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How To Respond to Heart Wrenching Photos?

Postby JLAD Prove Me Wrong » 4 months 2 weeks ago (Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:08 pm)

So I was debating the Holocaust, and someone brought up these photos.

Children of Bullenhuser Damm
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High altitude experiment
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Hypothermia/ cold expirements
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Seawater expirement
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Chemical sterilization experiment
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Ravensbrück medical experiments

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From what I understand, these photos basically are to tug on your heartstrings to make anyone who would question it look like a deranged and mentally insane fool. I understand the revisionist position is be, "Show us the actual documents." By no means am I saying that these photos accurately represent what happened in WWII. At the same time, a video/photo is basically a document. It 'documents' the past, and so asking for a document when photos are presented almost feels like the revisionist is rejecting what is in front of their face.

As revisionists, we must be willing to accept new evidence as it comes in, regardless of the source. Certainly the Industry is quite a brute of nature, but if we ignore their claims (like they do to us) we will get nowhere.

Certainly the Germans who 'documented everything' should have at least some documents on these IF they occured as alleged, but alas, we do not have them. That said, the photos remain.
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Re: How To Respond to Heart Wrenching Photos?

Postby Lamprecht » 4 months 2 weeks ago (Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:44 pm)

I would like to preface, that I do not know anything about these specific images.

- Where is the evidence that these people were part of some Nazi medical experiments? I can take a picture of someone in a hospital bed sick with a disease and say "this is a medical experiment". Many examples exist of "miscaptioned" photographs.

- The Nazis did some medical experiments, there is no question about this. All sides in World War II did these sorts of things. Check out:
Re: Legitimate Nazi Atrocities
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8170&start=120#p91245
(also see my post above it)

- The Nazis allegedly took photographs of inhumane medical experiments that violated human rights? But they did not take photographs of Jews being killed in gas chambers? Hmmm, I wonder why

- In many of these camps, there were prisoners that were prosecuted for committing horrible crimes. If someone rapes and murders multiple young women, is it really wrong to do medical experiments on them to further our knowledge of human anatomy? This was in the 1930's, remember. Might as well get something useful out of these people before putting them to death.

- It seems a bit ridiculous to think the Nazis, who allegedly had a policy to exterminate all Jews, would do some sadistic and inhumane medical experiments on some innocent people and then let them live on to tell the tale.

- Revisionists do not say "The nazis did nothing wrong, ever" -- that is simply absurd. It is about what happened during the "Holocaust" where allegedly 6 million jews were killed, with gas chambers and bullets and deliberate starvation/overworking. Sometimes, when debating the Holocaust, people seem to want to change it to a debate on "Were the Nazis perfect angels?" "Were the Nazis hateful bigots?" you can point out the fact that it is not contradictory to believe that National Socialism is bad, Hitler was evil, yet also that they did not murder Jews in gas chambers.


The following graphics are instructive, as some people think that revisionists deny that Jews suffered at all during WWII, which is obviously not the case:

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Some interesting articles:

Medical Experimentation at Dachau
https://codoh.com/library/document/6354/?lang=en

Dr. Mengele's "Medical Experiments" on Twins in the Birkenau Gypsy Camp
https://codoh.com/library/document/3223/?lang=en
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Re: How To Respond to Heart Wrenching Photos?

Postby Lamprecht » 4 months 2 weeks ago (Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:48 pm)

Certainly the Germans who 'documented everything' should have at least some documents on these IF they occured as alleged, but alas, we do not have them. That said, the photos remain.


I am aware of a document claiming to confirm the "Nazis sterilized jews with x-rays" allegation. See my discussion on it:

Re: NO-205 document / Brack to Himmler June 23, 1942 / as posted by onetruth
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10396&start=30#p90796

Also see:

'Meticulously kept medical experiment records'
viewtopic.php?t=5210
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Re: How To Respond to Heart Wrenching Photos?

Postby borjastick » 4 months 2 weeks ago (Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:51 am)

I don't really understand the argument. The first pictures of children is about what? What is claimed with this picture?

Some experiments were done about hypothermia which to this day we embrace the results.

The one with the man in the bed having been injected is probably from the far east. The next pic of a woman in a hospital bed is what, a picture of a woman in a bed.

The leg shots are fake.

These pics do not tug at my heart strings and don't say anything to the holocaust.
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Re: How To Respond to Heart Wrenching Photos?

Postby ikig » 4 months 1 week ago (Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:29 pm)

Programs on TV, movies etc... will not mention is that the emaciated appearance of camp inmates comes from typhus. Typhus was rampant during WWII in Europe. Typhus was a non stop problem. Typhus causes non stop vomiting and diarhea, thus the emaciated appearance. Contrary to the stories of the SS starving them. Trains delivering supplies to the camps including red cross was bombed and destroyed by allied air strikes.

So called experiments I am not able to comment on that.

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Re: How To Respond to Heart Wrenching Photos?

Postby TimeTraveler » 4 months 1 week ago (Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:02 pm)

From my knowledge almost every country back then did these types of medical experiments. But it seems like most people don't know that. But the mainstream historians just want people to think the Third Reich was the only country to do these. The Soviets did them, United States did them, England did them Etc. Not just Germany.

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Re: How To Respond to Heart Wrenching Photos?

Postby Rogal Dorn » 4 months 1 week ago (Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:42 am)

borjastick wrote:The leg shots are fake.

How do you know they are fake?

They could be from some real life accident a woman had and who received stitches as a result, leaving a scar. Plenty of people injure their legs.

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Re: How To Respond to Heart Wrenching Photos?

Postby borjastick » 4 months 1 week ago (Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:25 am)

Rogal Dorn wrote:
borjastick wrote:The leg shots are fake.

How do you know they are fake?

They could be from some real life accident a woman had and who received stitches as a result, leaving a scar. Plenty of people injure their legs.


Yes quite possibly but to me they look like make-up and bad fake leg scars designed to 'show' how things were done so terribly to prisoners.
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