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was there an important Nazi figure who sent a letter to order concentration camps not to kill Jews

Postby bearstevenlee » 7 months 10 hours ago (Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:26 pm)

Was there an important Nazi figure who sent a letter to order concentration camps not to kill Jews. I heard about it from a radio show. Can anyone remember the guy's name and the details of the letter? It's a proof that Nazi did not have a central order to kill Jews at the concentration camps. (Also, you have to emphasize that Jews have to prove genocide was ordered. Proving non-existence fallacy and burden of proof fallacy.) Rogue Nazi officers voluntarily killed Jews, which happened but not as much.

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Re: was there an important Nazi figure who sent a letter to order concentration camps not to kill Jews

Postby Hannover » 7 months 8 hours ago (Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:21 pm)

There was no such "important nazi who sent a letter to order concentration camps not to kill Jews".
What you "heard" was a typical lie deceptively meant to imply that Jews were being murdered in the first place.

In fact Himmer specifically ordered the good care of camp inmates, the actual order exists.

You also said:
Rogue Nazi officers voluntarily killed Jews, which happened but not as much.

Let's remember than any such "rogue officers", who were extremely few, were dealt with severely. Recall Konrad Morgen, an SS investigator, who had no qualms about executing any Germans who were involved in any acts of cruelty, violence against inmates.

Let's also remember that Allied treatment of those in their camps was much worse. Recall the horrific Soviet gulags and the US treatment of German POWs.

Eisenhower Death Camps
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starving Germans held in outdoor camps

see:
In "Eisenhower’s Death Camps": Part I, A U.S. Prison Guard's Story, by Martin Brech
https://codoh.com/library/document/2281/?lang=en
Other Losses, book review, by Arthur S. Ward
https://codoh.com/library/document/2293/?lang=en

Welcome, Hannover

No alleged human remains of millions in allegedly known locations to see, no 'holocaust'.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: was there an important Nazi figure who sent a letter to order concentration camps not to kill Jews

Postby bearstevenlee » 7 months 8 hours ago (Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:36 pm)

"Konrad Morgen, an SS investigator, who had no qualms about executing any Germans who were involved in any acts of cruelty, violence against inmates"

"In fact Himmer specifically ordered the good care of camp inmates, the actual order exists."

These are good proofs that Nazi didn't order genocide to concentration camps, although Jews have to prove their claims for their wish (cause they want the worst reputation for their enemy Nazi) by proving non-existence fallacy and burden of proof fallacy.

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Re: was there an important Nazi figure who sent a letter to order concentration camps not to kill Jews

Postby bearstevenlee » 7 months 7 hours ago (Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:21 pm)

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/com ... h=253de2b8

"Heinrich Himmler, chief commandant of all detention facilities, specifically ordered the good care of camp inmates for Nazi's Concentration Camps. Genocide of Jews is a Jewish conspiracy." Heinrich Himmler seems to convince people better.

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Re: was there an important Nazi figure who sent a letter to order concentration camps not to kill Jews

Postby Lamprecht » 7 months 4 hours ago (Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:36 pm)

bearstevenlee wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/b3hvtp/heinrich_himmler_chief_commandant_of_all/?st=jthqef0q&sh=253de2b8

"Heinrich Himmler, chief commandant of all detention facilities, specifically ordered the good care of camp inmates for Nazi's Concentration Camps. Genocide of Jews is a Jewish conspiracy." Heinrich Himmler seems to convince people better.


That post may get removed from Reddit, I know in at least the history sub-reddit, all "Holocaust Denial" posts are banned.

I linked to that Himmler order in your other thread: viewtopic.php?p=10104#p10104

A "Jewish conspiracy" you call it, but many gentiles were also involved.

May I suggest:

Video Documentary !! 'The Holocaust - Made in Russia' / by Carlos Porter !!
viewtopic.php?t=11557

The Himmler order:

The head of the SS camp administration office sent a directive dated Dec. 28, 1942, to Auschwitz and the other concentration camps. It sharply criticized the high death rate of inmates due to disease, and ordered that:
camp physicians must use all means at their disposal to significantly reduce the death rate in the various camps.
Furthermore, it ordered:
The camp doctors must supervise more often than in the past the nutrition of the prisoners and, in cooperation with the administration, submit improvement recommendations to the camp commandants . . . The camp doctors are to see to it that the working conditions at the various labor places are improved as much as possible.
Finally, the directive stressed that:
the Reichsfhrer SS [Heinrich Himmler] has ordered that the death rate absolutely must be reduced.
Nuremberg document PS-2171, Annex 2. NC&A red series, Vol. 4, pp. 833-834



Also check out:

istheholocaustreal.com exposed -- "Why Didn't Any Nazi Deny" and the scope of the "conspiracy"
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12287

Excerpt:
Some points:

- Dr. Horst Pelckmann, defense counsel for the SS at Nuremberg, exposed the fact that over 97% of the SS men who mentioned "The Jewish Problem" denied that it was to be solved by extermination. On 21 August 1946 (IMT Proceedings, vol. 21, p. 368):
On the question of whether the SS members recognized the destruction of Jewry as an aim of the leaders, 1,593 out of 1,637 affidavits which mention this problem state that the Jewish problem was not to be solved by killing or the so-called "final solution," and that they had no knowledge of these intentions of the leaders. They point out that the SS members were forbidden to undertake individual acts against Jews. As evidence, numerous members refer to the fact that many death or other severe sentences were passed because of crimes against Jewish persons or Jewish property.
From: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/08-21-46.asp

- On July 1945, the Jewish Telegraphic Agency reported that: "A report from the place where major German war criminals are now confined discloses that all of them have denied that the Nazis had any plans to exterminate the Jews of Europe." https://archive.is/NJgOn
"There is a principal which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principal is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer

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Re: was there an important Nazi figure who sent a letter to order concentration camps not to kill Jews

Postby bearstevenlee » 6 months 4 weeks ago (Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:58 am)

No, it's a conspiracy subreddit, so it's fine. That's like my 2nd post in that subreddit in that topic. Some people don't like it, but I am not sensitive about them whining. I got banned in couple other subreddits though including history subreddit which refuses open debate (not a good attitude academically). Conspiracy subreddit is a good place to talk about Jewish conspiracy because 4000 people are online all the time. Those people like conspiracy stuffs whether they agree with Holocaust being Jewish "conspiracy" or not.

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Re: was there an important Nazi figure who sent a letter to order concentration camps not to kill Jews

Postby bearstevenlee » 6 months 4 weeks ago (Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:47 am)

Final Solution came out in Spring 1941. The Himmler order was from Dec. 28, 1942. That sufficiently debunks the claim "Nazi only wanted deportation of Jews at the start but decided to kill the Jews after". Aside from how it is the Jews that have to prove their claims; their claim doesn't have to be disproven (proving non-existence fallacy, burden of proof fallacy).


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