-picked or corrupt claims with no forensic support. Few if any of these Holocaust claims have come close to proving the claims of gas chambers and six million deaths.

The proposed solutions to “anti-semitism” are “unworkable, dangerous and useless.”
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'

'We don't need evidence, we have survivors' - israeli politician

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Re: Pithy Parallels Between Climate Change and the Holocaust

Postby Dresden » 1 year 1 month ago (Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:14 pm)

Another parallel is the accusations of "Climate Denial".
Maybe, just maybe, they believe what they are telling you about the 'holocaust', but maybe, just maybe, their contempt for your intelligence and your character is beyond anything you could ever have imagined. -- Bradley Smith

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Re: Pithy Parallels Between Climate Change and the Holocaust

Postby Lamprecht » 1 year 1 month ago (Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:58 pm)

Indeed. I have occasionally had debates on climate change, which I prefer to call "The Weather"
I don't know all that much about the topic, but those who debate this subject often rely on various fallacies, especially the claim of a "consensus" and appeals to authority (virtually every scientist agrees, so it must be true). This is not even correct. There's also a huge obsession with "peer reviewed studies" and anything that is not published and peer reviewed is immediately dismissed without even considering the arguments within it.

Also, CO2 is not even bad, it's no "pollutant" and I don't think we should be alarmed that it is increasing.

Read more:
http://iloveco2.com/about-co2/
https://www.functionalps.com/blog/2013/ ... pollutant/


What I think:


- The atmosphere is heating up, this is to be expected as the earth is in a "rising" temperature cycle as the last ice age only ended a few thousand years ago
- CO2 levels are being increased by human consumption
- CO2 levels have been decreasing for millions of years, and are in fact dwindling (this is not good)
- CO2 comprises less than 1% of atmospheric gasses
- "greenhouse gas effect" has been refuted by a few different independent academics
- "over 95% of climate scientists agree climate change is real" myth is a lie based off of a survey of a few hundred pro-climate change scientists. The accurate number is around 50-60% (which means, no consensus)

But here is the really important part, from your article:
The proposed solutions to “climate change” are “unworkable, dangerous and useless.”
Nobody likes pollution, and I support reducing it to as close to 0 as possible. But the climate alarmists have terrible "solutions" to the problems they claim exist. Their predictions always turn out to be nonsense as well. Whenever I talk to a climate change believer, it seems like I'm talking to a cult member.
"There is a principal which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principal is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer

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Re: Pithy Parallels Between Climate Change and the Holocaust

Postby Moderator » 1 year 1 month ago (Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:23 pm)

Just what I was afraid of, that we would end up debating the merits of 'global warming caused by increased CO2 emissions' rather than the point of the OP.

transparency: Your humble moderator does not accept the leftist claims that 'CO2 will destroy the planet in 12 years'.

BUT the thread, as intended by borjastick, should be about the similarities in the repression of debate and attacks upon those who reject the claims made of CO2 compared to the repression of debate and attacks upon those who reject the claims about the "holocaust" narrative.

I suppose it's difficult, but let's at least give it a shot.
Thanks, M1

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Re: Pithy Parallels Between Climate Change and the Holocaust

Postby borjastick » 1 year 1 month ago (Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:43 am)

Totally agree Mr Mod, my point was to show how the same arguments fit both religions and that as religions anyone who doesn't agree is persecuted as a heretic.

Just read the five points and my holocaust versions of same and the point is made chaps.
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'

'We don't need evidence, we have survivors' - israeli politician


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